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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:23:15 »
there is also the direct source for the teensy, its the most expensive option for them but i've ordered 2 from them before and they were really quick shipping them out.

http://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html
or with the pins http://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy_pins.html

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« Reply #51 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:33:02 »
there is also the direct source for the teensy, its the most expensive option for them but i've ordered 2 from them before and they were really quick shipping them out.

http://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html
or with the pins http://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy_pins.html

We'll try to have the 18 we get in sell for less than PJRC after shipping.  Shipping is really where PJRC gets a little pricey.  The board itself is only $2 - $3 more than the 100+ qty GB.  I think a bubble-wrapped 1st Class Envelope is more than sufficient (I don't say this often) for shipping the Teeensy.  I believe PJRC's cheapest option is Priority Mail. 
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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 19:18:17 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?

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« Reply #53 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 19:46:25 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?
what's wrong with the pcb?

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« Reply #54 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 20:00:45 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?

The new white ones? I haven't soldered one yet, what issues are you having?
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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 20:19:22 »
can believe i didn't see this thread before, i had to pick one up, couldn't resist :) now i need to decide if i want to do browns or ergo clears.

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« Reply #56 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 07:14:15 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?

The new white ones? I haven't soldered one yet, what issues are you having?

More just quality control issues ie: scratches, blobs of paint (I think it's paint), exposed traces, scratches etc.

Not sure if these have any bearing on the boards functionality just wondering if some blemishes should be expected or if these are just duds.

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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:06:40 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?

The new white ones? I haven't soldered one yet, what issues are you having?

More just quality control issues ie: scratches, blobs of paint (I think it's paint), exposed traces, scratches etc.

Not sure if these have any bearing on the boards functionality just wondering if some blemishes should be expected or if these are just duds.


Can you post pics?

Your PCB was the only one we've received complaints about to date.  Very odd that you would receive 2 'duds' when no one else has reported any issues.  Don't buy a lottery ticket anytime soon ;)

I know Josh made sure to triple check the second we sent out to you to make sure it was perfect. What kind of issues are you having with it / can you post pics?
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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:09:11 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?

The new white ones? I haven't soldered one yet, what issues are you having?

More just quality control issues ie: scratches, blobs of paint (I think it's paint), exposed traces, scratches etc.

Not sure if these have any bearing on the boards functionality just wondering if some blemishes should be expected or if these are just duds.


Can you post pics?

Your PCB was the only one we've received complaints about to date.  Very odd that you would receive 2 'duds' when no one else has reported any issues.  Don't buy a lottery ticket anytime soon ;)

I know Josh made sure to triple check the second we sent out to you to make sure it was perfect. What kind of issues are you having with it / can you post pics?

I've sent Josh an email

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« Reply #59 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:15:26 »
To be fair, I only opened one of the three Phantom PCBs I ordered and received, but I didn't notice any problems like Ray mentioned. I will check my other two when I get home this evening.
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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:16:15 »
Is anyone else having any issues with the quality of their PCB's?

The new white ones? I haven't soldered one yet, what issues are you having?

More just quality control issues ie: scratches, blobs of paint (I think it's paint), exposed traces, scratches etc.

Not sure if these have any bearing on the boards functionality just wondering if some blemishes should be expected or if these are just duds.


Can you post pics?

Your PCB was the only one we've received complaints about to date.  Very odd that you would receive 2 'duds' when no one else has reported any issues.  Don't buy a lottery ticket anytime soon ;)

I know Josh made sure to triple check the second we sent out to you to make sure it was perfect. What kind of issues are you having with it / can you post pics?

Posting pics is up to Moz but I will if he doesn't care.

And I will add the second was packaged and shipped completely different than the first. But these anomalies would have been present before shipping. All I did was open box remove pcb and take pics.

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« Reply #61 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:23:25 »
Pics of the anomalies would be great if you or Moz can post them. :D

This is our first time dealing with raw PCBs. The quality seemed superb to everyone here, but we may just not be looking in the right place apparently. 
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« Reply #62 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:40:38 »
Pics of the anomalies would be great if you or Moz can post them. :D

This is our first time dealing with raw PCBs. The quality seemed superb to everyone here, but we may just not be looking in the right place apparently. 

I sent you a PM.

