fake clack discussion

[exitfire401]

Spam, weren't those just photoshopped? I though CC got mad at the guy though because everyone started messaging him because they thought there was a sale or something. (I mean that about the first picture, not the 2nd)

Don't believe they were shopped. This isn't the first picture of these to come out.

[SpAmRaY]

Spam, weren't those just photoshopped? I though CC got mad at the guy though because everyone started messaging him because they thought there was a sale or something. (I mean that about the first picture, not the 2nd)

So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...

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http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html

I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)

Sure.....'photoshopped'....yeah.....do you guys not get the emails with all the details about what's really going on?

[BunnyLake]

the full reveal is coming soon

[heedpantsnow]

Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.

I don't agree with them on any of that, I'm just pointing out what I think is their thought process.

I really hate doing business and go out of my way to avoid buying things made in certain places because I don't want to contribute to their criminal economy. Still hard though.

Edit: again, just want to reiterate that I vehemently disagree with their view. Just wanted to share my observation since I lived in China for a long time and have been to many of the places related to this topic.

[strict]

He needs to cut his fingernails, that is disgusting

[Puddsy]

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seems legit

we know that the first ones were photoshopped and never actually produced, he said so himself, and supplied original photos IIRC.

and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.

Thanks,
-TS

[SpAmRaY]

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seems legit

we know that the first ones were photoshopped and never actually produced, he said so himself, and supplied original photos IIRC.

and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.

Thanks,
-TS

That's not what my emails say.

[Puddsy]

Ray, did i miss something?

[Michael]

Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.

They know exactly what a big deal it is to us, and he (GH username: megaxpop) taunts and teases at that point.

[SpAmRaY]

Ray, did i miss something?

Apparently.

[nubbinator]

I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban )

Regardless of whether he did (which I'm sure he did), the fact that he supports K3 and had given him a place to display his wares is despicable.  I don't know why pmh is still not banned here.

Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.

I don't agree with them on any of that, I'm just pointing out what I think is their thought process.

Many places do have that mindset and you see a lot of that mindset over on Reddit, which is ironic given how much they ***** about other sites "stealing" their content and ***** if someone steals their product and rips it off.

That said, it's apparent that K3 doesn't fit into that category.  He knows what he is doing is wrong, but doesn't give a **** and would rather be spiteful and vindictive and make money off someone else's work.

[Puddsy]

Ray, did i miss something?

Apparently.

Well...

What did I miss?

I'm really confused all of a sudden

[baldgye]

Ray, did i miss something?

Apparently.

Well...

What did I miss?

I'm really confused all of a sudden

I think its in the 'post your bros' thread in media... But I have trouble tracking it all... As mods see fit to randomly allow chat in one place and not another, then that changes etc...

[nubbinator]

and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.

Well to start, pmh is a mod on the Vietnamese forum where K3 has a sub and he has praised K3 in his threads.  That in and of it's self warrants him being crucified since he obviously has the power to stop it.

Secondly,

How is your friend doing, you know, the one making the fake clacks for you?

It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.

If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.

So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.

pmh1410

From here.  He has admitted multiple times and places that he supports the counterfeiter and would buy his stuff for the same BS reason you see on Reddit, because it's too hard to get them and he deserves them.

[demik]

I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban )

Regardless of whether he did (which I'm sure he did), the fact that he supports K3 and had given him a place to display his wares is despicable.  I don't know why pmh is still not banned here.

Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.

I don't agree with them on any of that, I'm just pointing out what I think is their thought process.

Many places do have that mindset and you see a lot of that mindset over on Reddit, which is ironic given how much they ***** about other sites "stealing" their content and ***** if someone steals their product and rips it off.

That said, it's apparent that K3 doesn't fit into that category.  He knows what he is doing is wrong, but doesn't give a **** and would rather be spiteful and vindictive and make money off someone else's work.

because you only get banned when youre a naughty boy. not when, you know, support scammers. 

[pmh1410]

and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.

Well to start, pmh is a mod on the Vietnamese forum where K3 has a sub and he has praised K3 in his threads.  That in and of it's self warrants him being crucified since he obviously has the power to stop it.

Secondly,

How is your friend doing, you know, the one making the fake clacks for you?

It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.

If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.

