EliteKeyboards IS READYING A CLACK SALE

[tjcaustin]

Ok well:

1. That wasn't directed at you, but:
2. Why do you feel like you have to be his champion?  Not only is your reason flimsy at best, you were completely misconstruing something someone else was saying just to keep arguing(I'll quote if I need to).  Or do you get angry at everyone that doesn't like the practices of things you think are very reputable?  This is not a comment either way as I actually think this whole conversation is superficially motivated, but seriously you have no ivory tower or white horse to feel the need to look down from upon.

[fuzzybaffy]

 )

What's wrong with defending a retailer? There's nothing wrong with defending a retailer. People are saying hurtful things, and I'm trying to defend some person from those hurtful things.

But, you're right. I think I did go overboard there, a little. LOL!

[tjcaustin]

I didn't claim any wrong-doing. 

But anyways, friendship song time.

[fuzzybaffy]

No, you did... Let's be honest. You said, I was speaking as if I was looking down an ivory tower. In other words, you thought I was being holier than thou.

But, in all honesty, some of the things that were said here were kind of ridiculous. Seriously. There are people threatening to boycott EK, just because they're not getting their clacks soon enough. That is a little crazy, IMO. But, I'll let it rest. You're right. I'm just gonna let it go.

[mehkat1974]

People are up in arms, calling EK "Mr. Burns", and threatening boycott just because they can't get their clacks soon enough. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

you're getting a bit excited there chief, I don't think anyone is calling for a boycott. A couple of ppl have said they will spend their money elsewhere. A boycott is political, most of us just have a short attention span and limited income. Personally I spent my disposable bit of income for that week on yum cha and enjoyed it very much. It hasn't stopped me checking the site, just not as regularly. And it does look to me like dangling a carrot to increase interest in the site and the other few items he sells. This idea of making it fair is pointless, fair by what standards? Everyone gets one? There aren't enough. The product doesn't need advertising, we do it for him, and it will sell out immediately regardless of any other factors, timezone/price whatever

edit: you said much the same in your post above and I agree, he has no obligation to anyone, except IMO to just bloody get on with it.

people moan about the high price of these in the resale market well for me now that is more about convenience than anything else, it's a lot easier than buying it from a shop.

[danielucf]

People are up in arms, calling EK "Mr. Burns", and threatening boycott just because they can't get their clacks soon enough. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

If you are referring to me I have every right to boycott a company if I don't agree with their business practices, just the same that if a company wants to risk losing customers with fuzzy release dates and insinuating that someone with a pre-sale question isn't a customer, they can do so.

I kinda like EK sometimes. I was even offered some kind of job on reddit via PM after giving some constructive criticism. Companies don't just magically get better, it takes place from people saying what they do and don't like. If a lot of people voice their opinion they may change their method to keep customers happy.

If apple kept the iPhone 6 in a "coming soon" state for ages without a definitive release date people might elect to buy an Android phone. After waiting over a week for uncertainty and "Soon..." I decided to buy a Coolermaster keyboard and a bunch of keys from feng instead of a leopold and three clacks. Sure if I have some money left in the budget I may try and pick up the Oktoberfest CC, but I'm no longer interested in a 3 cap purchase like I was previously because I don't like being told I'm not a customer, AND I don't approve of the current method of announcement and tease.

[singaporean123]

I guess from EK's POV they're giving everyone ample time to get ready, get their money together, get some decisions made and buy more than just the clacks from their site.

They may be able to sell something like 5 or 10 keyboards given that people have a week to think about what ELSE they want other than the CC.

If they were going to release the CC the moment they were ready for sale, most people would be OMGZ CC ADD TO CART CHECK OUT BUY PAY WAIT FOR MAIL.

Maybe this week long grace may give some people time to think about that HHKB/leopold/realforce that they've always wanted.

Then again.. if something's going to be in stock but not ready for sale for more than a week it will be nice if we get a rough gauge on when they'll be ready for order.

tl;dr : If you want CC at affordable prices you've got to wait:)

[fuzzybaffy]

This idea of making it fair is pointless, fair by what standards? Everyone gets one? There aren't enough. The product doesn't need advertising, we do it for him, and it will sell out immediately regardless of any other factors, timezone/price whatever

people moan about the high price of these in the resale market well for me now that is more about convenience than anything else, it's a lot easier than buying it from a shop.

Wait a sec... so you prefer, that EK doesn't have a fair system, so you have a better chance at getting your hands on one. And if not, then you're going to do your business elsewhere. In other words, if EK doesn't do what you want, you're going to stop business with them.

