Author Topic: Which realforce? (Read 9131 times)

Mainian · « **on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 09:00:39 »

I'm wondering what's everyone's opinion...

I would use this keyboard both for gaming and typing / programming. (Would prefer the quietest I can get).

Do I need to look at the 55g uniform or the silent? 87 Black.

calavera · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 11:48:29 »

Silent if you want the quietest.

Mainian · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:10:11 »

Quote from: calavera on Wed, 27 February 2013, 11:48:29

Silent if you want the quietest.

I probably shouldn't have typed that.

Quieter than cherry mx blues. O_O

daerid · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:20:34 »

See sig

iri · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 14:40:07 »

Quote from: Mainian on Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:10:11

Quieter than cherry mx blues. O_O

any topre switch board in existence.

Mainian · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 16:17:04 »

Quote from: iri on Wed, 27 February 2013, 14:40:07

Quote from: Mainian on Wed, 27 February 2013, 12:10:11
Quieter than cherry mx blues. O_O
any topre switch board in existence.

How would you compare them sound wise with browns?

daerid · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 17:50:27 »

Quieter than browns, most definitely.

Quieter than most rubber domes, honestly.

quickcrx702 · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:58:33 »

55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands. I was underwhelmed by regular Topre, but 55g gives a major bon nerr due to awesomeness.

webs0r · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 22:04:08 »

I've got a 55g uniform.

Honestly very quiet, quieter than most of my Cherry boards. Maybe my RACE (no plate) with reds switches and o-rings may be quieter?

The sound it does have is quite a satisfying 'thock'. I am happy I didn't get the silent version now.

khaangaaroo · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 22:14:58 »

Quote from: webs0r on Wed, 27 February 2013, 22:04:08

The sound it does have is quite a satisfying 'thock'. I am happy I didn't get the silent version now.

The silencing is on the upstroke. The thock sound on the downstoke is the same in the silent version.

iri · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 27 February 2013, 23:46:03 »

Quote from: quickcrx702 on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:58:33

55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands

lazerpointer · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:02:14 »

Lol, I preferred lighter boards until I got the 55g. Liked that thing so much I was tempted to get another 55g, but the curiosity of trying the lighter Topres was just digging at my skull. Pulled the trigger on a Type-S just now

)

Edit;
Lol! Gif master

Michael · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:04:21 »

Quote from: Flip on Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:02:14

Pulled the trigger on a Type-S just now

Mainian · « **Reply #13 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:05:34 »

Quote from: webs0r on Wed, 27 February 2013, 22:04:08

Honestly very quiet, quieter than most of my Cherry boards. Maybe my RACE (no plate) with reds switches and o-rings may be quieter?

I just replaced the E switch on my poker and went ahead and put o-rings on it. (Need PBT switches - as I've grown used to the feel of PBT and POM keys for the last 3 months).

And I was thoroughly surprised with how quiet black switches + o-rings really are. And the fact that the o-rings don't hinder me like they did on a cherry mx blue.

Quote from: Flip on Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:02:14

Lol, I preferred lighter boards until I got the 55g. Liked that thing so much I was tempted to get another 55g, but the curiosity of trying the lighter Topres was just digging at my skull. Pulled the trigger on a Type-S just now )

I kinda want to get a 45g uniform, simply because I like the lightness of my cherry mx reds -> and if I really do learn to love torpe, then it will be my main keyboard for my desk.... so I'd like to get it right on the first try.

But thanks for the info, I was aware the silencing was for the upstroke -> I'll keep that in mind. I'm still contemplating getting full sized, which would be variable weight.

Additionally, how are they silenced? Is it similar to the o-ring modification underneath the topre switch itself?

tjcaustin · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:06:14 »

Fug it, in the morning I'm going to be the future owner of a 55g 87u. I don't need another "sooper rare" korean custom.

Michael · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:09:26 »

Quote from: tjcaustin on Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:06:14

Fug it, in the morning I'm going to be the future owner of a 55g 87u. I don't need another "sooper rare" korean custom.

tjcaustin · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:10:24 »

The creepiest part of that? Darken both the beard and hair and that's *very* close to my current look.

