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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:01:14 »
I'd much rather a west coast meetup, there's actually things to do there.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:01:39 »
whoa whoa whoa..

you're really giving cali **** when you went to chicago? home of homicide?

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:18:49 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:22:42 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH

Including Self Defence 101 - How To Defend Yourself Against A Raging Bear Armed Only With A Model M?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:23:05 »
I fear that if we start attaching "KeyCon" to everything (like I did earlier. oops.), it could water down the big gathering concept.  The community could do a couple things on a larger scale every year that brings together presentations, speakers, promotions, folks flying in from all over the country.   But I am wary about getting too ambitious too quickly.

Ideas for smaller meets:

KeyMeet
KeyRally
KeyPowWow
KeyGet (Together)
KeyAss(embly)
You forgot the most important one.
KeyCamp

KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH

Including Self Defence 101 - How To Defend Yourself Against A Raging Bear Armed Only With A Model M?

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:25:17 »
Is kmiller going to teach us how to start a fire by banging two clacks together?
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:34:18 »
Is kmiller going to teach us how to start a fire by banging two clacks together?

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"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 23:49:23 »
My vote would be let people organise smaller meet ups by state or whatever.  For the larger "KeyCon" events my vote would be to rotate the venue between central, east coast, west coast.  This way each region gets a Keycon.  Or you could do it every 6 months and then each region gets one every 18.  Personal suggestions for locations would be larger cities that have very busy airports just due to the fact that there is more competition for airfare, hotels, and actual venues which will help prices.  IE Chicago, Vegas, New York.  Again just my 2 caps worth.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:51:21 »
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KeyCamp is going to be the 3-day weekend overnight bootcamp that I hold at the local state forest to introduce newbs to all things keyboards. 
WOAH
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Including Self Defence 101 - How To Defend Yourself Against A Raging Bear Armed Only With A Model M?
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I'm already dreaming up other sessions:

-How to roast your rubber domes over the fire and turn them into a tasty great
-The importance of mechanical keyboards in a survival situation
-How to explain your keyboard addiction friends, family and co-workers
-Methods for trapping and taming keyboards in the wild
-Composing keyboard campfire songs and sharing legends
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:57:23 »
We should also include blindfolded keyboard assembly. Fastest person wins a new keyboard or some other prize.

Also I rather like how the system works now. Informal meets + a few more official meets. I've probably done one real meetup (Keycon and Chicago - March/April 2013) and then did like 4-5 smaller meetups (three people or less). And I do love that we have larger meets in larger cities. Chicago was a blast.
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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:59:48 »
We should also include blindfolded keyboard assembly. Fastest person wins a new keyboard or some other prize.

Also I rather like how the system works now. Informal meets + a few more official meets. I've probably done one real meetup (Keycon and Chicago - March/April 2013) and then did like 4-5 smaller meetups (three people or less). And I do love that we have larger meets in larger cities. Chicago was a blast.

You could also have 'blindfolded' guess what switch etc this is.....I'm sure some people are 'good' enough to get it right!

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:01:41 »
i like the CES idea, but i have to check with vendors who DO exhibit at CES to see whether their CES teardown would actually prevent them from attending (weird, i know, but convention logistics are weird)

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:03:11 »
I just like the idea of someone holding a 700 F iron while blindfolded, trying to solder a keyboard together.

Also, WE CAN GO TO CES AND BE BOOTH BABES FOR COOLERMASTER MKAWA??
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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:04:10 »
I just like the idea of someone holding a 700 F iron while blindfolded, trying to solder a keyboard together.

Also, WE CAN GO TO CES AND BE BOOTH BABES FOR COOLERMASTER MKAWA??

I bet mkawa solders blindfolded just for fun.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:16:32 »
Also, for the purpose of a central meeting location, we should hold KeyCons at one of the geographic centers of the US.

Geographic center of Lower 48: near Lebanon, Kansas.
Geographic center of all fifty states:  northeast of Belle Forche, South Dakota
Geographic center of North America: Rugby, North Dakota (an Amtrak stop.  Doable!)
Mean center of US population:  Texas County, Missouri

I hear the Dakotas in February are just exceptional.

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« Reply #65 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:19:01 »
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:25:46 »
LOL.  Another smallish club I am in has had national meetups every year since the 90s.  The convention with by-far the worst turn out was located in Topeka, Kansas.  This was done to appease the left-coasters, who always complained that the con was too far.  Ironically, it had the lowest number of West-coast members.  The conventions with the highest turn outs have been located in IL, MI, IN, and OH.

My point is that geographic centrality does not yield better turn-outs, because it is far from everybody.  Rotating it around is probably the best option.
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« Reply #67 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:31:45 »
you actually have to take not raw geographic centers (ie, simple embedding into 2-space) but warp the geometry to reflect population density. and that doesn't take into account the weird costs of travel due to tourist destinations subsidizing things etc. etc. etc. etc.



etc.

