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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #150 on: Sun, 03 February 2013, 00:47:58 »
Finally got around to updating the typewriter topic (needs a new title though I can't think of a better one) with precarious' and guilleguillaume's info

http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Typewriters

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #151 on: Fri, 08 February 2013, 05:56:39 »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-815-Electric-Portable-Typewriter-/221184035053

an interesting model with some windowed keycaps in the mix

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 19:58:29 »
I already posted this on DT but I think some guys will like those sets even if they are not cheap:

BSP Europe Dye Sub



Desko Dye Sub



By the way I managed to get a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007L with ES layout that I still have to receive . The deal with that CompacTA 400 didn't go trough because the seller didn't respond anymore after sharing some emails.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #153 on: Tue, 19 February 2013, 04:43:10 »
Quoting my posts in Deskthority you can see how I'm talking about another source of Dye Sub keycaps.

Quote from: guilleguillaume
I got a nice surprise today with a Triumph Adler CompacTA 600 that also has MY Linear switches.

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It has Dye Sub keycaps and AWESOME MY linear switches that feel fantastic, almost as vintage MX Black.

I didn't need to open any switch because there is a key that uses a switch as stabiliser with a different Stem so it doesn't activate the switch. I can see how it's made and will take pictures of it so everyone can see innards of the switch.

They don't use any spring and instead use some kind of metal leaf in the bottom left of the switch. They feel fantastic and nothing to do with the ones that 7007L has. This typewriter was in better condition and must be because of that that the switches feel way better.

Will post the pictures once I've cleaned all the keys.

You can see pictures here: Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007L (ES layout)

Will add more pictures of both typewriters once I've cleaned all the keycaps.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #156 on: Thu, 21 February 2013, 12:42:45 »
Yes another nice one, I have a set just like it though my shift lock was windowed. I would definitely try to get caps only on that one as it will have M7 switches for sure. Paying to have the whole unit shipped is mostly a huge waste of money.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #157 on: Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:01:31 »
Yes another nice one, I have a set just like it though my shift lock was windowed. I would definitely try to get caps only on that one as it will have M7 switches for sure. Paying to have the whole unit shipped is mostly a huge waste of money.

asked him about shipping the caps / keyboard section only and he said "What would be a more affordable shipping option? I think this will weigh about 30 lbs ready to ship. I don't want to take it apart."

so who knows keep trying maybe

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 21 February 2013, 13:35:21 »
By the way I just made a compilation of pictures of typewriters that have or should have Dye Sub Chery MX compatible keycaps.

Will update them tomorrow so we can play the guess game and see if they really look like Dye Sub.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #159 on: Fri, 22 February 2013, 07:51:25 »
By the way I just made a compilation of pictures of typewriters that have or should have Dye Sub Chery MX compatible keycaps.

Will update them tomorrow so we can play the guess game and see if they really look like Dye Sub.

Looking forward to that!

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #160 on: Fri, 22 February 2013, 08:53:08 »
Some pictures of the models that have Dye Sub or double-shot keycaps. There are some missing that I didn't save on the computer and all the pictures have been taken from Ebay, Deskthority and Geekhack.

Triumph Adler Gabriele Cyclo






Triumph Adler CompacTA 600 DS




Triumph Adler CompacTA 400 DS



Triumph Adler CompacTA SE 410 & SE 410 L





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TA Royal satellite III



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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #161 on: Fri, 22 February 2013, 09:41:30 »
Are the legends on the front of the keycaps pad printed or are those dyesubbed as well?
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #162 on: Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:08:11 »
On dyesubs all is dyesub. Front print on doubleshots ones (Alpha, Beta, maybe others?) are pad print of course.
Nice mini guide guilleguillaume. I am sure some will find that really helpful.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #163 on: Fri, 22 February 2013, 12:38:28 »
Thanks for the compilation, guilleguillaume, I'll add all that information to my list once I am home.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #164 on: Wed, 01 May 2013, 21:45:51 »
Just ordered this Royal Alpha 110 from ebay:

20645-0

Can anyone confirm if the caps on the 110 are mx compatible?  I know I've seen a doubleshot version of that "code" key before, not sure where, probably in classifieds, and I was thinking the green on gray caps are dyesubs...
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:26:09 »
Yes they are Cherry doubleshots. I think this model has the white linear MX switch too.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #166 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:35:51 »
Yes they are Cherry doubleshots. I think this model has the white linear MX switch too.

Doubleshots for the alphas, too?  And maybe some mx switches?  Nice.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #167 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:36:47 »
So this is where the code key comes from...