Michael · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:12:33 »

Quote from: tjcaustin on Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:10:24

The creepiest part of that? Darken both the beard and hair and that's *very* close to my current look.

Manly men must use manly keyboards. Enuff said...

Mainian · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:19:13 »

The thread hijackers are attacking, runaway...

iri · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 02:02:02 »

Quote from: Mainian on Thu, 28 February 2013, 01:05:34

Additionally, how are they silenced? Is it similar to the o-ring modification underneath the topre switch itself?

yes.

iri · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 02:44:53 »

main reason i like my realforce keyboard is that it's 45g. it stands further from usual rubber dome keyboards because it is much lighter.

daerid · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:24:41 »

I'll never understand people who pay the extra for the Type-S. Don't get me wrong, I'm always happy to hear about another Topre owner, but god damn... the HHKB is already quiet enough as it is!

Michael · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:27:41 »

Quote from: daerid on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:24:41

I'll never understand people who pay the extra for the Type-S. Don't get me wrong, I'm always happy to hear about another Topre owner, but god damn... the HHKB is already quiet enough as it is!

mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.

And don't hate because I bought a type-s

lazerpointer · « **Reply #23 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:30:50 »

I am easily distracted. I don't want anybody to distract me with noises. That goes both ways - I don't wanna be all clackety clack at work when typing. A guy in his cubicle down the hall uses cherry blues now (QFR), he just doesn't care what people think - I actually got him into the world of mechanical keyboards lol. It also helps that he's Lead Developer... nobody can really tell him anything about his keyboard either way.

On the other hand I'm too lazy to open up a keyboard to mod it

)

Michael · « **Reply #24 on:** Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:34:25 »

Quote from: Flip on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:30:50

On the other hand I'm too lazy to open up a keyboard to mod it )

This, too. I just didn't want to put in all of the work required to do the mod.

iri · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 01 March 2013, 00:38:56 »

Quote from: Flip on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:30:50

I am easily distracted. I don't want anybody to distract me with noises.

nobody can be distracted with THOCK-THOCK-THOCK!

thirdkind · « **Reply #26 on:** Fri, 01 March 2013, 00:42:56 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:27:41

mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.

And don't hate because I bought a type-s

Exactly. Not sure why so many hate on the Type-S. Yeah, it's expensive, but I'm really enjoying mine and I'm glad I made the purchase. $100 is more than worth the time it would've taken to do the mods myself.

quickcrx702 · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 01 March 2013, 01:26:48 »

Quote from: iri on Wed, 27 February 2013, 23:46:03

Quote from: quickcrx702 on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:58:33
55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands

Don't get me wrong, my 45g is still a great board, but it's NOTHING compared to the 55g if you have heavy fingers. I rate the 45g barely above a Cherry Brown, and certainly not worth the premium, whereas the 55g is worth every penny. I don't even want to think about how much I would hate the 30g.

iri · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 01 March 2013, 02:35:30 »

Quote from: quickcrx702 on Fri, 01 March 2013, 01:26:48

Quote from: iri on Wed, 27 February 2013, 23:46:03
Quote from: quickcrx702 on Wed, 27 February 2013, 21:58:33
55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands

Don't get me wrong, my 45g is still a great board, but it's NOTHING compared to the 55g if you have heavy fingers. I rate the 45g barely above a Cherry Brown, and certainly not worth the premium, whereas the 55g is worth every penny. I don't even want to think about how much I would hate the 30g.

for those with light fingers, 45g boards are very nice. where on earth could you get a rubber dome board that light?

and i can't buy a new 55g anyways. it seems such boards are sold solely by ek, which doesn't ship to russia.

daerid · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 01 March 2013, 10:03:13 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:27:41

mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.

And don't hate because I bought a type-s

It's all good! Happy to see more Topre users, regardless.

My point though wasn't to say that the Type-S isn't that big of a difference, which it is, but more so that the HHKB is already super quiet compared to most boards, so I always wonder at the motivation to drop $130 for even MORE quiet.

But then again, I used to think it was crazy to drop more than $100 on a keyboard, and here I am with 3 boards that I paid around $300 a pop for. lol

Mainian · « **Reply #30 on:** Sat, 02 March 2013, 18:34:23 »

Quote from: daerid on Fri, 01 March 2013, 10:03:13

Quote from: Bro Caps on Thu, 28 February 2013, 11:27:41
mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.

