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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #350 on: Thu, 04 April 2013, 15:47:08 »
Just got my RF 55g in the mail. Not sure if its just me because it almost feels like I'm typing on my 45g.

I have both in front of me and I can notice a big difference. Someone buy my 45g!!!

color? uniform? price?

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« Reply #351 on: Thu, 04 April 2013, 16:32:25 »
Just got my RF 55g in the mail. Not sure if its just me because it almost feels like I'm typing on my 45g.

I have both in front of me and I can notice a big difference. Someone buy my 45g!!!

color? uniform? price?

Black with black on black keys. Uniform 45g. More info + pics here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41573.0
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #352 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 08:28:21 »
I'm so glad I decided to get the 55g when I ordered my first topre just two weeks ago, I find it an absolute pleasure to type/game on. 
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #353 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 09:30:16 »
Yeah, they're pretty magical switches

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #354 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 13:25:16 »
My 55g white RF just arrived via Fedex.....oh ja!
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #355 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 18:50:13 »
My 55g white RF just arrived via Fedex.....oh ja!

And? What's the holdup on the status report?! Are you now a 55g fanboy? We expect a full update by the end of the day or there will be consequences. Oh, and don't forget to fill out your TPS reports for Lumbergh.


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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #356 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:56:33 »
After coming from using a buckling spring board for a month straight....55g feels just right.  45g feels way too light now. 

55g pops the switch back up at you instantly.
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #357 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 23:00:33 »
You finally got a man's board. MAN-HANDS are in your near future.

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« Reply #358 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 05:00:51 »
After coming from using a buckling spring board for a month straight....55g feels just right.  45g feels way too light now. 

55g pops the switch back up at you instantly.

I'm at a loss to understand this. I use a RF variable...so 30g - 45g. I like it. In fact, I can type faster on it than I can on my HHKB. So why is the 55g the Holy Grail switch weight? Don't misunderstand...I'm open to learn. Only a fool stops learning and assumes he's 'arrived' at the throne of wisdom. I'm seriously wondering what the draw is to the 55g to which you guys seem to gravitate. I've got a buyer for my variable whenever I want to sell it. Convince me why I should sell it and get the 55g.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #359 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 05:06:26 »
After coming from using a buckling spring board for a month straight....55g feels just right.  45g feels way too light now. 

55g pops the switch back up at you instantly.

I'm at a loss to understand this. I use a RF variable...so 30g - 45g. I like it. In fact, I can type faster on it than I can on my HHKB. So why is the 55g the Holy Grail switch weight? Don't misunderstand...I'm open to learn. Only a fool stops learning and assumes he's 'arrived' at the throne of wisdom. I'm seriously wondering what the draw is to the 55g to which you guys seem to gravitate. I've got a buyer for my variable whenever I want to sell it. Convince me why I should sell it and get the 55g.


Consider that possibly he might have tried all of the above? In fact, I am pretty sure he has. as have I. It really depends on your style of typing and if you prefer heavier switches or not. For me, 55g feels much more solid than my HHKB type-s. It just has a heaviness that springs the slider back up with a satisfying feel and sound. Typing on a 45g RF doesn't feel the same as a 55g. You really just need to try one, not much can really be explained when it comes to key feel. And since most people have personal preference based on a lot of factors, actually trying one can be the only answer.

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« Reply #360 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 09:52:07 »
You can try it yourself. Your escape key should be 55g.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #361 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 10:48:57 »
Here's my 55g uni all done up.  I'm definitely selling a ton of my boards.  Bye bye KMAC LE, Dolch, etc.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #362 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 10:54:39 »
Dats sexy, bro

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« Reply #363 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 12:36:59 »
Very nice. I started out with a black 55g, traded cases with khaangaaroo (sp), and finally got some white caps. White is just so much sexier.

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« Reply #364 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:43:56 »
I wish HHKB came with 55g D:

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #365 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:59:25 »
To buy a GH60 Or a 55g RF... WAY TOO HARD TO CHOOSE.
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #366 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:02:57 »
Here's my 55g uni all done up.  I'm definitely selling a ton of my boards.  Bye bye KMAC LE, Dolch, etc.

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Wow.  Those are some strong feelings of commitment to Topre!  Tope now, Topre tomorrow, Topre forever.
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« Reply #367 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:37:30 »
Been there already. Us Topre fanatics are quite dedicated.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #368 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:45:57 »
Can one of you try to convince me to buy topre? I can't choose between a 55g RF or getting a nice GH 60.
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #369 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:47:53 »
both
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #370 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:51:32 »
I don't exactly want to spend roughly 450$ on keyboards atm :P
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« Reply #371 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:53:52 »
I don't exactly want to spend roughly 450$ on keyboards atm :P
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #372 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:55:20 »
Can one of you try to convince me to buy topre?


Do you like boobs? Do you imagine typing on boobs? That is topre. Enough convincing?

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« Reply #373 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:57:27 »
I don't exactly want to spend roughly 450$ on keyboards atm :P
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Ok, I wouldn't mind spending that much money to get some badass keyboards, but it probably would not be the smartest use of my money :P
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #374 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 15:58:20 »
Can one of you try to convince me to buy topre?