I bought the last one to pop in the classifieds, but it was blue :)




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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #168 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:02:18 »
Right they are all doubleshots. I have almost identical set, but sadly my CODE key is 1x1.25 so it is essentially useless, but the XXX key makes up for it a little :))

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #169 on: Sat, 04 May 2013, 15:48:52 »
So, the typewriter arrived today just as I was heading out the door, not enough time for photos, but I am able to confrim the keycaps are cherry compatible - dye-subs for the gray keys, doubleshots for the bright green.  Switches are pre-mx linears of some kind, probably m7's.  I don't like them - they are heavier than mx blacks with a weird progressive force curve - longer travel than mx, gets heavier as you press down on them.  All in all not bad though, that code key is pretty sweet.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #170 on: Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:48:11 »
Don't forget to check the carriage return mechanism inside for a gen1 MX white.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #171 on: Sun, 05 May 2013, 19:45:42 »
Don't forget to check the carriage return mechanism inside for a gen1 MX white.

Curiously enough, my carriage return uses an MX black:


And the actual typewriter switches - Cherry, but what the heck are these?
21083-1
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And the keycaps - the doubleshot "Code" key on my Dolch:
21087-3

One of the dye-subs and the other doubleshot:
21089-4
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #172 on: Sun, 05 May 2013, 21:07:30 »
Very nice pictures!

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« Reply #173 on: Sun, 05 May 2013, 21:09:44 »
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #174 on: Sun, 05 May 2013, 23:50:49 »
Man, that Cyan backspace and those green caps are stunning.  I'd love to have a modifier pack of those coupled with white.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #175 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 01:16:59 »
And the actual typewriter switches - Cherry, but what the heck are these?
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They look like the vintage MY found on many typewriters.

Excellent keycaps! I've always liked the typewriter keycaps, and this is my favourite of the lot (dyesub green!) even the doubleshots are nice. I had a few doubleshots in the same colourway with my typewriter keycaps. Excellent pictures, too.

The fulltouch "LOCK" key is great, but it's a shame both shift's are the same size.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #176 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 07:01:45 »
Having 2x 2.25 shifts is not a bad thing if you wanted a nice set for Leopold FC660...
Yes those are old MY switch, like revision 2, quite a bit better than the rev3 MY most people rightly despise.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #177 on: Tue, 07 May 2013, 23:07:48 »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adler-Royal-Meteor-II-Typewriter-Portable-Electric-Nice-Vintage-/161022649685?pt=BI_Typewriters_Word_Processors&hash=item257db2a555

No bids yet, opening bid is $27.75 + $18.75 shipping

I'm pretty sure these caps are cherry compatible - I can see part of the switches in one of the photos (third picture with the flash, look at the outline of the z+x+c keys), and it looks to be the same Cherry MY switches as the Royal Alpha typewriter I just bought.  Price is more than I'd be willing to pay (as I'm not a huge fan of this colorway), but that red on light gray/beige code key is pretty cool looking.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 07 May 2013, 23:55:42 »
I sort-of want to start a typewriter "code" key collection.
Hopefully I'll find some time to update the list.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #179 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:59:58 »
Yes that one has brown and redorange dyesub on creamy grey. I have a set just like them, though my shift lock key is windowed, from a different model.

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« Reply #180 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:43:51 »
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« Reply #181 on: Thu, 09 May 2013, 00:37:34 »
The keys don't look like Cherry compatible to me because of the rounded edges.

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« Reply #182 on: Thu, 09 May 2013, 00:47:31 »
The keys don't look like Cherry compatible to me because of the rounded edges.

Yeah, I think you are right.  Nevermind then, nothing to see here...
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #183 on: Thu, 09 May 2013, 09:22:44 »
Made in Japan models, never Cherry. Only those marked made in W. Germany can be Cherry.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #184 on: Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:33:05 »
Here's another :

Hermes H 16
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It's the same typewriter as Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 L .
Mine has double-shot 'erase backwards'-key and a white carriage-return switch ..

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« Reply #185 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:24:51 »
Decent deal on a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 typewriter (vintage PBT dye subs) if you are in the UK (free next day shipping for UK buyers, according to the listing, at least):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Gabriele-7007-DS-Electonic-Typewriter-/370860286593?pt=UK_BOI_Office_Equipment_Supplies_Office_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658fee281

edit: Okay, I'm not sure if these are MX compatible caps or not - there is a difference between the 7007 and 7007L, apparently (7007L - definitely MX compatible, 7007 - unknown).
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« Reply #186 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:36:17 »
Here's another :

Hermes H 16
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It's the same typewriter as Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 L .
Mine has double-shot 'erase backwards'-key and a white carriage-return switch ..

