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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:38:26 »
Assume 50 tier

2x Base Set = $126
2x shipping = $53
2x VAT = $39,4
2x custom fees = $8
Total = $226,4
ship+Vat+cust, fees = 44,3% of total

base+additional mods+numpad = $104
shipping = $31,5
VAT = $14
custom fees = $4
Total = $153,5
ship+Vat+cust, fees = 32,2% of total
IF mods and numpad reaches 50 tier...

shipping without tracking?
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:03:40 »
Stoked to see another DSA GB! I'll be order as soon as the checkout issue is resolved  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #102 on: Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:13:32 »
Shipments will be sent from Custer, Washington via USPS - Flat rate for US is $7 and Flat rate for international is $26.50 (not including the additional charge per set - ex. the numpad set will cost an additional $2.50 for shipping).

Ehhh, what? how can that be true, is it with insurance? and if so, can we opt to not pay for that?
Sorry, but that is just killing it for me.


International shipping cost is just insane. I will ask a brother who is living in Houston to serve as a proxy. Now that I am living overseas. Geee.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:38:50 »
We should probably start a new thread about SP's groupbuy system.
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 06 February 2014, 17:45:58 »
We should probably start a new thread about SP's groupbuy system.


If such thread becomes live, invite splady to join it.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 06 February 2014, 18:12:31 »
It would be interesting to see prices if the base set would be splitted in Alpha+Mods
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 01:04:14 »
Assume 50 tier

2x Base Set = $126
2x shipping = $53
2x VAT = $39,4
2x custom fees = $8
Total = $226,4
ship+Vat+cust, fees = 44,3% of total

base+additional mods+numpad = $104
shipping = $31,5
VAT = $14
custom fees = $4
Total = $153,5
ship+Vat+cust, fees = 32,2% of total
IF mods and numpad reaches 50 tier...

shipping without tracking?

This is why I'll probably skip this GB and save my money for Bunnylake's upcoming GMK sets that will cost me half as much due to reasonable shipping costs and no VAT :(

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 02:32:42 »
I'm repeating here what I've said on the midnight thread.

At 50 tier (which is pretty low) we pay the base set + additional mods $106 and it includes a hell lot of keys AND 8 custom legends. For a comparison a set like rain drop costs $90 with far less keys and no additional legends (the custom legends were already done).

So it seems to me that there are advantages in this system. I'm a bit surprised about all the bitterness, the GB organized by forum members are based on one person's good will, it seems that this good will and all the hassle of managing a GB by a forum member is given for understood.

As an end user (and an international buyer) I'm not happy about this first iteration of SP system, but do I have alternatives? I cannot manage the GB myself because I live in EU, shipping from SP and taxes would make the set even more expensive. This is not a $200K GB like round5, with those big figures you can afford to make it happen from anywhere, but with small numbers there's little I can do.

If anyone in US is willing to take care of the Midnight set privately I'm more than happy to pass the baton.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 02:47:03 »
I'm repeating here what I've said on the midnight thread.

At 50 tier (which is pretty low) we pay the base set + additional mods $106 and it includes a hell lot of keys AND 8 custom legends. For a comparison a set like rain drop costs $90 with far less keys and no additional legends (the custom legends were already done).

So it seems to me that there are advantages in this system. I'm a bit surprised about all the bitterness, the GB organized by forum members are based on one person's good will, it seems that this good will and all the hassle of managing a GB by a forum member is given for understood.

As an end user (and an international buyer) I'm not happy about this first iteration of SP system, but do I have alternatives? I cannot manage the GB myself because I live in EU, shipping from SP and taxes would make the set even more expensive. This is not a $200K GB like round5, with those big figures you can afford to make it happen from anywhere, but with small numbers there's little I can do.

If anyone in US is willing to take care of the Midnight set privately I'm more than happy to pass the baton.

I answered you already in the Midnight Set thread, but I'll say again here anyway. There is no bitterness concerning the set or the prices for the keys themselves.

It's the huge shipping and tax costs that are keeping international buyers away.

One example: IvanIvanovich sent me 4 x104 key PBT dyesub sets, his GMK purple mod set, the GMK Esc set and the GMK CMYK mods for ~25$ total. The box said all this stuff is worth 20$ so I didn't have to pay any taxes (not legal I know...).

With SP's GB system I am looking at 50+$ of costs for a single TKL set!! I can't even combine shipping! So if I want to buy your Midnight set and the Macross set I am looking at ~100$ of extra costs which is just not worth it anymore.

Again, this is not your fault and I am appreciating all your hard work. I just want to express why I (and many others) probably won't join and therefore won't help reach better price tiers.
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #109 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 02:52:22 »
Sorry, I was not clear.