Do you like boobs? Do you imagine typing on boobs? That is topre. Enough convincing?
Boobs are pretty amazing...
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #375 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 21:10:18 »
After coming from using a buckling spring board for a month straight....55g feels just right.  45g feels way too light now. 

55g pops the switch back up at you instantly.

I'm at a loss to understand this. I use a RF variable...so 30g - 45g. I like it. In fact, I can type faster on it than I can on my HHKB. So why is the 55g the Holy Grail switch weight? Don't misunderstand...I'm open to learn. Only a fool stops learning and assumes he's 'arrived' at the throne of wisdom. I'm seriously wondering what the draw is to the 55g to which you guys seem to gravitate. I've got a buyer for my variable whenever I want to sell it. Convince me why I should sell it and get the 55g.


Consider that possibly he might have tried all of the above? In fact, I am pretty sure he has. as have I. It really depends on your style of typing and if you prefer heavier switches or not. For me, 55g feels much more solid than my HHKB type-s. It just has a heaviness that springs the slider back up with a satisfying feel and sound. Typing on a 45g RF doesn't feel the same as a 55g. You really just need to try one, not much can really be explained when it comes to key feel. And since most people have personal preference based on a lot of factors, actually trying one can be the only answer.

Akimbo and I are Topre Amigos. He's my Topre Bruthafromanuthamotha. I know he has the 45g, which is why I asked for his opinion. Some guys have nothing worthwhile to say, some guys do. I respect his opinion because he's a member of the latter.

Thanks for your input Caps. The reason for my question is because somebody offered to buy my RF silent. I would consider the 45g or 55g uniform to replace it.

My typing style has become considerably lighter since getting the RF variable, and I like the change. My concern is that the 55g would require me to revert back to a heavy handed typing style. The reason I'm considering the 55g is for the increased tactility. I just don't want to have to hammer the keys.

So can you still type on the 55g with fingers? Is there less bottoming out with the 55g over the 45g? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why so many guys have gravitated to the 55g.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #376 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 21:21:49 »
I guess I'm just trying to figure out why so many guys have gravitated to the 55g.
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« Reply #377 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 21:45:04 »
@Mac: I've encountered that worry from a lot of people regarding the 55g, that it will be some sort of drastic difference from the 45g. While the difference is noticeable, IMO it's still roughly the same as typing on something like blues. Like I mentioned earlier, the escape key on a variable is weighted at 55g, so you can at least get some idea of how it feels.

My personal opinion is that the 45g felt almost loose, like the keys weren't really solid. I find myself typing lighter on the 55g than I did on the 45g because of the increased tactility. However, I've been typing professionally for the last 15 years pretty much every day, on fairly crappy RD over membrane boards (up until late 2010), and have never experienced any wrist or finger pain, so if that's something you have to worry about, then your experience with the 55g may be completely different than mine.

I would suggest you buy one and try it out. There's enough demand for them that you can make almost all your money back on it here in the classifieds, and then just get yourself a 45g and not be out much money.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #378 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 21:51:34 »
After coming from using a buckling spring board for a month straight....55g feels just right.  45g feels way too light now. 

55g pops the switch back up at you instantly.

I'm at a loss to understand this. I use a RF variable...so 30g - 45g. I like it. In fact, I can type faster on it than I can on my HHKB. So why is the 55g the Holy Grail switch weight? Don't misunderstand...I'm open to learn. Only a fool stops learning and assumes he's 'arrived' at the throne of wisdom. I'm seriously wondering what the draw is to the 55g to which you guys seem to gravitate. I've got a buyer for my variable whenever I want to sell it. Convince me why I should sell it and get the 55g.


Consider that possibly he might have tried all of the above? In fact, I am pretty sure he has. as have I. It really depends on your style of typing and if you prefer heavier switches or not. For me, 55g feels much more solid than my HHKB type-s. It just has a heaviness that springs the slider back up with a satisfying feel and sound. Typing on a 45g RF doesn't feel the same as a 55g. You really just need to try one, not much can really be explained when it comes to key feel. And since most people have personal preference based on a lot of factors, actually trying one can be the only answer.

Akimbo and I are Topre Amigos. He's my Topre Bruthafromanuthamotha. I know he has the 45g, which is why I asked for his opinion. Some guys have nothing worthwhile to say, some guys do. I respect his opinion because he's a member of the latter.

Thanks for your input Caps. The reason for my question is because somebody offered to buy my RF silent. I would consider the 45g or 55g uniform to replace it.

My typing style has become considerably lighter since getting the RF variable, and I like the change. My concern is that the 55g would require me to revert back to a heavy handed typing style. The reason I'm considering the 55g is for the increased tactility. I just don't want to have to hammer the keys.

So can you still type on the 55g with fingers? Is there less bottoming out with the 55g over the 45g? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why so many guys have gravitated to the 55g.

55g definitely has an increased tactility compared to 45g.  The best way I can describe the 55g is how the 45g feels fresh out of the box the first few minutes of typing on it.  Maybe that's a crap analogy, but it seems as though the 45g lost some tactility after a few minutes typing. 