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« Reply #68 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:24:09 »
LOL.  Another smallish club I am in has had national meetups every year since the 90s.  The convention with by-far the worst turn out was located in Topeka, Kansas.  This was done to appease the left-coasters, who always complained that the con was too far.  Ironically, it had the lowest number of West-coast members.  The conventions with the highest turn outs have been located in IL, MI, IN, and OH.

My point is that geographic centrality does not yield better turn-outs, because it is far from everybody.  Rotating it around is probably the best option.
IN Keycon please.  Indianapolis is literally a perfect convention city.

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« Reply #69 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:26:46 »
If we were to do a cooler time of year, Dallas would be a decent option as well.  Plenty of places to organize a great con experience and decent after-party options as well.  But anyone not used to heat would melt if we did it this time of year

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« Reply #70 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:37:46 »
If we were to do a cooler time of year, Dallas would be a decent option as well.  Plenty of places to organize a great con experience and decent after-party options as well.  But anyone not used to heat would melt if we did it this time of year

I agree with this.  Texas is an awesome place to visit, especially in winter for those of us from the snowy regions, and I'm not an expert on the area but Dallas has to have big convention locations.  All three of the major cities in Texas would be great, and Dallas is geographically better perhaps.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:40:55 »
you actually have to take not raw geographic centers (ie, simple embedding into 2-space) but warp the geometry to reflect population density. and that doesn't take into account the weird costs of travel due to tourist destinations subsidizing things etc. etc. etc. etc.



etc.

I threw in Texas County, Missouri, for this reason.  Branson, here I come!
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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 13:38:24 »
so.... Denver? lol
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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 13:43:20 »
LOL.  Another smallish club I am in has had national meetups every year since the 90s.  The convention with by-far the worst turn out was located in Topeka, Kansas.  This was done to appease the left-coasters, who always complained that the con was too far.  Ironically, it had the lowest number of West-coast members.  The conventions with the highest turn outs have been located in IL, MI, IN, and OH.

My point is that geographic centrality does not yield better turn-outs, because it is far from everybody.  Rotating it around is probably the best option.
IN Keycon please.  Indianapolis is literally a perfect convention city.

MKULTRA is somewhat correct in this.  Indianapolis hosts tons of big sports events and conventions Every year.  Hotels, restuarants, entertainment, and convention space are all very compact in the downtown area.  Hotels and meals and such will be cheaper than bigger cities.

However, transport from the airport is basically taxi only, direct flights from many cities are expensive or non-existent, it's friendlier for larger gatherings, and, well, it's Indianapolis, doing its best to crawl out from underneath the shadow of Chicago.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 19:58:22 »
CES isn't open to the public.
what i am trying to suggest is to find out what events that <keyboard_vendor_you_want_to_see> will be attending and try to have a "keycon" the weekend before or after. that way the vendor can have a presence at our event without it costing much. a workable event might be a computer gaming contest or industry meeting.

it doesn't matter that CES is not open to the public. what does matter is that many keyboard manufacturers from all over the world will be in Las Vegas that week.

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:10:06 »
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lets do this

I like this idea, but raise it this:


Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 
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« Reply #76 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:16:42 »
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lets do this

I like this idea, but raise it this:
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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 

ONLY if after we go to lego land!

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:22:57 »
And it'll be during the summer right? RIGHT?

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« Reply #78 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 22:25:42 »
Next event needs an equal amount of CPTBadAss though :D
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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 07:50:19 »
Somewhere in the E.U. ??
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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 07:59:52 »
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lets do this

I like this idea, but raise it this:
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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 
feb is definitely an out of season month for SD, but as you know, even out of season, things can be expensive there. also, it's that much more driving/flying for the norcal folks.

it could be an option though, as i have many strings to pull to get us a large awesome conf room in sd, and i know exactly which beaches we can chill on after the con.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:21:20 »
Setting a date early is key for me.  If I can get something on my calendar 4-6 months in advance, I can schedule according.  (And any "in stone" conflicts will be known that far in advance as well)

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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:23:54 »
yea, put me down for KC14!...just need to know a couple of months in advance
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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 11:59:16 »
I will be making the effort to go to the next one as well. I didn't realize what the first one was about (stupid not reading...) until it was too late.

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:49:09 »
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lets do this

I like this idea, but raise it this:
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Yes, I live here, but there are so many other reasons:  airport is downtown, awesome weather, awesome food/drinks (Gaslamp quarter), tons of lodging, many great places to hold the event. 
feb is definitely an out of season month for SD, but as you know, even out of season, things can be expensive there. also, it's that much more driving/flying for the norcal folks.

it could be an option though, as i have many strings to pull to get us a large awesome conf room in sd, and i know exactly which beaches we can chill on after the con.

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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:04:57 »
I like the idea of rotating between east, west, and central locations.  At least until we get a sense of what works and produces good turn-out.  I don't think we should do it more often than say every 9 months.  Local meet-ups are one thing, but we want KeyCon™ to be special.  I'm also totally down with paying to get in if it means better venues and more interesting things to do and see.

