[IC] GMK sets interest check and planning

[Moosecraft]

Also, could we get 7x black spacebars? It's always hard to come by those with the 1.5x mods in WoB.

I think offering a space-bar 'pack' would be a good idea. Something like you get the matched ones for the alphas by default and then people could add on a 4-pack of space-bars in white/black & 6.25/7u.

THIS a thousand times

[IvanIvanovich]

No they won't do tripleshot keycap. Only to have legend on windowed key is pad printing. I guess you haven't looked the OP? Most of this is already going. If all you guys want black spacebar, I just add them to mod pack.

[esoomenona]

I looked at the OP, but just the pictures. I knew that was the case though, but I figured I'd just ask one last time... Sorry. But yes, spacebars would be awesome.

[esoomenona]

Actually, I would be okay with pad printing on them. I'm not sure how others feel.

[Broadmonkey]

7U and 6.25U and preferable something like 5U if possible would be really great! I think a lot of people with MY7000 sets would appreciate a spacebar pack. Come to think about it, couldn't we just make a spacebar pack alongside the alpha and mod sets with a few colors like beige, white and black.

[reiuorw]

in the OP, windowed keys look blank. are they going to blank? or pad printing?

[IvanIvanovich]

Pad printing TBD, need to see how much cost it adds. If it adds too much cost I think we will roll with blank only. I will see what size spacebars are available and we can determine what other sizes are really widely needed if any. Even if they have some of the odd sizes that are used on some other keyboards, the stem mounts may not be in line, because you know Cherry.

[Broadmonkey]

If we are going to order some odd sized spacebars anyway, they would more or less exclusively be used on custom keyboards and so stem mounts would be designed for that specific spacebar. It would just be great to finally be able to use something decently small on a small keyboard.
Btw, which size is JIS sized spacebars as a standard? ...if there is any.

Edit: Actually as I just looked into it, a 6U sized spacebar would probably be better (same size as on RF 87)

[IvanIvanovich]

Not sure there really is any overall standard size, I guess JIS spacebar range from 2.5-5 mostly. I think Filco and Ducky use something like a 4.25 or 4.5? I've only seen 3 Cherry JIS models. The 3600 has I think a 2.5, the 11802 has 3 and there is an 8000 series something that has a 6 units space with 9 single unit keys. Otherwise I am not sure what other sizes there may be from Cherry/GMK that are smaller than 6. Also alternately, how much demand may there be for 8+ units though I am not sure if GMK still have those either.

[pix3l_fodder]

1.25x windowed FN key would be nice!

[IvanIvanovich]

There will be B profile windowed 1.25. I was looking for other Cherry JIS, and found one I hadn't heard of G80-12000LTBJA. I wonder what other ones were made for Japan. They seem kind of hard to find out about and nothing much comes up in search engines. A JIS G80 is one of those last G80 that I really want for my collections.

[pix3l_fodder]

one printed FN though, for the GH60 peeps

[Broadmonkey]

That G80-12000LTBJA looks really interesting albeit pretty ****ed up at the same time. I believe it's a 2.75U spacebar so to replicate it would be pretty easy with a blank right shift.
One of the pics I found of it also displayed a pretty hefty price tag, so I guess it's something that will keep you around for some time if it's what will conclude your collection
I don't know how big cherry was in japan, but I guess it wasn't since there is really scarce examples of JIS cherry keyboards. I guess Topre, Omron and all the other japanese brands already had a good share of the market.

[korrelate]

Also, could we get 7x black spacebars? It's always hard to come by those with the 1.5x mods in WoB.

I think offering a space-bar 'pack' would be a good idea. Something like you get the matched ones for the alphas by default and then people could add on a 4-pack of space-bars in white/black & 6.25/7u.

THIS a thousand times

This thousand times a thousand times!! It's good to know that you'll be able to use this if you ever get that Korean custom you're always looking for!

[korrelate]

A question about the lock icon appearing on the caps lock key: where did this come from and why is it being used? I haven't performed an exhaustive search of the history of Cherry Keyboards, but from what I can tell, that lock icon is not used by cherry. Does this have to be used, or can we get a caps lock (stepped, preferrably) with the Cherry Legend on it?


