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Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:32:22 »
This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty  good, from what you've seen.

Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...

Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:43:52 »
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:45:00 »
This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty  good, from what you've seen.

Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...

Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.

You're just being a regular ole hater today, aren't you?
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:46:51 »
This is something we've all seen. We saw ads and reviews of a movie from not America. The movie looks pretty  good, from what you've seen.

Some time later, you discover a movie which looks strangely familiar - But holy ****, it's American! Fantastic! Now you can watch the... Same movie... ok...

Why does this happen? Why do movies get re-made or spun/ripped off to be more American? This isn't me bashing America, it's just that it's where all these unnecessary movie remakes get made.

You're just being a regular ole hater today, aren't you?

No, for ****s sake, it's just a question and I want to start discussion.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:48:53 »
If the film uses a language other than English, then it immediately alienates the majority of the English-speaking audience. The majority of the world is pretty used to watching dubbed/subbed films but the fact English is the first language of such a wide range of countries and that the USA has traditionally had a greater proportional output of cinema, mean English-speaking audiences aren't used to going to see a movie and having to read subtitles or listen to a dub track.

When the film already uses English, but Hollywood still remakes it it's just a combination of laziness (90% of current movies for the past few years seem to be remakes and adaptations or gratuitous sequels and spinoffs) and the fact they can bank on a proven concept, "Americanize" it and appeal to a wider audience than the original.

The Hunger Game films bother me in particular. An adaptation of a book, which in turn was a plagiarism of a movie, which was itself an adaptation of a book. Really they took Battle Royale, added a dollop of Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery", a hint of pseudo-feminism then stripped out the subtext and symbolism and instead replaced it with a shallow, heavy-handed token attempt at social commentary.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:52:13 »
Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(

Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:52:17 »
What I really hate is how Doctor Who "went Hollywood" when Matt Smith started.

I have been watching since the 1970s, and that quaint Anglo charm was very important to my enjoyment of it.

Now they changed "everything" (even the music and opening - I know that it has been changed, subtly, over the years, but not like this) and it has lost its charm altogether.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:54:56 »
It's thespitative easing.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:56:06 »
It's worth noting that there's been a tilt in recent years, particularly due to the cinema industry in China. I suspect Hong Kong might even exceed Hollywood in terms of scale at some point in the future. A lot more people watch movies like Ip Man - just straight up mainstream action stuff - than back when watching a subbed foreign movie was seen as arthouse/pretentious. It's at the stage now where Hong Kong is actually remaking a lot of American movies to market to the Chinese audience.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:01:18 »
Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(

Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.

See:  Why do things have to be altered for culture.

The Office nearly didn't get a season two for the exact same reason.  They adjust for an American audience and people fall head over heels to watch it for 7 more years.


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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:11:38 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:18:36 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:25:22 »
Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(

Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.

See:  Why do things have to be altered for culture.

The Office nearly didn't get a season two for the exact same reason.  They adjust for an American audience and people fall head over heels to watch it for 7 more years.

I dont understand :3 You agreeing with me ?
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:48:53 »
ITT: Holier than thou European attitude

I'm having trouble seeing if that was a reach-around or a snarky remark of sorts... I need to get more adjusted to this forum.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:51:04 »
Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(

Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.

Hollywood: "However you're making movies, you're doing it wrong."

Yep, that's about it.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:26:36 »
Kick Ass 2 was Americaniz'ed. :'(

Also they killed the TV show "inbetweeners" not sure how, they didn't even change the scripts.

See:  Why do things have to be altered for culture.

The Office nearly didn't get a season two for the exact same reason.  They adjust for an American audience and people fall head over heels to watch it for 7 more years.

I dont understand :3 You agreeing with me ?

Yes, I think.

thought you sounded confused as to why a non-changed scripted show didn't work in the US.  I might have misread that.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:32:27 »
Oh no, the point I was making was that a hugely successful show over here, worked well. And they copied it directly, and it failed. Which I kinda supposed was the point you agreed with...