And don't hate because I bought a type-s

It's all good! Happy to see more Topre users, regardless.

My point though wasn't to say that the Type-S isn't that big of a difference, which it is, but more so that the HHKB is already super quiet compared to most boards, so I always wonder at the motivation to drop $130 for even MORE quiet.

But then again, I used to think it was crazy to drop more than $100 on a keyboard, and here I am with 3 boards that I paid around $300 a pop for. lol

Now I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a HHKB or a realforce...

Edit: So many quote blocks.

orlando · « **Reply #31 on:** Sat, 02 March 2013, 19:10:38 »

Quote from: Mainian on Sat, 02 March 2013, 18:34:23

Now I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a HHKB or a realforce...

HHKB all the way!

I was debating the same thing 2 weeks ago with a friend, he ended getting the realforce I got the hhkb. After playing with the realforce and my hhkb I could not be happier with my purchase. If I were to buy another topre board I would go with another hhkb, the white version so I can swap keys

zoolzoo · « **Reply #32 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 09:41:55 »

Quote from: orlando on Sat, 02 March 2013, 19:10:38

Quote from: Mainian on Sat, 02 March 2013, 18:34:23

Now I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a HHKB or a realforce...

HHKB all the way!

I was debating the same thing 2 weeks ago with a friend, he ended getting the realforce I got the hhkb. After playing with the realforce and my hhkb I could not be happier with my purchase. If I were to buy another topre board I would go with another hhkb, the white version so I can swap keys

Why do you like it more?

daerid · « **Reply #33 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 11:58:14 »

You just gotta type on one. It's a magical experience. Hard to explain.

Mainian · « **Reply #34 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41 »

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 11:58:14

You just gotta type on one. It's a magical experience. Hard to explain.

Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

zoolzoo · « **Reply #35 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:40:15 »

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 11:58:14

You just gotta type on one. It's a magical experience. Hard to explain.

Topre in general or HHKB?

daerid · « **Reply #36 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:23:11 »

The HHKB

daerid · « **Reply #37 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:24:12 »

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41

Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio

zoolzoo · « **Reply #38 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 15:48:35 »

Hey Daerid...you should start a Topre tour with one of your boards!

Mainian · « **Reply #39 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 16:39:10 »

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:24:12

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41
Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio

Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.

zoolzoo · « **Reply #40 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 16:43:47 »

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 16:39:10

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:24:12
Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41
Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio

Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.

Doubt it

Mainian · « **Reply #41 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 17:27:15 »

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:24:12

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41
Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio

Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?

orlando · « **Reply #42 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 21:38:31 »

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 17:27:15

Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:24:12
Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41
Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio

Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?

I personally think the arrow keys are just fine, obviously not as convenient as having dedicated arrows but once you get used to using fn I find the arrow placement to be ideal. If however you are constantly using arrow keys for work / projects and have been for a long time I can see how the process of learning fn+arrow can be a pain.

Mainian · « **Reply #43 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 22:26:41 »

Quote from: orlando on Sun, 03 March 2013, 21:38:31

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 17:27:15
Quote from: daerid on Sun, 03 March 2013, 13:24:12
Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 12:08:41
Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.

Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio

Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?

I personally think the arrow keys are just fine, obviously not as convenient as having dedicated arrows but once you get used to using fn I find the arrow placement to be ideal. If however you are constantly using arrow keys for work / projects and have been for a long time I can see how the process of learning fn+arrow can be a pain.

Pretty decided that I'm going to be buying one pretty soon. Too bad the black with lettering is on back order on EK.

daerid · « **Reply #44 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 22:42:19 »

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 16:39:10

Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.

Hell no. I'm willing this thing to my kid, god damnit.

daerid · « **Reply #45 on:** Sun, 03 March 2013, 22:43:11 »

Quote from: Mainian on Sun, 03 March 2013, 17:27:15

Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?

No, I'm saying that with my work schedule and over a decade of muscle memory using the arrows + ins/del cluster it's not really feasible at this time for me to make the switch full time.

Quote from: zoolzoo on Sun, 03 March 2013, 15:48:35