[IC] GMK sets interest check and planning

[Poom]

or we get a few proxy people to help out, ie. one responsible for EU, one for US and one for Asia, so GMK split into 3 packages? that might be cheaper? just an idea though, might not be the best.

[IvanIvanovich]

That was also considered, but GMK didn't want to split the shipment into more than 50/50 exactly which wasn't going to be of a good benefit. It just makes things more complicated if I have to collect different prices for people depending on which region they are for taxes and such.

[Poom]

That was also considered, but GMK didn't want to split the shipment into more than 50/50 exactly which wasn't going to be of a good benefit. It just makes things more complicated if I have to collect different prices for people depending on which region they are for taxes and such.

ah got it,

so GMK's quality is higher than SP right? also more expensive? or just higher MOQ?

[bazemk1979]

about the same price, wayyyyyyy higher MOQ, better quality for sure, but not like SP caps will break either. On another note SP has more profile options than GMK, SP can do lots of custom keycaps GMK don't, but then GMK need none of that since their legends are the most desired.

Both companies are good and excel more than the other in different ways.

[Dianoda]

So, are windowed caps-lock/scroll-lock keys a go for this GB?

[IvanIvanovich]

Windowed keys will be include in mod/nav pack. Same contents list I typed out for the purple will apply to the white/black set plus all the keys we had from the mods pack last time except the 1x ctrl and alts.

[Dubsgalore]

windowed caps 

[Amble]

Thanks for including the numpad math symbols... I assume they are like the ones I have seen on Phetto's keyboard?  If I could get my hands on those...

[IvanIvanovich]

You mind reader!

[Amble]

Me?  Those are just too cool not to have.

I am sorry if this question has been asked before or if it sounds ignorant, but how much would it cost to have GMK to tool a new legend?  A Windows 8 style 1.25x modifier would look awesome, but I am not even sure he does it from the little bit I have read.

[IvanIvanovich]

Hehe. Yeah I always liked the proper multiply and divide better than asterisk and slash too.
They aren't taking orders for new tooling for custom legends yet. I've been bugging them to do a few for us like 'Fn' 1.25 and 1.5 that would be nice to have that never existed before. I keep hoping they will allow it soon. I know a lot of people don't like win8, and I didn't like it all that much at first... but in any case if you hate the OS or not I still think the win8 logo is much nicer looking. It would probably come out better than the wavy one they have now since it is even more simple, straight lines.
I also keep hoping they will get the catalog of all the legends they do already have tooling for available for viewing. I am sure there are some cool long forgotten obscure ones that could be great to have.

I was looking at layouts today, and I noticed that Brazilian Portuguese is only a few keys off what is already in the US/GB/JA set to make it complete. I think to add it. How do you all feel about it?

[Amble]

Yeah... that would be awesome if they could do a couple of new legends to start with, like the Fn and Windows 8 mods, since it would only make sense in all future sets.  Looking at this thread I noticed Halvar posted a set that had the same math symbols in it too.  Either way there is a lot I haven't seen from Cherry/GMK and a catalog would be a awesome idea to let us know what our options are.

[Scoliosis Jones]

in for the brazilian portuguese addon pack

[IvanIvanovich]

First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.

[bueller]

I asked them to scan it for me LOL.

Hahahaha this made me crack up, nice one.

[rowdy]

First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.

They should scan it for posterity, at the least!

I imagine they would get a few requests for a catalog.

[Acanthophis]

First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.

You can ask them to send it to a German GHer, if they are not willing to scan over 1000 pages.

[SpAmRaY]

First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.

Perhaps we just need to do a fundraiser to send you over there to poke around on a factory 'tour'!!

[Proc31]

Really like the look of this Group buy so far, certainly something I'd consider buying considering it's once in a blue moon we get ISO and GB legends.

[IvanIvanovich]

Sure I won't stop you from sending me to Germany, but I am unlikely to come back from Europe if so... )

[baldgye]

will there be any purple mods for the number pad with this set? I don't think a full set of mods in purple would be good, but it would be nice for the number pad to have them

[SpAmRaY]

Sure I won't stop you from sending me to Germany, but I am unlikely to come back from Europe if so... )

Well we'd better keep you in the states for the time being then.....make sure we get some more group buys out of you!!

[IvanIvanovich]

There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.

[badcop]

whats in the lead at the moment?

[oTurtlez]

Do we have an ETA on when these will go to an actual group buy?

[IvanIvanovich]

Results won't be revealed until ordering starts. Just waiting for final pricing from GMK and I will get it moved into groupbuy then as soon as they get back to me with everything.

[oTurtlez]

Results won't be revealed until ordering starts. Just waiting for final pricing from GMK and I will get it moved into groupbuy then as soon as they get back to me with everything.

Sounds great. I'll definitely be in for a set.

[esoomenona]

GAH! PayPal needs to hurry up and resolve my chargebacks so I can actually do things...

[SpAmRaY]

GAH! PayPal needs to hurry up and resolve my chargebacks so I can actually do things...

I got your back bro!!

[esoomenona]

Thanks! The last couple transactions I've made, they were kind enough to allow me to mail out a money order. Maybe I could send one to someone who could then proxy my order.