I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of expenses. Just that the price is very good and we have no alternatives (since I'm in EU and I cannot manage the GB from here). To have this kind of set (with presumably a low order count) this is the only option I had, if there's someone willing to handle the GB privately I'm more than happy to give the whole thing to him.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #110 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 03:59:05 »
I don't think there's anyone blaming you for this choice and after all a new system always need time to get used to it.
I'm sure you can reach your goal with all the conus buyers.  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #111 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 04:09:46 »
This a really exciting time for this community with GMK and SP stepping up their game. I'm going to have to think of a reasonable way to buy these caps, and think about how much I really want this set. I'm not in the US, so I'm taking on a bunch of extra costs. It's a great development nonetheless.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 08:25:57 »
Right now the system is set up to charge a rate per item - I am working to see if I can change that. A Medium Flat Rate box is actually $61...


Dear SPLady. If you have been reading the thread, right now the main issue preventing this GB to unleash the purchasing power of the community is the shipping cost per item, and the high international shipping cost. It is very important for SP to understand that charging more than 50 dollars for a couple of small boxes with ~100 dollars worth of plastic caps does not make sense. The shipping cost shall not be 50% of the items value. Please check the way the system will manage the shipping costs.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:22:33 »
SP just informed me that the checkout issue has been fixed.

Please try now and report any problem.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:31:54 »
Yes, it now goes to Paypal for payment.  I was able to complete the transaction and now have an order number.

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« Reply #115 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:33:30 »
Order Number   #1823

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:49:52 »
Sweet, Paypal! Guess I will be ordering the Base, Numpad, Stripe and Spacebar when my money comes in at the end of the month. :D
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:16:40 »
SP just informed me that the checkout issue has been fixed.

Please try now and report any problem.


It seems like we still can't put "blank" in the "State" field. Almost there, SP  :thumb:
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« Reply #118 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:38:12 »
It seems like we still can't put "blank" in the "State" field. Almost there, SP  :thumb:

I just used Alabama :)

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #119 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 11:43:56 »
It seems like we still can't put "blank" in the "State" field. Almost there, SP  :thumb:

I just used Alabama :)
Wouldn't it be printed on the label ??  :-[ I'm not sure my post office is competent enough to not re-post it to the US  :))
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #120 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 12:09:03 »
add in a buyer's note on the paypal receipt not to include AL on the label

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 13:44:00 »
A quick recap on the possible layouts. The additional mods kit includes a hell lot of keys! Not just standard keyboards are covered.

Realforce like


1.5 MODS


FC660


60%


60% ALT


HHKB-like


and so on...

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #122 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 13:45:45 »
The "J" legend is taller than all the other legends. Is that just a artifact of the mockup, or will that be present in the actual set?

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #123 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 13:50:16 »
those are just mockups. Use this as a reference for the legends


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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #124 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 14:15:18 »
 :blank: :blank: :blank: :blank: :blank: :blank:
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #125 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 14:20:47 »
What is the color code for the white plastic that will be used for the set?

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 16:31:55 »
What is the color code for the white plastic that will be used for the set?

WA

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 16:44:33 »
According with Matt comment, the color of the white caps will be the top left one (WA).


The other colors are:


The ABS color codes are: - WHITE: WA - BLACK: NN - YELLOW: YCF - RED: RA - See more at: http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/skull-squadron-additional-mods/#sthash.1p0aHtf4.dpuf

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« Reply #128 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:01:11 »
WFK is the whiter white. WA is just a pinch off-white.

I would also pick a very dark black instead of pure black, but that depends on availability. The darkest grey is lightly bluish, I don't like it.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 19:48:56 »
WFK is the whiter white. WA is just a pinch off-white.

I would also pick a very dark black instead of pure black, but that depends on availability. The darkest grey is lightly bluish, I don't like it.


I really like WA as the base color. WFK seems to me a little too white.

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« Reply #130 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 20:21:48 »
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« Reply #131 on: Fri, 07 February 2014, 23:05:40 »
Just saw that the site is now using Paypal instead of Amazon!  Checkout completed.  Can't wait!... but I will.

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« Reply #132 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 10:37:38 »
am i really only the 4th person to sign up?

well 29 days to go.....

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:12:57 »
I am trying to make my mind regarding the options, could someone tell if an order could be altered after it was sent?


Otherwise, I shall set my final selection since the original order. Please advice.

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« Reply #134 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:37:57 »
I believe that being SP involved directly people is more cautious at placing an order. That is good, imho :) I suspect we will see an increase of orders towards the end of the GB.

Also, I have good news for international orders, it seems SP has finally found cheaper shipping solution. We will probably hear from them next week about it!

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« Reply #135 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:41:26 »
I believe that being SP involved directly people is more cautious at placing an order. That is good, imho :) I suspect we will see an increase of orders towards the end of the GB.