You won't be able to fines a 55g topre switch.  There's just too much force required and bottoming out is inevitable. With that said, 55g topre isn't rock hard...it's still light-ish when compared to buckling spring over membrane or pink/black/white alps.

I started out on a uni 45g RF boards then purchased a uni 55g...which I ended up selling to brocaps because it was too heavy for me.  Now, coming straight from buckling spring over membrane....my new 55g feels just right.  Perhaps I just needed time to build up some finger strength before really judging 55g topres? 

If you have the spare change, pick up a 55g uni from EK....you can sell it at a real minimal loss in the off chance that you do not like the switch.
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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #379 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 22:37:08 »

Akimbo and I are Topre Amigos. He's my Topre Bruthafromanuthamotha. I know he has the 45g, which is why I asked for his opinion. Some guys have nothing worthwhile to say, some guys do. I respect his opinion because he's a member of the latter.

Thanks for your input Caps. The reason for my question is because somebody offered to buy my RF silent. I would consider the 45g or 55g uniform to replace it.

My typing style has become considerably lighter since getting the RF variable, and I like the change. My concern is that the 55g would require me to revert back to a heavy handed typing style. The reason I'm considering the 55g is for the increased tactility. I just don't want to have to hammer the keys.

So can you still type on the 55g with fingers? Is there less bottoming out with the 55g over the 45g? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why so many guys have gravitated to the 55g.


I honestly feel that 55g is the perfect topre weight. Hell, if they had a 65g, I might even try that. I just feel like anything less than 55g really doesn't feel as snappy.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #380 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 22:40:00 »
Is there anyone here with a µTron, and what weight does it have?

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« Reply #381 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 23:39:28 »
Ok, that helps...thanks guys.

My last question, I promise. Is it relevant to compare Topre's actuation force to Cherry, or are the switches so different, it doesn't apply? The blues are 50g, 60g peak force. (Not sure what 'peak force' means.)

Anyway Daerid, I like blues, and probably more than browns if it weren't for the noise. When somebody first moves to a mechanical board, the 'clack-clack' is novel. Once the novelty wears off, you are left with a loud ass keyboard, which is why I've always said browns were my favorite Cherry switch. Blues certainly are not too heavy. Blues are like a Harley with straight pipes.

Comparing Cherry to Topre is like comparing a Harley to a BMW motorcycle.  :D

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« Reply #382 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 00:32:11 »
Very, very true. I meant strictly as to how much perceived force is needed to actuate the switch. 55g topres are much lighter than I thought they were going to be. But the action is still quite crisp.

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« Reply #383 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:22:23 »
I've been considering a RealForce 87u but I'm torn between 45g uniform vs. a 55g uniform. I have a HHKB Pro 2 and love it for typing but I like my Cherry MX black TKL for gaming but extended typing gets too fatiguing. Would a 55g be a good choice for a all purpose use, since I already have a 45g HHKB. I would appreciate any input from the Topre experts in this thread.   

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« Reply #384 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 22:54:43 »
For what you just described a 55g would be perfect.


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« Reply #385 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 23:43:46 »
Cherry Red's are the perfect MX switch for me, I'm thinking I might like the 45g better?

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« Reply #386 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 23:52:53 »
Yes, probably. They have less tactility than the 55g (at least on the RealForces), and on some keys can feel almost linear

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« Reply #387 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 01:06:16 »
Yes, probably. They have less tactility than the 55g (at least on the RealForces), and on some keys can feel almost linear


I truly think Daedrid needs to rename himself to 55g on these forums.

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« Reply #388 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 01:28:54 »
I do come off a bit like a zealot, don't I :)

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« Reply #389 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 01:37:25 »
:D

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« Reply #390 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 12:54:26 »
We should have forum titles!

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« Reply #391 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:06:49 »
We should have forum titles!


"Daedrid - Master of 55g Topre Switches"

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« Reply #392 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 15:23:01 »
2 d's, not 3 ;)

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« Reply #393 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 15:25:39 »
Dadedrdidid?
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« Reply #395 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:33:39 »
Do you know what's better than 55g topres? 55g short throw topres :p
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« Reply #396 on: Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:38:09 »
Disagree.

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Re: Topre Appreciation Thread!
« Reply #397 on: Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:49:23 »
i took the spring from the spacebar and put it on 1 of my 35g keys .  I like that feeling the most.  capacitative switch + a more linear feel.

Any suggestions on how i can do that with a few other keys ? i've checked some hardware stores and cannot find a spring that is light enough on the resistance compared to the one on the spacebar.
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« Reply #398 on: Tue, 09 April 2013, 23:50:18 »
I'm really into my 45g right now, but haven't tried a 55g..someone feel free to let me borrow one :)

I'm curious, daerid/bro caps bro, which mx switches do you like the best?

Edit- Also, where can one grab a 104 uniform?

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« Reply #399 on: Tue, 09 April 2013, 23:56:29 »
Browns, hands down. Blues are a bit behind browns. But even browns start to make my knuckles sore after a couple hours