[baldgye]

There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.

fair enough

[SpAmRaY]

Thanks! The last couple transactions I've made, they were kind enough to allow me to mail out a money order. Maybe I could send one to someone who could then proxy my order.

Chase quick pay!

[esoomenona]

Shoot, I didn't know we were voting. Personally though, I think the purple we have is just enough. I don't think conforming to the usual standards of TKL sets is needed.

Thanks! The last couple transactions I've made, they were kind enough to allow me to mail out a money order. Maybe I could send one to someone who could then proxy my order.

Chase quick pay!

AWWW YEEE! I forgot we could do that! This could be great.

[whiskytango]

Ivan, think there's any chance we could ever do a mini purple set which includes an extra backspace and tab key? If I had an extra of those two keys, I could do a whole other set with my purple mods. One ANSI style with normal 2.25 and 2.75 shifts and 1.25 mods, and one ISO style with the shorter 1.25 and 1.75 shifts and 1.5 mods. I'm going to do this once GH60s get here, and it would be nice to not have to use the black backspace and and tab with all the other mods being purple.

I realize not everyone will want to make two complete sets out of their purple mod packs, and I seriously doubt this could reach MOQ, but just throwing it out there.

Edit: Oh, and obviously you would have to use stepped caps lock on one set and full touch on the other

[IvanIvanovich]

I did have some extras of certain keys that I sold so some were probably able to do such things. I still have some stuff that I will release for sale soon from the last buy. I held onto some things to ensure I could send things to fix any of my packing errors. If we ever do any purple again I don't imagine it will be any time soon.
Generally though, I have it in mind as 1 set, 1 keyboard. I know many people appreciate economy, but I have to do some things to help make sure we can make the MOQs.

In regard to payment for further buys I am looking into some alternatives, as I would like to avoid using paypal anymore at all. Right now the most likely choice is dwolla.

[badcop]

I did have some extras of certain keys that I sold so some were probably able to do such things. I still have some stuff that I will release for sale soon from the last buy. I held onto some things to ensure I could send things to fix any of my packing errors. If we ever do any purple again I don't imagine it will be any time soon.
Generally though, I have it in mind as 1 set, 1 keyboard. I know many people appreciate economy, but I have to do some things to help make sure we can make the MOQs.

In regard to payment for further buys I am looking into some alternatives, as I would like to avoid using paypal anymore at all. Right now the most likely choice is dwolla.

i saw a post on deskthorithy about the paypal issues.  is dwolla allowing you set up something like a non profit?

[pasph]

"Currently, Dwolla is for U.S. residents only"

[HongKongFui]

i saw a post on deskthorithy about the paypal issues.  is dwolla allowing you set up something like a non profit?

I'm not there, which paypal- issues?

[IvanIvanovich]

I just don't like paypal, like many others. If anything I would like to at least minimize it's use from now on if I can't totally escape it.

[esoomenona]

Is Amazon Payments US only? Is there any other site that won't make it so easy to lose control of your account (even if it is for a short amount of time)?

[IvanIvanovich]

Pretty much all the payment sites have some issue that makes something hard or problematic. I just wish US banks would get with the program and use ****ing IBAN and make person to person transfers easy like everybody else and we wouldn't need the 3rd party payments sites at all.

[LechnerDE]

There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.

Does that mean you don't even list the purple nav pack in your upcoming GB or do you mean it's just not likely it will reach MOQ?

[bazemk1979]

There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.

Does that mean you don't even list the purple nav pack in your upcoming GB or do you mean it's just not likely it will reach MOQ?

yes on both, sad but true.

[osxoep]

Amazon Payments isn't great for people outside the US.
They charge in US$ and some banks (e.g. mine) make a charge for currency conversion to the local currency.

[Poom]

I dont know if someone mentioned here already, but it would be nice if a "command" key (1.25)can be included in the set. Im sure there are a few mac users out there. 

[rowdy]

I dont know if someone mentioned here already, but it would be nice if a "command" key (1.25)can be included in the set. Im sure there are a few mac users out there. 

There are.

Seen this?

[Poom]

I dont know if someone mentioned here already, but it would be nice if a "command" key (1.25)can be included in the set. Im sure there are a few mac users out there. 

There are.

Seen this?

oh i didnt they are related. sorry.

[IvanIvanovich]

I don't believe there is a Command, Cmd, or st. Johns arms glyph legend existing for Cherry. GMK won't cut new legends for us just yet. Also I don't really know how much interest there really is as I tried to offer Mac version in my dyesubs buy and it didn't even reach 20 sets so I scrapped the option.

[Poom]

I don't believe there is a Command, Cmd, or st. Johns arms glyph legend existing for Cherry. GMK won't cut new legends for us just yet. Also I don't really know how much interest there really is as I tried to offer Mac version in my dyesubs buy and it didn't even reach 20 sets so I scrapped the option.

I mean its not a deal breaker for me anyway since, I generally have a black key there, so funtionality is there, just that little bit extra.

plus, i can get a sharpy marker and draw it myself 

[rowdy]

There probably are not enough Mac users who have standard layouts or non-Matias boards who want Command keys.

I would, but I have switched to my HHKB on my Mac for now, and can't really see myself changing that for a while.  The HHKB already has Command symbols on the meta keys