In Australia, we don't have as much large scale computer recycling as in US, most sellers are people who have found stuff at estate sales garage sales etc. Most are willing to take a cap. I don't ask to take a cap in some cases in fear that it may attract attention to the item and more people will bid on it. This happened with a Wang 724 with Pink Alps, I asked if the keyboard was for sale seperate from the 286 it was sold with (more of an 8088 guy myself) and if he could pull a cap, and then the guy picked up on that an put WANG 724 in all caps in the title. And guess what, a day later, bids started to flow in. I consider myself an oppertunist , taking advantage of keyboards that have been wrongly described and listed incorrectly, but not removing a cap in fear that it will break, pfff. There has only been one time when I broke a keycap. I had a Unisys Metal Back keyboard with awesome doubleshots. I was cleaning and the ALT key was stuck hard in place so I had to prise it out and it snapped in half. I ended up junking the board as I kept breaking the stepped caps. The caps were so brittle because the keyboard was lying in a shed where it was really hot during the day and really cold at night for about 20 years so what could I expect. I only payed $5 for it anyways. Gotta take a breath and stop ranting.