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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 03:29:43 »


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics
You misunderstood his question, he talked about the sample picture so the green Ecs is ABS double-shot, the thing we're wondering is the keycaps in the photo were BSP made or just the original set from Cherry
He answered it what, it is bsp made blank caps and dye sub done by imsto.

OK ok i understood :) That photo is prototype

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 04:10:30 »
imsto, do you have an estimate for when these will ship? I would like to order but my summer schedule is not set yet  :D

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:49:54 »
How many sets have been ordered?

Also, a GMK spacebar would be great, but is there any realistic way to get a Moogle set made for these? BSP doesn't have the molds, GMK doesn't do PBT as far as I know, Imsto can't match the color, and I don't think SP has any Cherry molds either. If GMK does a doubleshot ABS moogle set, would we be able to match the color? Its hardly ideal, and I am loathe to spend even more money, but this would just be so much more compelling as a complete set.

Edit: or does SP have cherry molds? They did do these: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33562.0
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:13:41 »
Sp profile is similar to cherry but not the same.

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:53:36 »
Just quick question.
What is difference between the weight based shipping and the flat rate shipping?
Both with tracking service internationally?

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:56:35 »
How many sets have been ordered?

Also, a GMK spacebar would be great, but is there any realistic way to get a Moogle set made for these? BSP doesn't have the molds, GMK doesn't do PBT as far as I know, Imsto can't match the color, and I don't think SP has any Cherry molds either. If GMK does a doubleshot ABS moogle set, would we be able to match the color? Its hardly ideal, and I am loathe to spend even more money, but this would just be so much more compelling as a complete set.

Edit: or does SP have cherry molds? They did do these: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33562.0
There is no way.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:39:40 »
imsto, do you have an estimate for when these will ship? I would like to order but my summer schedule is not set yet  :D

not clear yet. but should be after few weeks when GB closed
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 22 April 2014, 04:40:23 »
Just quick question.
What is difference between the weight based shipping and the flat rate shipping?
Both with tracking service internationally?
both got tracking number.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 23 April 2014, 02:45:37 »
I found some photos on otd. I think that is belongs to imsto






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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 24 April 2014, 04:52:27 »
I found some photos on otd. I think that is belongs to imsto

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The keycaps was produced by IMSTO, but not the keyboard and keycaps.  :)

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 24 April 2014, 04:53:20 »


here's the images that token on a keyboard. but should forget the green esc key.
(Attachment Link)
Oh all key is pbt dye-sub except green esc? And all is Cherry old keycaps or BSP keycaps? If that is BSP, BSP fixed arrow issue on Enter cap?

Hi Friend, I believe that:1. The set are all PBT caps; 2. The keycaps are ordered from BSP (Blank Set); and 3. All print is carried out by IMSTO himself thus for the font you can refer to the sample pics

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 24 April 2014, 12:53:26 »
hmm, I'm wondering if bsp corrected the crooked stems?


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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #112 on: Fri, 25 April 2014, 01:22:09 »
hmm, I'm wondering if bsp corrected the crooked stems?



I think if that problem was already fixed or solved later, a lot of people especially Korean guys gonna join this GB more and more.
But I wonder whether BSP even notice that problem or not haha

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 25 April 2014, 18:32:13 »
how does the Russian set look compare to the original one?

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 25 April 2014, 19:06:42 »
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):



Original (photo from eungsam):



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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #115 on: Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:08:38 »
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

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Original (photo from eungsam):

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Thanks! seems the color of the imsto one is sharper, but the legend is rougher

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:16:07 »
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

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Original (photo from eungsam):

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Thanks! seems the color of the imsto one is sharper, but the legend is rougher

Well, aged caps and youthful caps, so take that as you will.  The OG caps are much much sharper and cleaner looking in that photo.

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 25 April 2014, 21:33:48 »
Rough comparison :

Imsto on BSP (not sure who took the photo):

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Original (photo from eungsam):

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Thanks! seems the color of the imsto one is sharper, but the legend is rougher

Well, aged caps and youthful caps, so take that as you will.  The OG caps are much much sharper and cleaner looking in that photo.

That's true

BTW, imsto, will blank keycap also available in this GB?

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #121 on: Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:41:50 »
ooo that RGB will go nice with an OG set

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:08:24 »
Hey guys, I'm interested in buying a set but I don't have a decked out Korean custom. Does anyone know how I can find Cherry A-profile RGBY sets for Winkey layouts, that would match the quality of this set? (preferrably PBT). I believe most of the GBs here are ABS.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:14:56 »
Hey guys, I'm interested in buying a set but I don't have a decked out Korean custom. Does anyone know how I can find Cherry A-profile RGBY sets for Winkey layouts, that would match the quality of this set? (preferrably PBT). I believe most of the GBs here are ABS.
A profile 1.25x modifiers don't exist anywhere.

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« Reply #124 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:31:43 »
Hey guys, I'm interested in buying a set but I don't have a decked out Korean custom. Does anyone know how I can find Cherry A-profile RGBY sets for Winkey layouts, that would match the quality of this set? (preferrably PBT). I believe most of the GBs here are ABS.
A profile 1.25x modifiers don't exist anywhere.

