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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #150 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:19:37 »
I was looking forward to these caps, too bad it won't happen now.

I do have to say though that this response probably didn't help if you wanted to argue your case with SP to try and get them to make it:

"If you haven't noticed yet, our intention was to copy totoro but we simply renamed it for obvious reasons."

You might have been able to argue for artistic differences and that it merely resembles it, it is not the likeness of it, if you hadn't said that.  Unless, of course, SP is like Youtube and just yanks it and doesn't really review cases.

From what I've seen/heard SP is exactly like YouTube.
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #151 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:22:04 »
From what I've seen/heard SP is exactly like YouTube.

That's unfortunate then.

Hopefully this doesn't put Keypop off for doing future GBs.  They are by far one of the most professional, prompt, and personable key cap companies I have bought from.  They were doing a fantastic job with this GB and I would love to buy from them in the future.

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:23:23 »
:( I was looking forward to these little guys arriving on my keyboard. I had a feeling it was one of those people on reddit since they seemed against the concept for some reason. I hope this doesn't affect possible future group buys from you guys! sorry to hear the bad news :(

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« Reply #153 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:24:07 »
From what I've seen/heard SP is exactly like YouTube.

That's unfortunate then.

Hopefully this doesn't put Keypop off for doing future GBs.  They are by far one of the most professional, prompt, and personable key cap companies I have bought from.  They were doing a fantastic job with this GB and I would love to buy from them in the future.

It's not that SP doesn't want to make these keycaps -- they could potentially be sued for mass-producing copyrighted material for financial gain. SP would be stupid not to decline. It's very understandable, but whoever reported it still a ****head.
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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:26:06 »
From what I've seen/heard SP is exactly like YouTube.

That's unfortunate then.

Hopefully this doesn't put Keypop off for doing future GBs.  They are by far one of the most professional, prompt, and personable key cap companies I have bought from.  They were doing a fantastic job with this GB and I would love to buy from them in the future.

It's not that SP doesn't want to make these keycaps -- they could potentially be sued for mass-producing copyrighted material for financial gain. SP would be stupid not to decline. It's very understandable, but whoever reported it still a ****head.

Guess this means no DragonBall Z Caps either.
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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #155 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 15:39:39 »

The main reason we named this design as "Toro" was because we wanted to create a design that was quite different than Totoro(no whisker,mouth,ears), yet maintain enough similarities so that people could recognize it. Unfortunately our design resembled Totoro too much.

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #156 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:05:12 »
/sigh...

IS there any chance of getting permissions from studio ghibli? You never know, they may acquiesce... if anything it would be free advertising.

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #157 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:07:28 »
Shame. Good luck with your endeavors if you choose to ask the studio.

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:13:42 »
Unfortunately Studio Ghibli is owned by Disney which is notorious for being stubborn and unwilling to cooperate

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« Reply #159 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:15:22 »
And that's why SP sux

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« Reply #160 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:20:02 »
And that's why SP sux
Its not SP's fault as we fully understand their position on this. We're just very irked that someone would go as far as reporting us.
To be honest the image doesnt resemble totoro very much but its of no use now

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:25:50 »
Ugh... Well that settles it... we need to go buy our own injection molding machines.

BTW, you could always try firing off an email to Disney and see what they say. Nothing to lose =/

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« Reply #162 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:40:11 »
Haters gonna hate.

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[CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:46:54 »
Weak...,I'm sad now
I've got people to disappoint, I got mistakes to make.
How can you believe that I'm not a waste of space?
Oh I'm sorry to disappoint, I seldom save face.
But how can I speak your language
when I don't know my own....

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:49:16 »
i am actually considering self harm as a solution

some people really do have sad pathetic little lives

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #165 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:49:41 »
Very sorry to hear :(

Guess there is not much you can do at this point. Still appreciating the effort that went into this.
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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #166 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:56:33 »
Guys, it was me. Stealing is bad, mmkay. You wouldn't download a catbus.
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« Reply #167 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:57:39 »
Guys, it was me. Stealing is bad, mmkay. You wouldn't download a catbus.
I would.
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« Reply #168 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:58:11 »
Yeah, me too. What was I thinking!?
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« Reply #169 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 17:10:51 »
Unfortunately Studio Ghibli is owned by Disney which is notorious for being stubborn and unwilling to cooperate

Just a note as a Disney underling myself: Disney produces the English dubs and owns the US distribution of some of Studio Ghibli's films.  They don't own the studio.

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« Reply #170 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 17:11:31 »
Eugh. Shame.

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #171 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 17:22:54 »
Unfortunately Studio Ghibli is owned by Disney which is notorious for being stubborn and unwilling to cooperate

Just a note as a Disney underling myself: Disney produces the English dubs and owns the US distribution of some of Studio Ghibli's films.  They don't own the studio.

My mistake. We fully support SP's decision and we do agree fullheartedly that we shot ourselves in the foot here but the act itself was just so offputting.
We already had invested a considerable amount of money into shipping supplies and are now left with quite a surplus.
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« Reply #172 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 17:26:01 »
Nokcha - I sent a solution to your inbox on Keypop ;)

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« Reply #173 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 17:27:09 »
Nokcha - I sent a solution to your inbox on Keypop ;)

Much thanks!

Quick Update: We'll be investigating different options towards producing these. We'll give an update later this week.

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« Reply #174 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 17:30:47 »
Nokcha - I sent a solution to your inbox on Keypop ;)

Much thanks!

Quick Update: We'll be investigating different options towards producing these. We'll give an update later this week.

i was just about to order your smiley set to replace all the toros i was ordering

hmmm

what to do now

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« Reply #177 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 18:22:57 »
Show Image

LOL This is so appropriate.

