I've heard from VesperSaint ergo clears don't feel very good on pcb mounted setups. How do other people feel about this? I'm interested in getting either an ergodox with ergo-clears or a modded QFR or filco. I'd like to try an ergodox, but I'm worried that the ergo clears won't feel as nice...
EDIT: Meant to say that pcb mounted ergo-clears don't feel AS good, not that they don't feel good at all. See Vesper's response below
As already clarified by Vespersaint, your question has more to do with the preference between pcb mounted boards and plate mounted boards than the ergoclear switch; lubed the same way, the switch is a constant. The difference in feel is only due to the mounting method, which is no different than comparing plated mounted blues against pcb mounted blues.
I just hope you're using the right lube for the right parts.
How much does using different lubes for different parts matter? Most of the people I've talked to buying boards from either forget what type of lube they've used, or don't seem to think it's important (*sigh*). Talking to you, though, it seems like it makes a difference.
Ugh, I'm thinking of putting of buying this ergo clear board and just building it myself...
Although with a custom plate you can easily re-lube the switches, right?
LOL sorry for taking this so off topic
If we're going to compare lubing methods, basically we're going into a very nit picky area.
I believe the original rationale for using victorinox for the springs is more of a cost saving decision. Krytox was alot harder (and expensive to get back then). You could lube all the parts with properly mixed krytox with no issues, which brings us to viscosity.
Before mkawa began providing pre-mixed lube, most of us who did the mod mixed the grease and oil ourselves (in a 1 to 1 ratio), and in such cases, different ratios yield very subtle (but still noticeable) differences in results.
I'm not sure how thick the premixed lubes are, but I believe it shouldn't be that thick that it will cause problems with applied to springs, or any other part for that matter.
A higher amount of grease vs oil (meaning a more viscous mixture) will have a muting effect on the switches, as well as more buttery smooth. This alters the feel of the switch a little more, to a point.
A higher amount of oil vs grease (a thinner, watery mixture) is slicker, snappier, closer to stock, but still smooth.
A mixture that's too thick - assuming an extreme case of using gpl 205 alone, that's applied 'generously' will gum up the switch. For pure grease, only using a thin film of it is important. On the other extreme, using only 103 alone is too thin and will cause the lube to 'run'.
You can think of it this way - for those who prefer grease, adding a little bit of 103 oil prevents the switch from gumming up when applied generously.
For those who prefer more oil, mixing in 205 grease allows for generous application while preventing the oil from running all over the switch housing.
By mixing the two, a middle ground can be achieved which allows the option of using more than a thin film of lube; personally I go with a mixture of high grease to oil ratio (as high as I can go without gumming the switches) AND applying generously. The opposite is possible, using as much oil as you can mixed with grease to give it a higher viscosity so it doesn't run when applied generously.
This is the nitpicky part; for those who can't be bothered about such things, all lube feels pretty much the same. I was able to get really decent results using cheaper lubes like superlube mixtures, with similar results to using krytox; the only difference is that superlube degrades (I found it yellowed after about 2 months of use), while the krytox looks pretty much the same as when I applied it after similar periods of time, which why the reason why I switched to krytox instead).
But if you want to go into the nitty gritty of lubing mx switches, there are factors such as mixing ratios, application points, actual amounts applied, that can affect the final result (very subtly). Or you could simply grab a brush, lube away, close the switches up and never think about it again. It's probably easier to go with the latter.
Hope this helps.