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:42:52 »

No, for ****s sake, it's just a question and I want to start a flame war.


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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:43:59 »
I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:48:31 »
I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.

1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:50:56 »

No, for ****s sake, it's just a question and I want to start a flame war.


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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:59:07 »
I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.

1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason

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Those are all true enough though. They just don't apply exclusively to Americans.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:55:03 »
I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.
2. There are no recognizable big name 'actors' in the foreign film. It makes it a bigger risk for distributor from a sales perspective.
3. Hollywood seem to LOVE remakes as they don't have to bother coming up with anything original.
4. There are still REALLY bizarre regional distribution schemes in media which can make it very difficult to impossible to offer it in other regions, but they seem to have an easier time optioning the screenplay.

1. Americans are dumb
2. Americans are shallow
3. Americans are lazy
4. Potential legit reason

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Those are all true enough though. They just don't apply exclusively to Americans.

True it seems to apply worldwide, especially here in Convict Town.  The average Australian has an IQ equivalency to a plank of wood.  Dumb doesn't even describe the current population that resides here.  In fact dare I say it, the average American has a higher intelligence compared to an average Aussie.

Hence why make films for the top intelligentsia to enjoy because it would only represent a shallow under 5% of the total population.  Easier to make more money catering to morons with their favorite type of films, for example - super heroes, naked chicks and fast bikes, cars, planes, space ships and alien creatures.

Unfortunately there is very little of quality film making going on at this moment in time but I guess this might be the 'moron' phase that will stay with us for a few more years yet.  There will be a revival in the future as people hunger for something more than just bare tits and fast cars, but then again I may be wrong.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:12:08 »
I wonder how bad/good "Delivery Man" will be?

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:21:57 »


1. People are dumb
2. People are shallow
3. People are lazy
4. Potential legit reason

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:22:55 »
I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.

99% != all
But a majority do seem averse to reading sub-titles while watching media.
I'd kill for subtitles during a live play or musical, sometimes it's freaking hard to hear/follow every line.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:06:36 »
Money. Americans have the most.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:17:03 »
sometimes it's freaking hard to hear/follow every line.

I always turn on subtitles whenever I can.

It irritates the crap out of me that Netflix rarely streams subtitles. It used to be never, now they are sometimes available.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:39:47 »
Money. Americans have the most.

You forgot you borrowed all that money from the Communist Chinese, so lets face the facts here  :p .

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 21:08:04 »
Money. Americans have the most.

You forgot you borrowed all that money from the Communist Chinese, so lets face the facts here  :p .

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1. Americans are dumb
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3. Americans are lazy
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5. Americans are numerous
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 05:21:22 »
I see a few major reasons it is done:
1. Americans often seem they can't read, or at least have too hard of time reading AND paying attention to the rest of the screen at the same time. For the most part non-English subtitles films do terrible at American box office.

But when it's actually worth paying attention to the pretty pictures, there's mostly nothing to read or nothing worth reading in the subtitles.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 06:44:25 »
sometimes it's freaking hard to hear/follow every line.

I always turn on subtitles whenever I can.

It irritates the crap out of me that Netflix rarely streams subtitles. It used to be never, now they are sometimes available.


^^ This 1000x

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:02:37 »
The worst example of this would probably be the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" series. The originals were great, why remake them using American actors? I can see why they do it -- to make it more accessible to an American audience, but if you're going to remake something, it should be better than the original if at all possible. And from a marketplace view, it's good for foreign filmmakers -- they get money for making a great product.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:21:53 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 09:51:52 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:00:34 »
The I.T. Crowd is the saddest example.  I hated the americanized remake.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 13:58:29 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

This. Can we lock the thread now?  :blank:

If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:11:04 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

This. Can we lock the thread now?  :blank:

If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?

