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Offline Jixr

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non programable 60% keyboard?
« on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:50:35 »
so i have an odd search.

for power draw reasons a poker 2 wont work, and anything backlit wont work either.

I'm looking for a 60% keyboard that is NON programmable, basically plug in play, no onboard storage, etc.

anything out there?
« Last Edit: Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:54:04 by Jixr »

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Re: non customizable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:53:03 »
poker x?

ducky mini?

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:55:18 »
poker X sounds good, does it not have any programable features?

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:56:27 »
poker X sounds good, does it not have any programable features?


non programable but there is a built in fn layer

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:00:25 »
that may work...

Basically, I want a keyboard for my ipad, and currently have a poker2, but its power draw is too much, so I have to use a little trick by daisy chaining it through a usb hub to get it to work, and would much rather have a straight plug-n-play if possilbe.

( A quckfire rapid and xt both work with their Fn layers, so it should be fine )

Any idea where to buy one?

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:02:16 »
that may work...

Basically, I want a keyboard for my ipad, and currently have a poker2, but its power draw is too much, so I have to use a little trick by daisy chaining it through a usb hub to get it to work, and would much rather have a straight plug-n-play if possilbe.

( A quckfire rapid and xt both work with their Fn layers, so it should be fine )

Any idea where to buy one?

poker x is discontinued but you can look for them on classifieds-one of them just sold today

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:04:59 »
The classifieds seems to be the best place to get one. You may try ebay also, and DT.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:05:41 »
The classifieds seems to be the best place to get one. You may try ebay also, and DT.

ebay won't have them, but DT may. DT is more focused in europe so plan accordingly

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:07:09 »
any idea how much I could expect to pay for one? if they are collectable or are crazy money then I won't bother.

also, anyone know if they are plate mounted or have LED sockets?

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:07:36 »
The classifieds seems to be the best place to get one. You may try ebay also, and DT.

ebay won't have them, but DT may. DT is more focused in europe so plan accordingly


I got my Poker X from ebay, that is why I pointed it.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:09:01 »
The classifieds seems to be the best place to get one. You may try ebay also, and DT.

ebay won't have them, but DT may. DT is more focused in europe so plan accordingly


I got my Poker X from ebay, that is why I pointed it.

When was that and was it from a major seller with 5+ in stock or some random person selling theirs?
any idea how much I could expect to pay for one? if they are collectable or are crazy money then I won't bother.

also, anyone know if they are plate mounted or have LED sockets?

PCB mounted, I do belive you can solder in LEDs

I'm not exactly sure the price, but its not that bad

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:13:22 »
just crawled ebay, didn't find anything.

But in theory, I should be able to add a plate and a case later on.

if I can get a poky x for under $100 i'll be happy.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:24:01 »
I got my Poker from an individual not from a vendor, and it was last year.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:26:58 »
I have a poker 2 with greens currently, and since I don't program anything into it, its really tempting to get an X, and basically port my green switches, LED's, plate, case, etc onto the X PCB.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 22:29:06 »
I prefer the arrows option of the Poker X over the one in the Poker II. Of course you can replicate it somehow with the PN layer.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 23:07:29 »
What if you just get some kind of battery pack to mount inside your existing keyboard?

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 19 March 2014, 23:44:39 »
Leopold FCC0 and HHKB are both 60% and non- programmable. Both are in stock at elitekeyboards.com.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:44:10 »
Leopold FCC0 and HHKB are both 60% and non- programmable. Both are in stock at elitekeyboards.com.

The HHKB Pro 2 has that USB hub which I think may cause issue with power draw.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:18:23 »
Basically, I want a keyboard for my ipad, and currently have a poker2, but its power draw is too much, so I have to use a little trick by daisy chaining it through a usb hub to get it to work, and would much rather have a straight plug-n-play if possilbe.

What I don't get is why you don't want it to be programmable then?
Also why do you want to port your LEDs into a Poker X if they caused the issue before? I think there is also some PCB tinkering involved with getting a Poker X all backlit.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 08:25:17 »
What I don't get is why you don't want it to be programmable then?

because the onboard memory is the power hog. And I never use the program settings on my current poker anyway.



And as far as wiring in a battery to the case, Basically I would need to wire in and hide a PCB off a usb hub into the case, I've tried it before and coulnd't quite figure out how to wire it in.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 08:51:15 »
because the onboard memory is the power hog. And I never use the program settings on my current poker anyway.

Are you sure about that? Should be just some flash memory, does that really draw that much power? Weird.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:09:32 »
FWIW, I've used both the Poker X and the Pure on my iPad without issue. Neither of those are programmable.

I have a couple of Pure keyboards without cases if you're just looking for the PCB and switches. PM me if you're interested.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:39:07 »
The classifieds seems to be the best place to get one. You may try ebay also, and DT.
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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:41:50 »
What the hell is DT?

Deskthority.net, a keyboard forum similar to Geekhack, but a bit more Europe focused. We have a Glossary btw :thumb:

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 13:04:23 »
What I don't get is why you don't want it to be programmable then?

because the onboard memory is the power hog.

I doubt that. The Pure Pro eg. uses an Atmel serial EEPROM, these take around 1mA max. during normal operation and 3mA max. during write. Hardly a "power hog".
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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 13:38:00 »
well, i know my non programable keyboards work fine, but the pokey 2 does not, unless the pcb is just designed to draw more power than the ones on my other mechs.

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 13:41:30 »
well, i know my non programable keyboards work fine, but the pokey 2 does not, unless the pcb is just designed to draw more power than the ones on my other mechs.

You should just mail me your Poker 2. You know, for testing! Yeah, that's it, for testing.  ;)

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 15:21:44 »
well, i know my non programable keyboards work fine, but the pokey 2 does not, unless the pcb is just designed to draw more power than the ones on my other mechs.

So what about the LEDs?

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 15:48:15 »
none of my others have led's aside from the caps lock and such. ( which work )

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Re: non programable 60% keyboard?
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 20 March 2014, 16:24:18 »
none of my others have led's aside from the caps lock and such. ( which work )

So you think that rather than full Backlighting the flash memory is the cause of the power draw? That is some flawed logic.