Wait, did Toby come back?

Also, this really sucks. Any chance since we had such a high MOQ that we could move this over to GMK? I was really looking forward to several 50cent keys!

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« Reply #178 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:12:27 »
Wow, this is just sad  :(
   

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« Reply #179 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:15:57 »
Wait, did Toby come back?

Also, this really sucks. Any chance since we had such a high MOQ that we could move this over to GMK? I was really looking forward to several 50cent keys!

Probably the same thing with GMK, but why not have Imsto make them. I'm sure he has plenty of white blank Thick PBT R4 caps :)

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« Reply #180 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:28:38 »
:( I was looking forward to these little guys arriving on my keyboard. I had a feeling it was one of those people on reddit since they seemed against the concept for some reason. I hope this doesn't affect possible future group buys from you guys! sorry to hear the bad news :(
Reddit is kind of a hateful community. Especially anything involving geekhack. All the ripster hate propaganda kinda sets the mood for them. It was probably a redditor just because numerously more people read reddit.
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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #181 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:36:50 »
This sucks, i was really looking forward to this. Keypop is still awesome for putting this together; looking forward to any future creations you have.
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Re: Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #182 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:38:16 »
Reddit is kind of a hateful community. Especially anything involving geekhack. All the ripster hate propaganda kinda sets the mood for them. It was probably a redditor just because numerously more people read reddit.

It sucks that it became that way.  Many communities used to be very friendly and helpful. Oh well.

Ripster does like to tease GeekHack, but I wouldn't call it propoganda.  He does like to tease about the $250 Esc key and how it seems like the key cap sections get the most action.

It looks like the two group buys I was really looking forward to aren't going to happen now.  I was really looking forward to the CMYK caps, but the MOQ for eveything in that set is not even close to being met.
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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #183 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:40:44 »
...Wow.

So there's no way these caps are ever going to be made?...

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #184 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:43:28 »
copyright is copyright :/

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« Reply #185 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 19:55:40 »
:( I was looking forward to these little guys arriving on my keyboard. I had a feeling it was one of those people on reddit since they seemed against the concept for some reason. I hope this doesn't affect possible future group buys from you guys! sorry to hear the bad news :(
Reddit is kind of a hateful community. Especially anything involving geekhack. All the ripster hate propaganda kinda sets the mood for them. It was probably a redditor just because numerously more people read reddit.

>Ripster propaganda

Ah, yes...Let's blame Ripster for everything
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« Reply #186 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 20:24:03 »
:( I was looking forward to these little guys arriving on my keyboard. I had a feeling it was one of those people on reddit since they seemed against the concept for some reason. I hope this doesn't affect possible future group buys from you guys! sorry to hear the bad news :(
Reddit is kind of a hateful community. Especially anything involving geekhack. All the ripster hate propaganda kinda sets the mood for them. It was probably a redditor just because numerously more people read reddit.

>Ripster propaganda

Ah, yes...Let's blame Ripster for everything

It's fairly easy to lay reddit geekhack hate at his feet with what he posts.

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #187 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 20:27:25 »
No . F* copyright @@

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« Reply #188 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:04:41 »
Yes, f protecting creators of content.  I whole-heartedly agree with that.

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« Reply #189 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:34:41 »

Probably the same thing with GMK, but why not have Imsto make them. I'm sure he has plenty of white blank Thick PBT R4 caps :)

I was looking forward to keypop's GB as much as everyone ... I still want a forest Toro :(

I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but umm ... not sure when this happened ...

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.16.xMZt3M&id=17559990119&

I'm guessing this may be the dyesub option keypop mentioned.


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« Reply #190 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:36:34 »

I was looking forward to keypop's GB as much as everyone ... I still want a forest Toro :(

I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but umm ... not sure when this happened ...

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.16.xMZt3M&id=17559990119&

I'm guessing this may be the dyesub option keypop mentioned.

They've been in Imsto's store for at least a week. TBH, I totally thought these were going to be Imsto caps from the get go.

Edit - Perhaps this is a super early April fools joke

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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #191 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:26:47 »

Probably the same thing with GMK, but why not have Imsto make them. I'm sure he has plenty of white blank Thick PBT R4 caps :)

I was looking forward to keypop's GB as much as everyone ... I still want a forest Toro :(

I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but umm ... not sure when this happened ...

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.16.xMZt3M&id=17559990119&

I'm guessing this may be the dyesub option keypop mentioned.

This is strange.. Imsto never contacted me about the use of our image. We haven't even contacted him yet.

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« Reply #192 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:34:14 »
I feel like this is some good irony.

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« Reply #193 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:36:33 »
I feel like this is some good irony.

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« Reply #194 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:37:59 »
I feel like this is some good irony.

Indeed


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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #195 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:43:22 »
This is giving me a headache -_-
We're just going to cancel the group buy indefinitely.
Sorry guys.

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Re: Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #196 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:58:12 »
This is giving me a headache -_-
We're just going to cancel the group buy indefinitely.
Sorry guys.
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« Reply #197 on: Mon, 25 March 2013, 23:59:48 »
Chinese counterfeiters win again
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Re: [CANCELLED]"Toro" Groupbuy [Hosted by KeyPop.net]
« Reply #198 on: Tue, 26 March 2013, 00:04:24 »
Although we aren't in any position to argue it's extremely discouraging to see that imsto used our groupbuy and images(which I actually made myself) to produce the keycaps without our permission.

Truly irony at its best. Not sure if we'd like to do any more groupbuys if this will occur each time we start one.

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« Reply #199 on: Tue, 26 March 2013, 00:13:53 »
You think he is the one who blew the whistle?