Also, I have good news for international orders, it seems SP has finally found cheaper shipping solution. We will probably hear from them next week about it!


That is awesome for international orders. I will use one of my US address anyway. Can the orders be reviewed after they were set? Please advice.

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« Reply #136 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:47:06 »
That is awesome for international orders. I will use one of my US address anyway. Can the orders be reviewed after they were set? Please advice.

I have to check with SP. I have no direct experience. Anyway I'll probably make an order of all the sets myself, so I will soon discover

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #137 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:54:43 »
That is awesome for international orders. I will use one of my US address anyway. Can the orders be reviewed after they were set? Please advice.

I have to check with SP. I have no direct experience. Anyway I'll probably make an order of all the sets myself, so I will soon discover


Alright. Your experience may enlight us on this. Otherwise, I just should make my mind once and for all and go set my order.  :D
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« Reply #138 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:58:21 »
That is awesome for international orders. I will use one of my US address anyway. Can the orders be reviewed after they were set? Please advice.

I have to check with SP. I have no direct experience. Anyway I'll probably make an order of all the sets myself, so I will soon discover


Alright. Your experience may enlight us on this. Otherwise, I just should make my mind once and for all and go set my order.  :D

what sets are you considering?

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« Reply #139 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:06:40 »
That is awesome for international orders. I will use one of my US address anyway. Can the orders be reviewed after they were set? Please advice.

I have to check with SP. I have no direct experience. Anyway I'll probably make an order of all the sets myself, so I will soon discover


Alright. Your experience may enlight us on this. Otherwise, I just should make my mind once and for all and go set my order.  :D

what sets are you considering?



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« Reply #140 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:10:21 »
I am trying to make my mind regarding the options, could someone tell if an order could be altered after it was sent?

Otherwise, I shall set my final selection since the original order. Please advice.

I can't find a way to see my order and make changes.  I have an order number, but in my history, it shows nothing.  I suspect that feature is not yet... complete.

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« Reply #141 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:16:04 »
Base set
Black stripe
6.25u spacebar
Mods (*)

(*) Not sure about this yet, because I may use the set on my Poker only. But, if I buy the mods it will fit my FC660 as well. And I may get also your upcoming black on beige with proper mods for the FC660 instead.

Always take the mods set! You'd regret not taking them otherwise, you never know where you are going to put the keycaps in a year from now.

I am trying to make my mind regarding the options, could someone tell if an order could be altered after it was sent?

Otherwise, I shall set my final selection since the original order. Please advice.

I can't find a way to see my order and make changes.  I have an order number, but in my history, it shows nothing.  I suspect that feature is not yet... complete.


is it not in your "My Purchases"? Yeah anyway... it seems they rushed it a little, they are fixing it pretty quickly though.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:18:59 »
Matt, your suggestion makes sense, better get them all now when they are available, and not to regret later something is missing, and there were no place to buy it. Thank you for the feedback.

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« Reply #143 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:27:04 »
Also, I have good news for international orders, it seems SP has finally found cheaper shipping solution. We will probably hear from them next week about it!

That's really good news. Let's see what they came up with :)

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« Reply #144 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:52:24 »
I got a shipping cost of more than 20 dollars conus...Is that normal. Even if I just let the base set in the list the shipping cost is that high. Is that normal? It will be recalculated in the next step when I get my conus address captured?

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« Reply #145 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:10:07 »
I can't speak for SP, but I bet prices will be updated if something changes on the way.

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« Reply #146 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:11:07 »
Yeah, seeing that DSA Dolch my never see the light of day (fingers crossed I'm wrong) this will have to fill the gap.

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #147 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:02:55 »
Ordered. Base + Boring Joe's + ISO + Numpad.
The extra mods are a bit pricey for me... Maybe I'll add them at the last minute if the price is down.
Also : 16$ for shipping to france ! That is excellent. I just hope enough people buy the ISO kit to make it happen, else I'm f*cked.
Thanks Matt3o  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #148 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:03:54 »
Hey guys just wanted to give you an updated - we have lowered the international shipping charge from $26 to $15 in hopes that this might help (though at a small cost to ourselves). We are still working out the best way to handle this and hope that you bear with us once we get a few group buys under our belts with the new system.
- Melissa

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Re: [GB] Skull Squadron DSA set (aka: Macross)
« Reply #149 on: Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:41:55 »
Hey guys just wanted to give you an updated - we have lowered the international shipping charge from $26 to $15 in hopes that this might help (though at a small cost to ourselves). We are still working out the best way to handle this and hope that you bear with us once we get a few group buys under our belts with the new system.
- Melissa

that's really a great news, Melissa! Thanks!