Author Topic: Poker vs Poker 2 (Read 4598 times)

catbuster · « **on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 12:55:59 »

Hi GeekHack!!!

I just fell in love with 60% keyboards and looking around to get one asap.

I dont want any arrow keys and HHKB is out of my reach.

So now I am stuck between Poker & Poker 2.

So what would you recommend?

kenmai9 · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:00:00 »

Poker x if you want to mod your switches without soldering (changing springs or stems).
Poker 2 if you want a programmable layer

zoolzoo · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:10:01 »

Poker 2 has plate mounted switches which some people like more.

Moosecraft · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:30:39 »

Quote from: zoolzoo on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:10:01

Poker 2 has plate mounted switches which some people like more.

I don't find it to be to much of a difference, with a SS plate there is quite a difference though.

C5Allroad · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:44:47 »

Where do I find a poker I?

catbuster · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:02:25 »

Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:44:47

Where do I find a poker I?

USA:

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=112

Has any1 try to buy in Europe from here?

http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/kbc-poker/kbc-poker-60-mechanical-keyboard-ansi-us-international.html

spiceBar · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:29:26 »

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:02:25

Quote from: HUNTERANGEL121 on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:44:47
Where do I find a poker I?

USA:

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=112

Has any1 try to buy in Europe from here?

http://kbtrace.com/kbtpure/kbc-poker/kbc-poker-60-mechanical-keyboard-ansi-us-international.html

It's out of stock there and I don't think they will sell it again.

Beca · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:45:20 »

You'll only be able to get a Poker I used. Check the classifieds section!

catbuster · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:53:50 »

Well in kbtrace.com shop

Availability: In stock

They ship from france to europe for free.

Or its not the original poker?

Beca · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:03:13 »

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:53:50

Well in kbtrace.com shop

Availability: In stock

They ship from france to europe for free.

Or its not the original poker?

Eh, I would not buy from that site. I've heard a lot of horror stories.

Unless anyone else here has ordered from kbtrace.com and can comment? I really have no direct experience with them.

JayG30 · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:14:43 »

Yea seems like the Poker 1 is past it's EOL, so finding one "new" is next to impossible.
I don't see the Poker X available anywhere either...or am I missing it?

BlueBär · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:15:52 »

Quote from: Beca on Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:03:13

Eh, I would not buy from that site. I've heard a lot of horror stories.

Unless anyone else here has ordered from kbtrace.com and can comment? I really have no direct experience with them.

I don't think I ever read something bad about them? Where did you read those "horror stories"?

C5Allroad · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:18:51 »

I found some on amazon. Thing is I'm in the US. Right now I'm on my phone so I can't actually see if they charge a lot for shipping.…
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B009S7LFTQ

Beca · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:21:38 »

Quote from: BlueBär on Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:15:52

Quote from: Beca on Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:03:13
Eh, I would not buy from that site. I've heard a lot of horror stories.

Unless anyone else here has ordered from kbtrace.com and can comment? I really have no direct experience with them.

I don't think I ever read something bad about them? Where did you read those "horror stories"?

http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1m9muf/odering_from_the_kbt_website/
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1gr85c/do_not_buy_from_wwwkbtracecom/

Looks like mixed reviews. Personally, I wouldn't order there, especially if there are Pokers available through classifieds.

catbuster · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:23:27 »

Thx guys!

I will try to post at classifieds, maybe some1 will be willing to sell

edit: seems i am to new here to post at tha forum board...

maybe i should just buy for qtan

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KBC-Poker-2-61keys-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Red-Switches-W-PBT-caps-/291014918285?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43c1d7408d

Beca · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:28:48 »

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:23:27

Thx guys!

I will try to post at classifieds, maybe some1 will be willing to sell

edit: seems i am to new here to post at tha forum board...

maybe i should just buy for qtan

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KBC-Poker-2-61keys-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Red-Switches-W-PBT-caps-/291014918285?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43c1d7408d

Where do you live? If you live in the US, it would be cheaper to buy the Poker from feng.

catbuster · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:32:28 »

I live in Europe, Lithuania. Need to fill in my profile...

Beca · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:35:11 »

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:32:28

I live in Europe, Lithuania. Need to fill in my profile...