This made me go look up Hermes typewriters.  Now I really want a mint chocolate chip cap set for my white RK9000


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« Reply #187 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:39:04 »
Decent deal on a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 typewriter (vintage PBT dye subs) if you are in the UK (free next day shipping for UK buyers, according to the listing, at least):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Gabriele-7007-DS-Electonic-Typewriter-/370860286593?pt=UK_BOI_Office_Equipment_Supplies_Office_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658fee281

edit: Okay, I'm not sure if these are MX compatible caps or not - there is a difference between the 7007 and 7007L, apparently (7007L - definitely MX compatible, 7007 - unknown).

Nice find. Does anybody know if these are MX compatible?

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #188 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:57:59 »
Here's another :

Hermes H 16
(Attachment Link)

It's the same typewriter as Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 L .
Mine has double-shot 'erase backwards'-key and a white carriage-return switch ..

This made me go look up Hermes typewriters.  Now I really want a mint chocolate chip cap set for my white RK9000

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« Reply #189 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 21:09:45 »
Decent deal on a Triumph Adler Gabriele 7007 typewriter (vintage PBT dye subs) if you are in the UK (free next day shipping for UK buyers, according to the listing, at least):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TA-Triumph-Adler-Gabriele-7007-DS-Electonic-Typewriter-/370860286593?pt=UK_BOI_Office_Equipment_Supplies_Office_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658fee281

edit: Okay, I'm not sure if these are MX compatible caps or not - there is a difference between the 7007 and 7007L, apparently (7007L - definitely MX compatible, 7007 - unknown).

Nice find. Does anybody know if these are MX compatible?

The whole ebay image viewer is broken for me, but they sure look MX compatible from what I see
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« Reply #190 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:55:17 »
I believe these are vintage Cherry/BSP dye-subs (looks like navy and light blue on light gray), not sure about switches, probably vintage MY's (if so, the keycaps should be MX compatible) - just note that this ships from Alaska...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIMPLE-PORTABLE-ELECTRIC-TYPEWRITER-TA-ADLER-ROYAL-GABRIELE-CYCLO-works-well-/171186826509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27db87ad0d
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #191 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 10:23:43 »
Nope. Check the corner of keycap, it's too rounded.

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« Reply #192 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 13:13:17 »
Nope. Check the corner of keycap, it's too rounded.

You're probably right.  Although the vintage dye-subs caps I have from TA typewriters are similar when it comes to rounded corners, and they are MX compatible.  Here's a pic - the vintage dyesubs are the 3 teal on light gray keys on the numberpad, the other keys are imsto dyesubs and modern BSP dyesubs:



I was also able to track down a few more pictures of the various Cyclo models, some were manufactured in Germany, some in the Czech Republic.  Based on color scheme I think this model is from the Czech Republic, I suppose that makes it less likely for these keycaps to be MX compatible.

If anyone's interested in these, before you bid consider contacting the seller and see if they'll pull a cap for you.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #193 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 17:46:14 »
Nope. Check the corner of keycap, it's too rounded.
Reallyhard to tell with the pictures being that shaky, but the corners might be too rounded.

I was going to reject it on the basis of having too much area on the top of the keycap. Again. too hard to say for sure without better images. Those are like the ones where I accidentally press the button when I'm moving the camera to a new angle, except worse.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #194 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:34:52 »
You can see it best in the third picture, very clear ^ gap between the spacebar and adjacent keys like how SP keys do. On Cherry it's hard straight lines.
I have a very good eye for these things, having to rely on equally bad or even worse than those picture when buying. I have only been wrong about Cherry keys one time in my own purchasing.
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« Reply #196 on: Sat, 07 December 2013, 12:29:53 »
Czech/US set from Peacock G81-3004SAT, those are indeed very nice.

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #197 on: Sat, 07 December 2013, 12:43:54 »
Czech/US set from Peacock G81-3004SAT, those are indeed very nice.
Thanks for the identification :) Good to know that tab is an original Cherry dyesub, not a replacement. It looked very odd to me at first.
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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #198 on: Sat, 07 December 2013, 13:47:41 »
Well they made a frankenset with some ANSI one...

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Re: Cherry PBT Dye Sub Keyboards on eBay
« Reply #199 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:30:12 »
this guy has quite a few dyesub sets for sale, and one very interesting one..

http://shop107253296.taobao.com/category-820052253.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4010-4494308221.7.78JMV5&search=y&catName=%BC%FC%C5%CC%C0%E0&v=1#bd

the one that caught my attention :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-4494308226.43.78JMV5&id=36091150935

also some nice ansi sets.

It seems we can not directly place the order on Taobao.com.   But can here for the keyboard cap:

http://www.pabbos.com/36091150935.shtml








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