So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.

pmh1410

From here.  He has admitted multiple times and places that he supports the counterfeiter and would buy his stuff for the same BS reason you see on Reddit, because it's too hard to get them and he deserves them.

Crammer, i only want to buy it, not support him. Which rules did that i can not buy something i want to get if i can ?

If you care something fake so you don't buy it. Luis Vutton fake have many, you can not say many people in the world stop to buy it.

[baldgye]

and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.

Well to start, pmh is a mod on the Vietnamese forum where K3 has a sub and he has praised K3 in his threads.  That in and of it's self warrants him being crucified since he obviously has the power to stop it.

Secondly,

How is your friend doing, you know, the one making the fake clacks for you?

It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.

If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.

So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.

pmh1410

From here.  He has admitted multiple times and places that he supports the counterfeiter and would buy his stuff for the same BS reason you see on Reddit, because it's too hard to get them and he deserves them.

Crammer, i only want to buy it, not support him. Which rules did that i can not buy something i want to get if i can ?

Ahh ok, I think this has helped clear it all up! Thank you for your intelligent and insiteful post!

[exitfire401]

 i only want to buy it, not support him.

[nubbinator]

Buy = support

If you knowingly buy fakes, you are supporting them.  That's basic level stuff that everyone should understand.

Also, given the fact that your forum has a K3 subsection and you have said stuff like "Nice ****: v" about his work, it's pretty damn obvious that you support him.

[heedpantsnow]

Yeah, sorry dude, nubs has it exactly right. You can't buy and then say you don't support. Just doesn't work that way.

[baldgye]

Also, why is he allowed to link a forum (in his sig) that openly supports fakes and counterfits??

[strict]

Crammer, i only want to buy it, not support him. Which rules did that i can not buy something i want to get if i can ?

Buying == supporting.

[pmh1410]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps.
I can only say with him stop do it but depende his decide.

[demik]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps

brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.

and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.

[Michael]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps.
I can only say with him stop do it but depende his decide.

You have extremely flawed logic, sir. You are saying in your signature that I should not be allowed to make money from my craft, but megaxpop can charge for making copies of my work? You can't be that ignorant.... or maybe you can...


I took photos of the fake clacks and sent it to paypal, then returned the caps to megaxpop. I had to prove my claim. And I did.


megaxpop is clearly butthurt about something. But your statement about me not being able to make money from my work is ridiculous. If you are so righteous, then you sell all of your clacks for $10 right now. megaxpop - sell YOUR (you know, those terrible dota ones) caps for no profit. No, you would rather profit from others works, right? lulz

[pmh1410]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps

brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.

and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.

Me too, i want to get for compare with my OG Click Clack. Just want to know the quality and colors.

[HPE1000]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps

brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.

and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.

Me too, i want to get for compare with my OG Click Clack. Just want to know the quality and colors.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[demik]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps

brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.

and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.

Me too, i want to get for compare with my OG Click Clack. Just want to know the quality and colors.

bull****. you cried how others cant afford it so clones are okay.

[nubbinator]

Many GHers bought it included Brocaps.
I can only say with him stop do it but depende his decide.

And those GHers should be shamed and/or banned. 

You can do much more than tell him to stop.  You had many choices you could have made, but chose not to. You could have encouraged him to make other caps instead of counterfeits.  You could have denied him a subforum in your forum.  You could have admonished him and told him not to make counterfeits from the very beginning.  You could have destroyed the fakes he sent you and never posted pictures or them on here.  You could have worked with Clack and Bro from the very beginning to let them know who the counterfeiter was so they could bring legal recourse against him.  There are a ton of things you could do; however, you choose not to do them. 

[demik]

im starting to wonder if youre mildly retarded or just dont believe the bull**** you say and change your story as it goes on.

youre okay with this ass hat making money by stealing brocaps design but you dont want brocaps to make money? seriously what the ****.

[pmh1410]

I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.

[HPE1000]

It's like he is purposely contradicting himself as much as possible 

[demik]

I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.

then why do you care if your friends can afford them or not?

i mean they are just plastic so they can do without it.

[epzy]

10/10

/baconsnacks

[byker]

It's like he is purposely contradicting himself as much as possible 

This, maybe he is having troubles writing what he means in English?

[pmh1410]

I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.

then why do you care if your friends can afford them or not?

i mean they are just plastic so they can do without it.

