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Offline raymogi

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18250 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:21:23 »

Was browsing the Clack wiki and have always wanted to ask, is the GH skull 1 of 1?
there are (at least) two, synjin and naasfu each have one last i saw.

Well there goes my chance of ever owning one :D
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18251 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:23:31 »

Was browsing the Clack wiki and have always wanted to ask, is the GH skull 1 of 1?
there are (at least) two, synjin and naasfu each have one last i saw.

Well there goes my chance of ever owning one :D

You'll just have to interrogate them to post photos like the rest of us :)


EDIT: Anyone know how many Terminator skulls are out there?

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18252 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:23:39 »


Was browsing the Clack wiki and have always wanted to ask, is the GH skull 1 of 1?
there are (at least) two, synjin and naasfu each have one last i saw.

Well there goes my chance of ever owning one :D

Don't give up yet! There's a chance this years CV will have some :)

Offline raymogi

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18253 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:25:00 »



Was browsing the Clack wiki and have always wanted to ask, is the GH skull 1 of 1?
there are (at least) two, synjin and naasfu each have one last i saw.

Well there goes my chance of ever owning one :D

Don't give up yet! There's a chance this years CV will have some :)

Considering my luck, and the nature of Clackvents, I highly doubt I will get one haha.
Please feed my addiction.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18254 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:26:47 »



Was browsing the Clack wiki and have always wanted to ask, is the GH skull 1 of 1?
there are (at least) two, synjin and naasfu each have one last i saw.

Well there goes my chance of ever owning one :D

Don't give up yet! There's a chance this years CV will have some :)

Considering my luck, and the nature of Clackvents, I highly doubt I will get one haha.

At least there will be plenty of unlucky people to be unlucky with. Heck, I'll go ahead and say we can be unlucky together.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18255 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:27:55 »
Let's all just pray, for girl shark grey!

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18256 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:29:01 »



Was browsing the Clack wiki and have always wanted to ask, is the GH skull 1 of 1?
there are (at least) two, synjin and naasfu each have one last i saw.

Well there goes my chance of ever owning one :D

Don't give up yet! There's a chance this years CV will have some :)

Considering my luck, and the nature of Clackvents, I highly doubt I will get one haha.

At least there will be plenty of unlucky people to be unlucky with. Heck, I'll go ahead and say we can be unlucky together.

Is this the equivalent of a 'I have no one to hang around with during new years club'? if so I'm in  :-[

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18257 on: Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:35:10 »
EDIT: Anyone know how many Terminator skulls are out there?
four-ish? synjin, naasfu, binary, and eth0s (not sure if he still has one) i think.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18258 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 01:56:14 »
It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Offline DanielT

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18259 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:04:31 »
It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...
Indeed ...
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18260 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:04:53 »
It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18261 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:13:23 »
It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

Ahh, but who else has one?

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18262 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:17:58 »
It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

Ahh, but who else has one?

Only the collector as far as I know :) If you didn't know who had the clacks you want how would you ask them to trade ;)

@Raymogi I too want a GH skull so badly, such a great colourway but I don't think anyone is letting go of that so we just have to hope for some new ones.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18263 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:27:50 »
It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

Ahh, but who else has one?

Only the collector as far as I know :) If you didn't know who had the clacks you want how would you ask them to trade ;)


I could've sword 2 went out last Clackvent.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18264 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:42:31 »
Could be but I don't think I ever saw or heard of another one but with caps like that people can be quite secretive to avoid inbox overload :)

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18265 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 03:30:42 »

It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18266 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 03:38:36 »

It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

I think you have wonderful HOs :)
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18267 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 03:39:12 »
my inbox is always empty! i think people are afraid of INTL trade, lol
 

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18268 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 03:58:24 »

It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18269 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:00:16 »


It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D

You just gotta be a lovely pimp and you'll attract plenty a HO;)

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18270 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:03:25 »


It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D

You just gotta be a lovely pimp and you'll attract plenty a HO;)
I try to up my pimp game, but just can't seem to recruit more than one HO.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18271 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:05:46 »
my inbox is always empty! i think people are afraid of INTL trade, lol

I'm not, seeing as how most of my trades and sales are international anyway.

I just don't have any money or anything to trade :p
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18272 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 05:52:59 »



It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D

You just gotta be a lovely pimp and you'll attract plenty a HO;)
I try to up my pimp game, but just can't seem to recruit more than one HO.
I tried to pimp too but all I attracted are different blues!
 

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18273 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 05:56:33 »



It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D

You just gotta be a lovely pimp and you'll attract plenty a HO;)
I try to up my pimp game, but just can't seem to recruit more than one HO.
I tried to pimp too but all I attracted are different blues!
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My goodness dat Inviro.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18274 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 05:58:44 »



It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D

You just gotta be a lovely pimp and you'll attract plenty a HO;)
I try to up my pimp game, but just can't seem to recruit more than one HO.
I tried to pimp too but all I attracted are different blues!
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18275 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:00:43 »



It's a little disturbing people know exactly who has what clacks...

Whatever spumoni.

