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Offline misterkenny

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IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 18:08:39 »
I've recently purchased an IBM Model M (PN 1391401) and I love it. The trouble is that, after a full day of typing, my hands and wrists become fatigued. I know that Originative sells replacement springs for Cherry switches, but does anyone make lighter springs for a Model M? Or is it a standard size that I might be able to find at a hardware store? Thank you for any and all help.

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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 18:12:02 »
That's one of the main reasons I love Model F's; lighter actuation force.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 18:59:26 »
You would realistically need to do a bolt mod, if you haven't already.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:12:10 »
You would realistically need to do a bolt mod, if you haven't already.

Not at all.  The springs can be swapped no problem without any disassembly beyond pulling the keys and springs.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:30:46 »
That's one of the main reasons I love Model F's; lighter actuation force.
I have measured the actuation forces to be the same. They just "feel" lighter due to a number of factors.

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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:41:43 »
Unicomp's replacement springs felt lighter to me than IBM-manufactured Model M springs. I also found Lexmark-manufactured
Model Ms to have a lighter feel than the earlier IBM-manufactured Model M keyboards. However, I never took the time to measure
actuation force on any of the above. Rather than scientific, my observations were subjective.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 20:59:53 »
That's one of the main reasons I love Model F's; lighter actuation force.
I have measured the actuation forces to be the same. They just "feel" lighter due to a number of factors.
I'm seeing about a 10g difference, myself. I just measured an average of 60g for my F-122 vs. 70g for my Model M. Your mileage may vary, though.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 21:23:54 »
Not at all.  The springs can be swapped no problem without any disassembly beyond pulling the keys and springs.

I have never done the chopstick of death, even once. I assumed that doing it 100+ times would be a major hassle. And how certain can you be that they are all seated properly and uniformly?

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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 10 May 2014, 09:02:23 »
Not at all.  The springs can be swapped no problem without any disassembly beyond pulling the keys and springs.

I have never done the chopstick of death, even once. I assumed that doing it 100+ times would be a major hassle. And how certain can you be that they are all seated properly and uniformly?

They seat easily, it's like putting a small metal cylinder on a plastic post.   First time doing it may take longer but you can get the hang of it quickly.
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