There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:22:49 »
I think it's done simply to make more money.  Networks and film studios need good ideas for shows and movies, and what's easier than taking already successful and acclaimed works from a different country?  Those works are adopted to be 'more relevant' to the culture viewers are familiar with: for example, the Office.  The British version is great, however many American viewers may not get its cultural references or some of the British humor.  Solution: remake as if it were happening in the US.  Etc.  Also some older American films get remade for similar reasons--sometimes more than once.  Again, the goal is to get people to buy tickets, DVDs, and to increase viewer count for TV network.  The safe and lazy way to do that is to use material that has proven to be successful in the past as well as marketing it as contemporary, with all new and 'relevant' actors.

By the way, I was surprised by the number of actual US shows and films broadcast on the British TV.  But I can understand that the UK is smaller and doesn't have as high of a budget for remaking everything.  Plus Europe is more accustomed to different cultures living side by side, whereas the American Way is to assimilate and adopt your old culture to the new one.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:28:05 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

This. Can we lock the thread now?  :blank:

If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?

There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:34:23 »
please relax.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:42:04 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

This. Can we lock the thread now?  :blank:

If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?

There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?

Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:43:50 »
Also some older American films get remade for similar reasons--sometimes more than once.

Too true. For example, here's David Hasselhoff (don't hassle him) in StarCrash which is exactly like Star Wars, except it sucked and everyone in it had really nice shoes. It's just a blatant rip-off.


How useless could this thread be if it results in David Hasselhoff in a laser sword battle?
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:45:55 »
Also some older American films get remade for similar reasons--sometimes more than once.

Too true. For example, here's David Hasselhoff (don't hassle him) in StarCrash which is exactly like Star Wars, except it sucked and everyone in it had really nice shoes. It's just a blatant rip-off.


How useless could this thread be if it results in David Hasselhoff in a laser sword battle?

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:13:54 »
You guys are way over-thinking this.

There is a very simply reason why Hollywood remakes successful foreign films:  Laziness. 

Oh wait and greed.  And also there is American provincialism and xenophobia. 

Put them all together and you get:  'Muricans hate foreigners and won't see "foreign" films.  People who run Hollywood studios are too lazy to create new ideas.  So they steal when they can, or license when they can't, foreign films for their own profit.  They would just dub the foreign film, but Americans won't pay for a dubbed movie, so they have to remake the movie with American actors and set the movie in 'Murica.  The worse the American adaptation shows how much more greed went into the mix.
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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:32:21 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

This. Can we lock the thread now?  :blank:

If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?

There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?

Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:45:49 »
this kitteh wants you to chill

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Re: Why are movies "Americanized" ?
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:57:18 »
Short answer: Hollywood is a business.

This. Can we lock the thread now?  :blank:

If you can't have a reasonable discussion like the majority of other people then why bother participating in the thread in the first place?

There's nothing left to discuss...hence my previous post. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out either. You're free to continue discussing, course, if you prefer repeating yourself.
If there's nothing left to discuss then presumably the thread will die naturally, and not require being locked. Locking is reserved for threads which break the rules or become disruptive, which - aside from yourself - this thread has not. What I was actually questioning - and what you failed to answer - was what's the deal with your unwarranted hostility?

Yawn... It seems you have a low tolerance for what you perceive as "hostility". American movies are Americanized because Hollywood is located in America. What's there really to discuss? I've left my opinion, as short as it is. There's no need for you to escalate a simple statement.
Well perhaps not hostility then and more "douchebaggery" then. Suggesting a thread should be locked (facetious or not) because you don't think it warrants discussion makes you a douchebag. Protip: Next time, perhaps make your statement without the "and now let's lock the thread already" snark, or don't post at all.

I rather not resort to name calling, so I'll just say that you're obnoxiously overreacting. There's a reason why I said "this" and /lock the thread because I rather not repeat what a few people have already said. If you perceive that as "snarky" and is a problem to you, then keep the insults to yourself. There's no reason to launch a foolish tirade.