Humbly,

K

[reiuorw]

A question about the lock icon appearing on the caps lock key: where did this come from and why is it being used? I haven't performed an exhaustive search of the history of Cherry Keyboards, but from what I can tell, that lock icon is not used by cherry. Does this have to be used, or can we get a caps lock (stepped, preferrably) with the Cherry Legend on it?


Humbly,

K

I'm not sure but I found this : (pics from zenuty)

[korrelate]

Wow. Ok, the icon does have a precedent (all things considered, that was a pretty fast response to that icon inquiry!!).

If at all possible, though, I'd like to request a standard 1.75 Caps Lock Legend without an icon (i.e. one that uses the words "Caps Lock"). Preferably stepped.

Thanks reiuorw!!

[Halvar]

The "handbag" has always been the standard caps lock icon on the french keyboard layouts, not only with Cherry. Search for AZERTY keyboard on Google image search. Cherry and IBM seem to have used it on all ISO terminal Model Ms, too ( http://www.9999hp.net/keyboard/temp/ ).  I have it on my German M-122, too.

Ivan has decided to use pure graphic legends wherever possible. I appreciate that decision, they look much nicer.

[bueller]

Ivan has decided to use pure graphic legends wherever possible. I appreciate that decision, they look much nicer.

Helps for non-english speakers too!

[IvanIvanovich]

Eventually I will see about text only mods version interest. But I don't think this time.
I like glyphs, or text. I never thought it looks so nice with mixed.

[korrelate]

The "handbag" has always been the standard caps lock icon on the french keyboard layouts, not only with Cherry. Search for AZERTY keyboard on Google image search. Cherry and IBM seem to have used it on all ISO terminal Model Ms, too ( http://www.9999hp.net/keyboard/temp/ ).  I have it on my German M-122, too.

Ivan has decided to use pure graphic legends wherever possible. I appreciate that decision, they look much nicer.

Interesting. Just to be clear too, my request isn't as much "for" an English-language caps lock key as much as it is "against" the "handbag" icon. I had no idea that it was called the handbag until I read this, but now that I have I understand more about my distaste for this icon: too cutesy.

So how about using the downward-pointing arrow icon instead of the handbag? That seems to have a number of precedents as well.

[Halvar]

I like the down arrow better, too, but I think the handbag has a lot of fans ...   

[Acanthophis]

Whatever you do, don't use text.
Handbag, downside arrow, I don't care, as long as it is symbols only.

[Moosecraft]

Handbag is my favorite, it looks really nice on my purple mods set.

[Tarzan]

Handbag is my favorite, it looks really nice on my purple mods set.

+1

Symbols are the only way to go, IMHO.

[Broadmonkey]

Handbag is my favorite, it looks really nice on my purple mods set.

It really does, although the blue down arrows on the g80-21xx boards are also a strong contender!

[IvanIvanovich]

I wondered though what was the thinking behind that anomaly. It would have made more sense to use a normal down arrow doubleshot on DE layout instead of pad printing it onto the lock icon. It dose look nice though, one of the boards I still regret letting out of my collection.

[korrelate]

I'm not picky, LOL... "in addition to" works just as well as "instead of." 

And my reasoning for this is twofold: yes... I'm not a fan of the handbag, so there's that. Another consideration is resale value. If ever I find a set I enjoy more than this, I'd like to pass this one along to someone else and I think the easiest set to sell is always going to be the set that gives the user the greatest number of choices.

LOL this is really killing me now. Every time I look at the caps lock on my CCnG all I see is a f***ing lady's purse. Don't get me wrong: I'll live, but F**K. LOL.

[rindorbrot]

My vote would also be the downward arrow instead of the handbag.

[Halvar]

LOL this is really killing me now. Every time I look at the caps lock on my CCnG all I see is a f***ing lady's purse. Don't get me wrong: I'll live, but F**K. LOL.

Sorry about that ...   
It's a lock, man. A big solid steel armoured manly lock with a thumb-thick shackle. Tell your subconscious that from me.

I don't really mind that symbol too much. I'd prefer the down arrow for its simplicity and how it fits the arrow on Shift, but the ha...rd lock is a nice looking legend, too.




 

[digi]

Gentle bump in hopes that this is happening? Me likes GMK

[IvanIvanovich]

Yeah it's happening. Groupbuy thread should be up later since I got the qoutes this morning. I need to get everything organized and the mock ups updated since there are some small changes.