I love people knowing about my HOS, can't get enough of them!

First time I saw a pic of all your HO's, I thought it was a photoshoped pic.

Wish I had that many HO's   ;D

You just gotta be a lovely pimp and you'll attract plenty a HO;)
I try to up my pimp game, but just can't seem to recruit more than one HO.
I tried to pimp too but all I attracted are different blues!
Show Image


Nice collection Belfong. Can't imagine how long it took you to collect those!

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18276 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:17:16 »
I tried to pimp too but all I attracted are different blues!
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18277 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:27:16 »
I tried to pimp too but all I attracted are different blues!
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Same thing went through my head 'if I was green I would die (Da Ba Dee Da Ba Die)'  :p

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18278 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 07:23:40 »
@Bevo - took a long time and lots of nail biting moment, hoping the keys don’t get lost in transit. I think shipping probably cost me a fortune in this hobby!
 

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18279 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 09:39:36 »
Getting on the ClickClack Hype Train!

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18280 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 11:55:10 »
Tonight is probably the only night I'll be up late due to Giants game. Unless he decides to do something daytime weekend, I'm pretty sure I'm boned on clackvent.

That is okay, though. Hoping I win 420 and I think I posted a bit in the flux thread even though I never typed what 209384092790 people typed.

You were actually the top poster in the Flux thread, I did the tally  :-[

1. absyrd      29
2. Glenmael   27
3. romevi      21
3. rowdy      21
4. SamirD      13
5?. nubbinator   11

I had no idea I posted that much as well  :eek:

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That's only if my method was correct:
Hit the 'print' button on the thread, search for 'Post by: ', grab all the  'Post by: 's, filter in excel, tally it up.

Well, I'm not anywhere in that list. But I do have a fairly high post count on the forum in general. So, I hate to burst you guys' bubble, but yeah, it was forum post count that Mr. Clackman was referring to.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18281 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 11:57:37 »
I hate to burst you guys' bubble, but yeah, it was forum post count that Mr. Clackman was referring to.



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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18282 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:00:37 »
Tonight is probably the only night I'll be up late due to Giants game. Unless he decides to do something daytime weekend, I'm pretty sure I'm boned on clackvent.

That is okay, though. Hoping I win 420 and I think I posted a bit in the flux thread even though I never typed what 209384092790 people typed.

You were actually the top poster in the Flux thread, I did the tally  :-[

1. absyrd      29
2. Glenmael   27
3. romevi      21
3. rowdy      21
4. SamirD      13
5?. nubbinator   11

I had no idea I posted that much as well  :eek:

~Edit:
That's only if my method was correct:
Hit the 'print' button on the thread, search for 'Post by: ', grab all the  'Post by: 's, filter in excel, tally it up.

Well, I'm not anywhere in that list. But I do have a fairly high post count on the forum in general. So, I hate to burst you guys' bubble, but yeah, it was forum post count that Mr. Clackman was referring to.

Well, you know him better than we do. I guess it made more sense to do it the thread-count instead of global post-count as doing it the latter would take more work and could have someone rig the system. Unless CC counted it immediately after closing the thread, I can theoretically post any number of replies and rack up a good amount, having a large number of posts in a short amount of time, all the while hoping CC hasn't counted yet.
Having a high post count indicates that CC wanted the Keypacitors to go to old members anyway, so, in that case, why create a thread about it? Seems more fun to have participation in one thread count as something than nothing.

But, like I said, you know him better than we do and maybe there's something else you know that we don't.
Or you're just messin' with us.
Or all of the above.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18283 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:11:44 »
maybe there's something else you know that we don't.

hmmmm....
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18284 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:25:57 »

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18285 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:26:43 »

maybe there's something else you know that we don't.

hmmmm....

Well the window has closed.
I'm back.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18286 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:29:25 »

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18287 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:42:04 »
i need an adult.
a cute stray cat combination that comes out happily when you look at your face is cute

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18288 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:42:33 »
And so it begins...

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18289 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:43:00 »
And so it begins...

I don't count for that one. Let's see if the others get some action.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18290 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:43:02 »
Damn thought that might be how it was going to work :(

Offline justify

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18291 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:44:02 »
Email sent, I am really hyped that I might just have gotten into my first ever clack sale!

Offline o3okevin

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18292 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:45:06 »
LF> Friday Jr. MX

So much regret not getting in....

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18293 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:45:53 »
Emailed at 18:42

1, 2 and 3 look sick
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18294 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:46:02 »
Someone please buy me a quesyrot! I will be very greatful and will pay. 
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Offline strict

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18295 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:46:54 »
Very sad that I could not participate since I didnt post in that thread :/ lol

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Offline whmeltonjr

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18296 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:47:31 »
RIP

Offline heedpantsnow

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18297 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:47:54 »
Good luck, people. I never posted in the original sale, so I'm out.
I'm back.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18298 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:48:37 »
That Ogre.

I will get that Ogre.
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Offline romevi

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #18299 on: Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:48:47 »
Emailed at 18:42

1, 2 and 3 look sick

I thought you weren't into the whole artisan game, potek.