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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 14:17:13 »
Pics of the anomalies would be great if you or Moz can post them. :D

This is our first time dealing with raw PCBs. The quality seemed superb to everyone here, but we may just not be looking in the right place apparently. 

I sent you a PM.

Got the pics! Certainly not a shipping issue.  This will help us do a much better job of catching any problems before shipping them out! Thanks!

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 14:21:59 »
Pics of the anomalies would be great if you or Moz can post them. :D

This is our first time dealing with raw PCBs. The quality seemed superb to everyone here, but we may just not be looking in the right place apparently. 

I sent you a PM.

Got the pics! Certainly not a shipping issue.  This will help us do a much better job of catching any problems before shipping them out! Thanks!

New one heading your way!

Thanks!

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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 10 September 2013, 18:35:38 »
just got my phantom and ergo dox pcb today.
one of my phantom pcb got some scratches on it, but no big deal.
all of the ergo dox pcb are in really good condition.

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 09:07:38 »
The PCB manufacturer contacted me today to explain.  She told me that 100% will work, but up to 5% may have aesthetic flaws.  This was apparently by accident, and she will be replacing our boards with scratches / paint blobs.  I'm guessing they assume most buyers are installing these into complete products and that end consumers won't really see the PCB so the aesthetic flaws don't matter.

Obviously, we'll be removing all of the PCBs with aesthetic issues from our inventory, so no one should have to worry about this again. 

Thanks for everyone's patience as we tackle these new product types!
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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 09:10:44 »
scratch and dent sale for the blemished ones?
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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 09:11:42 »
The PCB manufacturer contacted me today to explain.  She told me that 100% will work, but up to 5% may have aesthetic flaws.  This was apparently by accident, and she will be replacing our boards with scratches / paint blobs.  I'm guessing they assume most buyers are installing these into complete products and that end consumers won't really see the PCB so the aesthetic flaws don't matter.

Obviously, we'll be removing all of the PCBs with aesthetic issues from our inventory, so no one should have to worry about this again. 

Thanks for everyone's patience as we tackle these new product types!

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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 09:12:30 »
That is good to know. Some people (eg me), just have the best of luck and attract most of the 5% :P

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 09:30:58 »
That is good to know. Some people (eg me), just have the best of luck and attract most of the 5% :P

^^ That's what I was thinking hahaha.

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 09:36:17 »
Got my Phantom boards yesterday, they both had some scratches, but it's not a big deal.  I really like the white. 

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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 10:04:27 »
scratch and dent sale for the blemished ones?

I think we will probably do this :)

Got my Phantom boards yesterday, they both had some scratches, but it's not a big deal.  I really like the white. 

I'm really going to get on top of them next time (wish* I could justify a plane ticket to China for some in-person spot checks lol).  Our whole team is aware of this now, so should be better going forward.
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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 10:05:48 »
scratch and dent sale for the blemished ones?

I think we will probably do this :)

Got my Phantom boards yesterday, they both had some scratches, but it's not a big deal.  I really like the white. 

I'm really going to get on top of them next time (which I could justify a plane ticket to China for some in-person spot checks lol).  Our whole team is aware of this now, so should be better going forward.

Do it and take lots of video and pictures of the manufacturing processes!!

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 10:07:56 »
Oh, you know it.  :D
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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:37:00 »
hi everyone, just wondering what kind of resistors I would need for the phantom? and what kind of LEDs I would need to get for it? If anyone can lead me to where I can order these it would be great! thanks =)
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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:58:56 »
hi everyone, just wondering what kind of resistors I would need for the phantom? and what kind of LEDs I would need to get for it? If anyone can lead me to where I can order these it would be great! thanks =)
for the LEDs i believe any 3mm through hole LEDs should work. as for the resistors it will depend on the LEDs you use and how bright/dim you want them. you might have to do some research to find out exactly what you want.

but someone please correct me if im wrong.

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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:03:57 »
negative. you want flat top t1 3mms I believe and even then because of mabufacturer cariance in what they call such, you need to confirm fitment yourself

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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:44:03 »
3mm got it thanks guys! =) just truly in search of some form of plate and need to figure out what case I'll be putting it into
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« Reply #79 on: Sun, 15 September 2013, 13:00:10 »
Keep in mind that flat top T1 is preferable, as the domed-top ones can interfere slightly with some keycaps.

Also: WTB scratched PCB :p I have another phantom plate lying around that needs a PCB to go with it.