[digi]

Nice!! Thanks for doing this,  Ivan <3

[LechnerDE]

Yeah it's happening. Groupbuy thread should be up later since I got the qoutes this morning. I need to get everything organized and the mock ups updated since there are some small changes.

****ing awesome!

[SeriouSSpotS]

Awesome

[Moosecraft]

Finally, my modifiers need some love

[Halvar]

Awesome!

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Take

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time...   

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[Sent]

Awesome!

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Take

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your my

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time money...   

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[bueller]

Yeah it's happening. Groupbuy thread should be up later since I got the qoutes this morning. I need to get everything organized and the mock ups updated since there are some small changes.

Squee!!! 

[rindorbrot]

Wohoo! Let's throw some money at the screen!

[IvanIvanovich]

I realized there was some keys missing from the Euro pack, so I am just waiting quote adjustment after I sent GMK the corrections. I also noticed that some other languages are going to be pretty close to taken care of missing only unique accented character like Estonian. I don't know if we have any members there, but if so you are covered.

[bueller]

I realized there was some keys missing from the Euro pack, so I am just waiting quote adjustment after I sent GMK the corrections. I also noticed that some other languages are going to be pretty close to taken care of missing only unique accented character like Estonian. I don't know if we have any members there, but if so you are covered.

I got so excited there for a second!

[Latin00032]

Is this GB going to have support for pokers and the gh60?

I was hoping for some of the keys to work with a gh60 hhkb layout.

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes. It will have every key for GH60 but that layout with the 1.25 enter key. Any other possible arrangement that uses either an ISO or ANSI standard enter is 100% with support for more than a dozen language layouts possible. Of course this means Poker and Pure are also taken care of.

OH, and also... I will go ahead and announce the winner, which little surprise is grey with 53% of votes and runner up blue with 39%. That means we will be doing darker Dolch like scheme.
Purple nav pack didn't get enough votes to satisfy me that it will make MOQ. Perhaps we will revisit it some other time.

[Latin00032]

Yes. It will have every key for GH60 but that layout with the 1.25 enter key. Any other possible arrangement that uses either an ISO or ANSI standard enter is 100% with support for more than a dozen language layouts possible. Of course this means Poker and Pure are also taken care of.

OH, and also... I will go ahead and announce the winner, which little surprise is grey with 53% of votes and runner up blue with 39%. That means we will be doing darker Dolch like scheme.
Purple nav pack didn't get enough votes to satisfy me that it will make MOQ. Perhaps we will revisit it some other time.

I was hoping purple would be in this GB. Next time.

Thanks for the info.

[reiuorw]

Yes. It will have every key for GH60 but that layout with the 1.25 enter key. Any other possible arrangement that uses either an ISO or ANSI standard enter is 100% with support for more than a dozen language layouts possible. Of course this means Poker and Pure are also taken care of.

OH, and also... I will go ahead and announce the winner, which little surprise is grey with 53% of votes and runner up blue with 39%. That means we will be doing darker Dolch like scheme.
Purple nav pack didn't get enough votes to satisfy me that it will make MOQ. Perhaps we will revisit it some other time.

great!

I agree it's smiliar to dolch, but to use language pack with black nerv pack, I think grey would be best color combination.

[Broadmonkey]

Great to hear that grey won the vote! That will make it significantly easier to reach MOQ on euro sets!

[rindorbrot]

I realized there was some keys missing from the Euro pack, so I am just waiting quote adjustment after I sent GMK the corrections.

Which you won't get before Monday

[bazemk1979]

Great to hear that grey won the vote! That will make it significantly easier to reach MOQ on euro sets!

depending on how many euro people jump on this, don't forget almost all US peeps and outsiders jumped on the Dolch set earlier which started at $80. I wont go for this GB because I'm waiting on the Dolch and the Dolch extension set, I see no reason if I have new complete Dolch set and buy another almost Dolch with black modifiers instead of the original dark gray modifiers.... I rather not join this GB and go for Sherrys Handerbeit, + original guys that preordered the Dolch will get discount again for every preorder down the road.

I see the need for the ISO and language packs for people from other countries, I wish you all the best in reaching GMK MOQ

[gojira54]

yay take my money!