I'm sorry, but that just reeks of entitlement to me. This is a personal shop. The boss can do whatever he wants. He's selling these clacks as a business - he's not doing this as a personal favor to anyone. I mean... if you feel like you want to do business elsewhere, just because you don't get what you want, then... by all means.

People are up in arms, calling EK "Mr. Burns", and threatening boycott just because they can't get their clacks soon enough. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

If you are referring to me I have every right to boycott a company if I don't agree with their business practices, just the same that if a company wants to risk losing customers with fuzzy release dates and insinuating that someone with a pre-sale question isn't a customer, they can do so.

I kinda like EK sometimes. I was even offered some kind of job on reddit via PM after giving some constructive criticism. Companies don't just magically get better, it takes place from people saying what they do and don't like. If a lot of people voice their opinion they may change their method to keep customers happy.

If apple kept the iPhone 6 in a "coming soon" state for ages without a definitive release date people might elect to buy an Android phone. After waiting over a week for uncertainty and "Soon..." I decided to buy a Coolermaster keyboard and a bunch of keys from feng instead of a leopold and three clacks. Sure if I have some money left in the budget I may try and pick up the Oktoberfest CC, but I'm no longer interested in a 3 cap purchase like I was previously because I don't like being told I'm not a customer, AND I don't approve of the current method of announcement and tease.

Like I said... I can't argue with whatever you guys decide to do. I'm just here expressing my opinion. It's a little ridiculous to have such a sense of entitlement towards a business. No one owes you anything. EK isn't doing anything illegal, isn't doing anything morally reprehensible. I'm just here saying, some of the things said here are a little unfair towards the company.

[mehkat1974]

edit @ singaporean

I bet real money that doesn't happen I have tried to do that myself but their archaic shopping cart system (maybe this is what they have been upgrading/testing) means that you miss out on stuff as you're adding items.

OMGZ CC ADD TO CART CHECK OUT BUY PAY WAIT FOR MAIL

that's exactly how a clack sale goes, I don't think they can change it, unless they give priority to ppl buying other stuff, like buy a HHKB, guaranteed a couple of caps, but somehow I don't think a lot of ppl would see that as fair

fuzzbunny I'm saying it's already fair. I don't have a sense of entitlement, I have missed out at every one of these sales because it happened at a time when I wasn't around, I didn't go around moaning about how I should have got one, I shrugged my shoulders and went back to reddit.

[MMB]

So many angry people over a CC sale.....

[DanGWanG]

Ripster had a really good meme for this...

But I cant find it

[danielucf]

There are reasons why companies don't sell and advertise like this and elect to give solid release dates only when they can honor them. EK is getting back negativity because of what they put out there. If they had given an exact date, or simply announced when people could buy with an email notification then none of these threads would have started, and people wouldn't have gotten upset. They are the cause, and our responses are the effect ie: causality

I don't see any entitlement in anything I've said wishing they would have thought out their announcement and sale methods and phraseology on their web page.

[mehkat1974]

yes please someone post up a meme, brilliant

edit^^ I agree with this, I'm not angry, I don't have sense of entitlement for anything. I would like to buy something from a shop that has been advertising a product for well over a week and refusing to sell it.

If I miss out I will not care. I don't understand how the sales aren't fair in the first place, I would love it if someone could explain why the system of selling something until there's none left isn't fair, who is feeling left out?

[dirge]

A clack sale you say? It arouses the mighty tiger behind my fly.

Simpsons episode "Homer loves Flanders " watch the scene where he camps out for tickets.

They seem to be adding into cart now for me ;p

[danielucf]

Not a meme but probably applicable:

[fuzzybaffy]

LOL. You're mad that I called you self-entitled. LOL!

[danielucf]

LOL. You're mad that I called you self-entitled. LOL!

You are literally like 4.762 hitlers 

[DanGWanG]

Lol found it

[tjcaustin]

LOL. You're mad that I called you self-entitled. LOL!

You are literally like 4.762 hitlers 

I'm not entirely certain that is exact enough.  For surety's sake, always go to the hundred-thousandth digit.

[DanGWanG]

Im just posting pics, nothing personal

[rowdy]

The more people that decide to take their business elsewhere, the more clacks there are for the rest of us

[MissMurd3r84]

The more people that decide to take their business elsewhere, the more clacks there are for the rest of us

LOL. Only reason why I'd decide not to get the clack is due to me realising that $30 for a single key is a lot if only me in my dark dungeon can see it. But I feel guilt about everything I buy anything, so trying to talk myself out of buying it isn't a bad thing  )

[MMB]

[dirge]

Hope they limit to 1 per person.