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« Reply #80 on: Sun, 15 September 2013, 13:04:06 »
Even with flat top LEDs, you want to sand a downward angle on the front of the LED as the thicker cherry keycaps will get stuck when pressed firmly.
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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 15 September 2013, 13:06:56 »
Just buy 2x3x4 rectangle LEDs and you won't have to worry about keycap clearance.
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« Reply #82 on: Mon, 16 September 2013, 08:54:21 »
Just buy 2x3x4 rectangle LEDs and you won't have to worry about keycap clearance.

They also seem to 'click' into the switch and hold themselves in place pretty well. Very convenient.
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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:38:57 »
Just received my PCBs. They both look all right apart from some minor scratches, but from what I've read, it should not have an impact on the board itself (hopefully).

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 15:55:04 »
Can you use a stock Filco TKL plate for the phantom?
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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:15:21 »
Can you use a stock Filco TKL plate for the phantom?

i don't believe so, but i'd love to be wrong. i think right now the only way to get a plate is to wait for one to crop up, harvest one from another phantom, or wait for the Groupbuy thats gonna happen novemberish.
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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:18:00 »
Can you use a stock Filco TKL plate for the phantom?

i don't believe so, but i'd love to be wrong. i think right now the only way to get a plate is to wait for one to crop up, harvest one from another phantom, or wait for the Groupbuy thats gonna happen novemberish.

Hmm... do you know if the stock plate is modifiable in some way in order to make it work?? like what specifically is wrong with the stock one that makes it not work out
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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:41:07 »
Can you use a stock Filco TKL plate for the phantom?

Yes, you certainly can.
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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 16:52:19 »
Can you use a stock Filco TKL plate for the phantom?

Yes, you certainly can.

*MIND BLOWN* thanks for the response JD!
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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:17:25 »
It's true that you can, but IMHO that beats the whole purpose - you won't be able to mod or repair your switches after soldering them (i.e., remove the top housing and change the stem / spring). I believe that's why too many people want to get one of these plates which allow you to do that.

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:31:52 »
It's true that you can, but IMHO that beats the whole purpose - you won't be able to mod or repair your switches after soldering them (i.e., remove the top housing and change the stem / spring). I believe that's why too many people want to get one of these plates which allow you to do that.

Hmm well I guess I'll just make sure I put it in the proper switch/spring combo for my needs prior to soldering it with the stock plate... I can always build a second one once the plate GB comes around ^_^
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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:42:57 »
Can you use a stock Filco TKL plate for the phantom?

Yes, you certainly can.

*MIND BLOWN* thanks for the response JD!

Seconded!

It's true that you can, but IMHO that beats the whole purpose - you won't be able to mod or repair your switches after soldering them (i.e., remove the top housing and change the stem / spring). I believe that's why too many people want to get one of these plates which allow you to do that.

Hmm well I guess I'll just make sure I put it in the proper switch/spring combo for my needs prior to soldering it with the stock plate... I can always build a second one once the plate GB comes around ^_^

thats exactly what i'm thinking. guess i should go order another phantom plate...
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« Reply #92 on: Wed, 25 September 2013, 12:49:40 »
I received my Phantom PCB! <3 thank you so much! =)
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Re: Phantom PCB Available
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 14 October 2013, 16:13:14 »
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I think you did good picking white MK  :thumb: the only problem with white is you have to do some serious cleaning after soldering if you want to show it off. get out the alcohol, a toothpick, and q-tip and go at it.

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« Reply #94 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 21:09:06 »
I have yet to clean mine off after I soldered it together lol got lazy xD
Looks great Glod!=)
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« Reply #95 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 20:30:28 »
Will you be offering plates for the phantom any time soon?

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 05 November 2013, 12:57:07 »
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I think you did good picking white MK  :thumb: the only problem with white is you have to do some serious cleaning after soldering if you want to show it off. get out the alcohol, a toothpick, and q-tip and go at it.

Pretty! I kept thinking there has to be a reason no one does white for PCBs... I guess you answered that.  Looks great if you take the time though!
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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 05 November 2013, 12:58:52 »
Will you be offering plates for the phantom any time soon?

We were looking for suppliers on this.  One was actually from GH but we never heard back on pricing.  We need to find a direct supplier. If anyone has suggestions, we'll put an order together.
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