Ah, then Qtan is probably the cheapest and most reliable option. Welcome to GH btw

WhiteFireDragon · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:37:38 »

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 12:55:59

So now I am stuck between Poker & Poker 2.

So what would you recommend?

Poker 2 is better than the original Poker in every way. There's no reason to get the original poker unless you can find it for significantly cheaper.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0

ValerieV · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 17:18:02 »

I agree that Poker II is better. I had the first one and i didn't like it as much as i like the new one. Also, the stabilizers make it easy to change the bigger keycaps. Everything to me is just better with Poker II. I don't think you would regret getting a Poker II but you might wish you got one if you get a Poker I instead.

C5Allroad · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 19:47:36 »

That's if you want to be able to switch stems easily. But then again there is a sort of excitement with modding your own boards.
I would rather borrow someone's solder and desolder than actually buy my own set.
But the poker II from what I read around the internet is better than the Poker X.

berrymxblue · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:11:19 »

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:37:38

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 12:55:59
So now I am stuck between Poker & Poker 2.

So what would you recommend?

Poker 2 is better than the original Poker in every way. There's no reason to get the original poker unless you can find it for significantly cheaper.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0

agreed complete

ValerieV · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:43:06 »

I have had both models of Poker in both blue, and brown. The keyboards just sound better in the Poker II. It seems to sound "cleaner" if that makes any sense. I am not a huge fan or soldering because i am not good at it. I can switch keycap and that is the extent of it. The one thing i wish Poker did, as i wish HHKB did, is minimize the spacebar a bit, and then put dedicated arrow keys. Oh, and a bluetooth version. Other than that i am happy.

JayG30 · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 12 November 2013, 22:14:08 »

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:37:38

Poker 2 is better than the original Poker in every way. There's no reason to get the original poker unless you can find it for significantly cheaper.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0

I wish it would have keep the ability to lock arrow keys to the lower right.
Being left handed, I never use the right modifiers. The old poker would allow me to make use of them.
I'd prefer the Pn moved to Right Alt and PMode to to the Fn layer of the Pn key (I don't get why use Ctrl for this). I'd also prefer the FN key on the left replacing the WIN key by default.
Actually, I'd prefer if keyboards just removed all the duplication of keys to the right since I prefer to use them on the left (even shift) and just put the arrows, but I think I'm in a minority being left handed.

spiceBar · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 13 November 2013, 00:16:00 »

Quote from: Beca on Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:03:13

Quote from: catbuster on Tue, 12 November 2013, 14:53:50
Well in kbtrace.com shop

Availability: In stock

They ship from france to europe for free.

Or its not the original poker?
Eh, I would not buy from that site. I've heard a lot of horror stories.

Unless anyone else here has ordered from kbtrace.com and can comment? I really have no direct experience with them.

See my posts here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50846.0;topicseen

They are not good, but I ordered three times from them and everything eventually arrived.

They STILL have the original Poker in stock, black key caps with white legends (not unreadable laser engraved as their site shows). I have got one from them last month. They have it in Cherry MX red and black.

As far as I know it's one of the last places where you can purchase the original Poker.

catbuster · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 13 November 2013, 04:55:13 »

Thx for so many replies! I decided to go with poker 2 from qtan

Now i need to find some caps!!! Blank white & blacks i think. Will try search vendors forum.

BlueBär · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 13 November 2013, 05:09:03 »

Signature Plastics still offers blank DSA caps in PBT.

ValerieV · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 13 November 2013, 05:27:31 »

Quote from: JayG30 on Tue, 12 November 2013, 22:14:08

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:37:38
Poker 2 is better than the original Poker in every way. There's no reason to get the original poker unless you can find it for significantly cheaper.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44118.0

I wish it would have keep the ability to lock arrow keys to the lower right.
Being left handed, I never use the right modifiers. The old poker would allow me to make use of them.
I'd prefer the Pn moved to Right Alt and PMode to to the Fn layer of the Pn key (I don't get why use Ctrl for this). I'd also prefer the FN key on the left replacing the WIN key by default.
Actually, I'd prefer if keyboards just removed all the duplication of keys to the right since I prefer to use them on the left (even shift) and just put the arrows, but I think I'm in a minority being left handed.

I agree. I didn't even think about that. I am left handed as well and it takes some getting used to with using the arrow keys on my left as opposed to the right.

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