Thanks. What if I'm looking for B profile? Sorry; inexperienced.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:35:21 »
Thanks. What if I'm looking for B profile? Sorry; inexperienced.
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There's no yellow though.

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« Reply #126 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:42:46 »
Thanks. What if I'm looking for B profile? Sorry; inexperienced.
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=53

There's no yellow though.

Are those the original Cherry colors? Seems like the blue is a bit light.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:44:56 »
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.
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« Reply #128 on: Wed, 30 April 2014, 16:47:57 »
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.

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« Reply #129 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 10:29:41 »
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.
it is BSP keycaps, not the 1.25 rgb that i got.

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #130 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:12:47 »
Those are IMSTO's more standard colors of PBT.  They are not made by BSP.
it is BSP keycaps, not the 1.25 rgb that i got.

Interesting, they look like your colors, especially the light blue.
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« Reply #131 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:16:35 »
The 1.25 is not BSP while the 1.5 is. Right?
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« Reply #132 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:22:19 »
The 1.25 is not BSP while the 1.5 is. Right?
Yep, correct. 1.25 is regular imsto. BSP doesn't do 1.25

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« Reply #133 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:28:32 »
Yep, correct. 1.25 is regular imsto. BSP doesn't do 1.25

It's like McDonalds not doing fries  :rolleyes:

I get that the mold would be expensive, I really do, but I find it very hard to believe it would not pay off quickly.
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« Reply #134 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 17:30:43 »
It's like McDonalds not doing fries  :rolleyes:

I get that the mold would be expensive, I really do, but I find it very hard to believe it would not pay off quickly.
I'd rather they fix their right shift mould.. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #135 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:17:09 »
It's like McDonalds not doing fries  :rolleyes:

I get that the mold would be expensive, I really do, but I find it very hard to believe it would not pay off quickly.
I'd rather they fix their right shift mould.. :rolleyes:

Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.
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« Reply #136 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:20:49 »
Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.
Buy GMK 1.25 RGBs.. They are doubleshot ABS. The only 1.25x thick PBT RGB set is the one that imsto sells.

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« Reply #137 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:22:04 »
Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.
Buy GMK 1.25 RGBs.. They are doubleshot ABS. The only 1.25x thick PBT RGB set is the one that imsto sells.

Is there a place where they are readily available for sale? EK has some but the colors are way off.
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« Reply #138 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:23:04 »
Yeah I'm guessing IMSTO misunderstood what we were referring to.  The $25 RGB set looks like IMSTO's PBT and is using 1.25x modifiers--not BSP.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #139 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:26:02 »
Is there a place where they are readily available for sale? EK has some but the colors are way off.
Originative used to stock them. kbdmod might still have some sets : http://kbdmod.co.kr/product/list.html?cate_no=12

I believe feng? is running a GB for them soon. You could also look for them on the classifieds.

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #140 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:54:27 »
Is there a place where they are readily available for sale? EK has some but the colors are way off.
Originative used to stock them. kbdmod might still have some sets : http://kbdmod.co.kr/product/list.html?cate_no=12

I believe feng? is running a GB for them soon. You could also look for them on the classifieds.

I think Feng's GB is done taking orders and possibly just paid for production or is about to. Never know though may still have a chance.

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« Reply #141 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 20:59:43 »
Ah right.. Well in that case there should be some sets on his ebay store soon.

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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #142 on: Fri, 02 May 2014, 21:48:31 »
Ai, do you guys know what is the closest I can get to 1.25 RGB modifiers that are Cherry B profile with the original GKM colors? IMSTO's colors seem rather off.

Maybe the colour of the RGB is not what you expect. But I think if you really need 1.25 PBT modifiers, you should go for Imsto's PBT one.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #143 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 03:02:22 »
So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

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« Reply #144 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 03:55:45 »
So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

Yeah sure because keyset is not made by SP  :p

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« Reply #145 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 05:43:12 »
So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

sure will be lowering price, but that's the story of a lot of orders, and by "a lot" I mean >400

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« Reply #146 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 09:40:03 »
The 1.25 is not BSP while the 1.5 is. Right?

yes, right.

So this "group-buy" is just basically a static priced pre-order? No chance of actually lowering the price if more people commit?

sure will be lowering price, but that's the story of a lot of orders, and by "a lot" I mean >400

that's right... I know the gb is realy hard to reach 300, not even 400. just like Ivan's black keys GB.
what I can do is provide a lower price that I can do then make it.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #147 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 10:37:34 »
ok, to make it lower. here's a GB price

basic price 135$
orders----> 100    -5$

orders----> 200    -10$

orders----> 300    -15$
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #148 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 10:40:22 »
as to the GB of the plate. I think it is cheap enough, the ammount that will be produced depends on the orders.
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Re: BSP PBT keyset with dyesub printed 102 pcs keycaps Group buy pre order
« Reply #149 on: Sat, 03 May 2014, 10:40:32 »
ok, to make it lower. here's a GB price

basic price 135$
orders----> 100    -5$

orders----> 200    -10$

orders----> 300    -15$

Hey Imsto, should I check out now from my shopping cart, or wait? I'm not sure how the lowering price works. Is there a coupon code?
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