[rowdy]

^ 1 of each type per person, you mean.

[mehkat1974]

LOL. You're mad that I called you self-entitled. LOL!

you're wrong. Please explain why you think the way the sell them isn't fair... Let me guess, you haven't got any?

[Batmann]

I was like "Mehhh..." until I red this page
Those MEME/pics/gif  put me in a good mood!
Clack War is good after all

[fuzzybaffy]

LOL. You're mad that I called you self-entitled. LOL!

you're wrong. Please explain why you think the way the sell them isn't fair... Let me guess, you haven't got any?

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I've been saying all along, that the way EK has things set up, right now, as it is, IS fair.

[dirge]

^ 1 of each type per person, you mean.

nope just 1, not one of each.  People shouldn't be that greedy.  If its 1 each many people will get what they want.

One of each normally means people buy all they can in the hope to trade for something else later on.

More than one clack on a keyboard looks ****ing stupid anyway.

[MMB]

More than one clack on a keyboard looks ****ing stupid anyway.

OH NO HE DIDN'T....!!!

[dirge]

Clack sales remind me of this Simpsons scene:

Homer can't resist the big game, so he camps out in front of the ticket
booth.  And his strategy pays off -- he's second in the huge line.

Homer: Heh heh heh, I did it!  Second in line, and all I had to do was
       miss eight days of work.
  Man: With the money you would have made working, you could have bought
       tickets from a scalper.
Homer: In theory, yes.  Jerk.

The wicket opens for selling tickets.  The first man in line steps up.

  Man: Give me, er, 30,000 tickets.
Woman: That'll be $950,000 please.
  Man: Look, the thing about that is, I only got $10 on me.  Can I pay
       you the rest later?
Woman: Sure.

The man walks off with a big stack of tickets, and the woman puts a
"Sold Out" sign in the window.  Homer sighs and slumps against the
wicket.

[mehkat1974]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I've been saying all along, that the way EK has things set up, right now, as it is, IS fair.

Then we are saying the same thing! I never once said I don't think it's fair... apparently this whole wait a week thing is because EK want to make things fair, well I don't understand what the problem is in the first place. Like I said, if I don't get one I move on, it doesn't bother me. Some ppl are lucky with the timing, I never have been. All I am saying is ffs get on with it

More than one clack on a keyboard looks ****ing stupid anyway.

could not agree more

[baldgye]

I wish people would use avatars, as without them I have to read people's names and then remember them.. like whats that all about?

[thegunner100]

I wish people would use avatars, as without them I have to read people's names and then remember them.. like whats that all about?

Agreed, I usually recognize people by avatars first. It's faster than reading.

[Shadovved]

Hahaha, so people like me often piss people off

Dont worry, am working on finding a suitable avatar

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Oh wait, that's the wrong avatar... carry on.

[dirge]

My avatar's invisible to stupid people.

[Shadovved]

LOLOL CLiB!

Was thinking along those lines as well

Great minds think alike HAHAHA!

[inlikeflynn]

[BlindRAGE606]

Well, that escalated quickly.

Downhill thread is going downhill.

[whiteduck]

nice pic flynn ^.^

[baldgye]

Well, that escalated quickly.

Downhill thread is going downhill.

isn't that the only direction a clack thread can go?

[metalliqaz]

Well, that escalated quickly.

Downhill thread is going downhill.

isn't that the only direction a clack thread can go?

Amen to that.  Can't believe how much whining.

[dirge]

Amen to that.  Can't believe how much whining.

This is just the warmup whine, then comes the too late you just missed out whiners, then the constant drone of the you just bought them to make money etc etc.... repeat every other month until the Chinese copy them and mass produce them in horrible colour combinations.

[longweight]

Even if I don't get some I can enjoy the *****ing that will follow

[dirge]

Even if I don't get some I can enjoy the *****ing that will follow

I want to mow your grass and send it to click clack to make a skull cap out of it for you.  Then when you go to take a photo you'll not be able to see it!

[longweight]

Even if I don't get some I can enjoy the *****ing that will follow

I want to mow your grass and send it to click clack to make a skull cap out of it for you.  Then when you go to take a photo you'll not be able to see it!

That sounds seedy!

[dirge]

I'm out there now covered in green paint looking through your window...

...put some ****ing pants on!

[baldgye]

I'm all kinds of confused

[inlikeflynn]

nice pic flynn ^.^

Thanks! Glad to see you still around here these days too