Pls tell with K3KC. I can't decide for him.

[demik]

I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.

then why do you care if your friends can afford them or not?

i mean they are just plastic so they can do without it.

Pls tell with K3KC. I can't decide for him.

im going off the excuses youve used to support him.

[zennasyndroxx]

What if k3kc decides to give them free instead? Lol

Note: i cant afford og bb or cc, never lucky enough to win them yet and not supporting fakes.

[Signature]

What if k3kc decides to give them free instead? Lol

Note: i cant afford og bb, never lucky enough to win them yet and not supporting fakes.

Why the fk would he do that?

[zennasyndroxx]

What if k3kc decides to give them free instead? Lol

Note: i cant afford og bb, never lucky enough to win them yet and not supporting fakes.

Why the fk would he do that?

I've no idea but who knows what's gonna happen next? Looks like he has more keycaps on the way for sales.

[pear_voz]

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Oh this ss is a shame, fkin shame

[bazh]

Spam, weren't those just photoshopped? I though CC got mad at the guy though because everyone started messaging him because they thought there was a sale or something. (I mean that about the first picture, not the 2nd)

So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...

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http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html

I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)

you are talking about a Vietnamese community where those who're considered as elder in the field (has more experiences) are gods and everything they told is the one truth so yeah, if someone like that has their speaking supporting it then, you know what

[HPE1000]

Don't get me wrong, I am not generalizing, but the fact that he is allowed to have a little subforum along side people like feng just strikes me wrong. Google translate fails me in deciphering what the comments on those threads are though so they could be negative for all I know.

(Just wanted to put that out there in case my original message were to be misunderstood)

[bazh]

Don't get me wrong, I am not generalizing, but the fact that he is allowed to have a little subforum along side people like feng just strikes me wrong. Google translate fails me in deciphering what the comments on those threads are though so they could be negative for all I know.

(Just wanted to put that out there in case my original message were to be misunderstood)

no you were right, I took a look at that forum and it's pretty much that


//just put the cmt you want to know here I'll do the translation jobs for you

[yicaoyimu]

I'm so sick of pmh's logic... Someone get him out of here. Please!

[HipsterPunks]

I'm so sick of pmh's logic... Someone get him out of here. Please!

[heedpantsnow]

Lol except I'm afraid DJ Jazzy Jeff was way cooler than these Fakesies.

[kmiller8]

fake clacks are best clacks

because more drama is more better

[MiTo]

All I can conclude after everything that happened on this thread, is that K3 is a complete ignorant and a stupid individual.

The man has access to insanely huge and solid keyboard communities, decent tooling, logistics, a decent website and apparently a legit buying system and simply chose to throw away probably a commercial opportunity that he could take for life.

Demand for these novelties is growing everyday, because of the expansion of the keyboard communities and because of the notoriety mechanical keyboards are receiving lately.

eSports are already huge, just look at Asian tournaments and you'll see. Many games and themes to work on, so many colors and features that he could implement. He could ignite an entire market share if had decided to do that in the past. Now he's burnt.

It's like someone being able to build good electric cars and then choosing to copy Teslas instead, and then finding that funny, legit and smart. And then becoming hated and a joke on the market.

Oh, look at me, I'm "competing with the industry."

I don't know what's going trough the head of someone that still support this guy.

[Puddsy]

All I can conclude after everything that happened on this thread, is that K3 is a complete ignorant and a stupid individual.

The man has access to insanely huge and solid keyboard communities, decent tooling, logistics, a decent website and apparently a legit buying system and simply chose to throw away probably a commercial opportunity that he could take for life.

Demand for these novelties is growing everyday, because of the expansion of the keyboard communities and because of the notoriety mechanical keyboards are receiving lately.

eSports are already huge, just look at Asian tournaments and you'll see. Many games and themes to work on, so many colors and features that he could implement. He could ignite an entire market share if had decided to do that in the past. Now he's burnt.

It's like someone being able to build good electric cars and then choosing to copy Teslas instead, and then finding that funny, legit and smart. And then becoming hated and a joke on the market.

Oh, look at me, I'm "competing with the industry."

I don't know what's going trough the head of someone that still support this guy.

I didn't think I'd end up saying that I agree with one of your posts, but I agree with this post.