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Offline GreeN

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« on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 10:28:18 »
You should hand this picture into Ghost Hunters

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 10:30:17 »
I think it's more a cream color that white, so I would put it in the IBM camp.  The perception of whiteness comes from the modifier keys being cream-colored as well instead of the grey usually found on beige 'boards. Either way, I like it.  I wish there was a 104 version, preferably with letters, but Otaku is cool, too.
 
Notice, too, that it has a flat Windows key.


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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 10:41:51 »
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You mean the meta key.
 
I said that already.

Whatever.  I was distracted by the pictures, so I didn't pay attention to a damn thing you said.  It's obvious you worked in marketing.  
 
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 12:50:27 »
This
Quote from: webwit;162932
The no-Windows key is a winner. I only wish it didn't have the caps and scroll printing.


Once those labels are gone, the LEDs need to go, too. They're such a relic. Just skip the indecisive move of keeping them (at the top right due to what, tradition?)

But then the FILCO logo will have to go, next. But that won't happen will it.

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 13:02:58 »
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This
 
 
Once those labels are gone, the LEDs need to go, too. They're such a relic. Just skip the indecisive move of keeping them (at the top right due to what, tradition?)
 
But then the FILCO logo will have to go, next. But that won't happen will it.

Technology is good enough now that they should just incorporate the LED in the key, anyway, thus the printing would be non-existant by default.  The Filco logo on the Tenkeyless is in the front, so it would just be covered up by the wristrest (if you use one) anyway.  I can certainly see the LED legends missing, but I'm not so sure about the Filco logo.  I'm not sure I'd want to be using a generic keyboard.


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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 13:04:23 »
Amazing looking board. I promised I would hold out for the Miniguru though :( I need more computers in my place so I can buy this board and use it

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 15:05:00 »
Quote from: ripster;162933
blatent trolling


Did you mean: blatant ?

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I need more computers in my place so I can buy this board and use it


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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 17:18:49 »
Now he's calling me names. *snif*
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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 18:01:14 »
What exactly does "ripster" mean? It's not in my dictionary.

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 19:16:57 »
The LEDs are white? I hope they used the same brightness as on the MX Brown boards, I could use that thing as floodlight.
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 19:42:30 »
Unless they're ancient or specifically designed, typical white LEDs tend to be almost as bright as blue LEDs.

Also, I assume the keys are coated?

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 19:43:15 »
yeah but does it come in white?
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 19:56:30 »
It's the same LED scheme that you'd see in the Black FILCOs. You can see the LEDs in the pictures, and their color is stated in the specifications.

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 19:59:32 »
meta != windows key
meta = alt key

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 20:15:57 »
this will be a great addition to my iMac

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 20:44:48 »
Maclover might have one of the white iMacs that came out before the new aluminum ones :P

I'm getting a white one with brown switches! I don't know what it is with the brown switches that have made me coming back to them. My preferences keep changing...
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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 20:58:35 »
Quote from: ripster;163059
I thought this Sun diamond thingamabob maps to Apple Command?

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It does on the HHKB too. 2.  Whatever.

Sun keyboards have ctrl alt and the diamond key and it's usually put as the windows key but that doesn't mean meta = windows key.  Doesn't really matter anyway.


Is there going to be a regular version of the all-white keyboard?  Not a huge fan of the ones without the numpad tbh.
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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 10 March 2010, 21:42:18 »
Quote from: ripster;163041
I had this as a login name before it became cool.

From Urban Dictionary


Had it since I had a nickname of Rip in college.  Now I rarely get to use it.  Stupid posers.

I don't hear that nickname too often.  I have a relative who uses that name.  It's a nickname but much better known than his real name.  In his case the nickname is sort of inherited, his father had it as well, etc, going back generations.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 06:23:39 »
hmm im going blues with this one..
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 08:04:13 »
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Hard to keep up in fashion stuff when you wear sweatpants half the day.

It sounds like you spend most of your time at the strip club.


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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 13:54:12 »
OK, so any actually buy one?

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:03:05 »
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OK, so any actually buy one?

I might have jumped on board for a 104-key with legends, but I'm not too interested in these.


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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:15:08 »
This is ****ing beautiful, exactly the keyboard I've been fantasizing for ****ing ever. I mean ****, much propers to majestouch... This keyboard has class.

I will be breaking from my "filco is just too darn expensive" stance on monday.
off-White, tenkeyless, blank, with sweet sweet brown cherries. Or-****ing-gasmic.

Somebody tell mejestouch to order the next shipment (if there ever is a next) equipped with NKRO, red cherries, green indicator lights, and barely visible lettering on the keys.

I'll be leaving it on a sunny windowsill whenever I can. This **** is gonna look boss after about 5 years. THANKS ELITE. YOU NOW HAVE THE MOST WICKED KEYBOARD ON THE MARKET. <3
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:22:53 »
Rock-a-bye baby, on the tree top.  When the wind blows, the cradle will rock...
 
 
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:30:46 »
Quote from: itlnstln;163211
I might have jumped on board for a 104-key with legends, but I'm not too interested in these.