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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:06:01 »
I like the idea of rotating between east, west, and central locations.  At least until we get a sense of what works and produces good turn-out.  I don't think we should do it more often than say every 9 months.  Local meet-ups are one thing, but we want KeyCon™ to be special.  I'm also totally down with paying to get in if it means better venues and more interesting things to do and see.

If we were able to pull off a big event every year, that would be quite a feat. Attempting to do two per year is overkill.

One annual conference would be easier to plan for (both for organizers and for the attendees) and easier to get vendor support if we're only hitting them up once a year. I really like the idea of rotating the location though. This year was Chicago, next year California, and then 2015 is in New York, for example.  For the conferences that I participate in for my day job, that's what they do both on the State level and the National level and it works quite well.

We should be planning at least 9 months out if we're doing a "big" conference, so to do more than one per year is a big commitment to whomever is planning it. Why? Because you'll be constantly planning as they will overlap. You'll be running the spring conference while trying to commit people to the fall conference. That's a lot to ask.

I know there is a lot of excitement over the first one and we're all eager for another (myself included), but I think meet-ups will work better between conferences, rather than attempting to do two conferences per year. Not to mention that I love how laid back and relaxed a meet-up can be. It's a whole different vibe and much more one-on-one than a full Con.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:14:40 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:19:34 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?

That's bananas. You're describing a logistical nightmare that makes me want to run into the woods screaming.  :p


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)

If the only event that you could ever attend is in Chicago then moving locations would never work for you regardless.

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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:27:30 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?

That's bananas. You're describing a logistical nightmare that makes me want to run into the woods screaming.  :p


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)

If the only event that you could ever attend is in Chicago then moving locations would never work for you regardless.

Chicago works, but so does the WI, IL, MI, MN area...
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:31:53 »
If it's possible, why not have all 3 at the same time but then have a webcam/TV broadcasting to the other 2 cons?


Honestly, 3 years between events is a long time (I don't really plan on going to a NYC or Cali meetup, I'd love to, but I don't think I could)

From your point of view, it should be a wash.  Let me explain:

Scenario 1 - Rotate - Every 3 years you get to meetup with some seriously cool people from all across the nation.  Sprinkle in some local meetups in the off years and that means you get to hang out with local people all three years and some other great people once every three years. (and view non-locals on webcam two out of three years)

Scenario 2 - Separate Events - Every year you get to meetup at KeyCon, but it will be mostly local people because there are regional KeyCons all at the same time.  You get to view non-locals via webcam, but that's more or less your only interaction with them ever. 

So in Scenario 2 you get to attend more "KeyCon"s, but I think your overall meetup experience is worse than in Scenario 1 where you attend every three KeyCons but still meetup with locals in off years.

Just trying to make you not feel bad about it.  :)

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:34:39 »
Well I didn't go this year cause it's not so easy to time a 12h ride with a family, but I think that if I have to stay at the hotel and all, it would be much nicer if it was at a place with some touristic interest. Then I could bring my GF and stay a few days to justify all the travel.

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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:37:53 »
YES, LET'S DO IT IN PLATTSBURGH. 518 REPRESENT.

Oh, and I think I'm not really helping with this discussion. I'm more of a "Have keyboards, will travel" type of guy. I do like the rotating cities thing. Keycon 2015 is in NYC etc. But that's just because I can afford and love to travel. Not everyone is in the same position I'm in.
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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:41:14 »
But that's just because I can afford and love to travel. Not everyone is ballin' out of control.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:26:01 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.
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« Reply #95 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 13:28:42 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 
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« Reply #96 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 13:42:32 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 

Is it the gambling/booze/hookers?

'cuz I'm willing to skip bible camp if it is.
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« Reply #97 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:05:02 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 

Is it the gambling/booze/hookers?

'cuz I'm willing to skip bible camp if it is.

Lol, I did not even think of those reasons.  I never gambled during the year+ I lived in the state, just struck me as a waste of time and money.   And prostitution is such an ingrained part of the Nevada culture, I don't even think twice about it.
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« Reply #98 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 17:39:58 »
Mashby once again is making some good arguments.  I agree.

Most of my posts in this thread have been facetious, but in all seriousness, I support a swing at a Vegas winter gathering at some point.  You can get some cheap rates at downtown hotels rather than the gaudy Main Strip hotels, easy flights from smaller towns (Hello Allegiant!), Cirque shows, some great outdoor spots, and I lived there for 6 months so I know a few good local spots.

Over the next couple years, I am sure we will experiment with bigger gatherings in different parts of the country and find a system that works out.  We might have to restrain our attempts to create too many large gatherings.  But the enthusiasm is strong, and that's a great sign.

Also I just realized that I list the obvious reasons why anybody has a convention in Vegas. 

Is it the gambling/booze/hookers?

'cuz I'm willing to skip bible camp if it is.

Lol, I did not even think of those reasons.  I never gambled during the year+ I lived in the state, just struck me as a waste of time and money.   And prostitution is such an ingrained part of the Nevada culture, I don't even think twice about it.

Dang.  I guess it's bible camp for me then.
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Re: KeyCon 2014?
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 22 August 2013, 20:22:44 »
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