If it had printed characters I'd be 100% in, I'm on the fence though. Thinking about buy it and dropping on some double shots, but seems like a shame to mess with a brand new board.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:45:59 »
I like the Tenkeyless, but I hate that it doesn't have a virtual numpad *. I like blank keys, but I use my keyboards mainly at work where I have to type off-center sometimes (people looking over my shoulder), and it's hard when there are no legends to look at if you aren't squared up to the keyboard.
 
*Niether does the HHKB, but the much more optimized layout makes the sacrifice worth it.


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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 14:57:52 »
virtual numpad would be great
but whatev I can just get a keypad if needed

still don't understand why filco uses boring abs keycaps. Let's get some fancy plastic up in this piece.
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 15:18:11 »
Does somebody know prices for different sorts of plastic? Would it actually cost more than a few cents per board to make good keycaps?
Typing on blues.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 15:32:27 »
IMHO it would be worth it. the POM/PBT keycaps on my cherry boards are fabulous.

Then again, IBM Model M uses ABS, right? And those caps also feel great (less slippery than the cherry caps)

So I really don't know what to believe :( I guess good caps are good, regardless of material.
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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 15:37:03 »
The Topre keys are PBT, right?  Whatever the case, they feel pretty nice, too.


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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 16:06:27 »
Quote from: ripster;163261
My Topre spacebar is getting shiny. I'm not kidding.


Mine was fine until you mentioned that! :(

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 16:12:13 »
It happens.  I think it might be less noticable on white keyboards, but whatever.  As long as it happens over time and not in a week like some other brand, I'm OK.


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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 16:34:56 »
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meta != windows key
meta = alt key

Bwuh?

All my keyboards map thus
Win ALT = MacOS option
Win Meta = MacOS Command

It's invariable, but even my Logitecccch boards don't get it right.
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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 17:16:54 »
Keyboard at sunset:



This is my G80-2100 in it's natural environment: Only source of light is an energy saving lamp behind the monitor, illuminating the white wall (that's why the pic is grainy and colors are off). The surface texture of most of the doubleshot keys is completely worn off. The photo doesn't really do them justice: They're so shiny I could use them to check my makeup. And I ****ing love these keys! That hard, thick, worn plastic looks and feels like polished ivory. I have several sets of unused doubleshots as well, but nothing looks and feels as good as those old ones.

Modern Cherry or Filco keys most likely would have broken or look like garbage after 15 years of heavy use.
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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 11 March 2010, 23:32:58 »
Quote from: salcan;163203
OK, so any actually buy one?


Totally. Ever since the first day I read about Filco's, I knew if a white one w/ blank keys was ever released, I'd have to jump on it.  Removing the window's bump was an added bonus for me, and does anybody know anything about these "silver/gold" contacts?  

I'm a little upset I missed the HHKB case, I hope they restock soon, and often.

Majestouch, awesome job.

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 13:36:23 »
So who has their White Otaku from Elite?  I might have to pull the trigger on this.

I'm curious about the key cap thickness/material in comparison to the key caps on the Black otaku filcos.

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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 13:42:10 »
Quote from: didjamatic;164184
So who has their White Otaku from Elite?  I might have to pull the trigger on this.

I'm curious about the key cap thickness/material in comparison to the key caps on the Black otaku filcos.

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 13:47:10 »
Did you go Blue or Brown?
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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 13:49:14 »
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Did you go Blue or Brown?

He said he bought the white one, duh.
 
If anything, the shininess would probably be less obvious on the white vs. the black.


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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 16:31:03 »
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Nobody gonna comment that the white LEDs look blue in the pic?


They had to mess with color balance of the picture to make up for plastic yellowing. ;P
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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 17:09:35 »
ugh will order mines next month...
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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 15 March 2010, 22:59:02 »
Quote from: didjamatic;164186
Did you go Blue or Brown?


Ah. I went Brown.
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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 16 March 2010, 00:01:34 »
Same here. :)
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 10:09:22 »
On the truck for delivery today...  :)
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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 11:21:25 »
Ordering one this Saturday, can't wait. White tenkeyless w/browns = dreamier than johnny mathis
fsking gorgeous keyboard.

the only possible improvement imo would be red switches.
maybe I'll do another brown/black stem swap and make it happen :)
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« Reply #45 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 11:38:15 »
Typing on White Otaku Cherry Brown board...  I LIKE!!!

FYI - The LED's are blue, not clear.
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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 11:51:35 »
Quote from: didjamatic;165140
Typing on White Otaku Cherry Brown board...  I LIKE!!!


Wow good for you.  I will am waiting for mine...
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 12:10:31 »
Quote from: didjamatic;165140


FYI - The LED's are blue, not clear.


isnt it the blue cherry board that has the white leds?
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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 12:30:29 »
Quote from: kriminal;165148
isnt it the blue cherry board that has the white leds?


I want to say the blue cherry version has green LEDs. They look white though in some of the pictures.

My blue cherry white otaku will also arrive today, I'll let you guys know what I think. This will be my first Filco, first cherry, and first true mechanical keyboard.

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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 18 March 2010, 15:23:38 »
Yes, the LED is a dimmer blue in my Brown Cherry model.  I don't have one here to verify but I looked at it and my retinas are intact so this one is definitely less dim than the 10M candlepower deathstar canons in past models.

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