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Offline misterkenny

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IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 18:08:39 »
I've recently purchased an IBM Model M (PN 1391401) and I love it. The trouble is that, after a full day of typing, my hands and wrists become fatigued. I know that Originative sells replacement springs for Cherry switches, but does anyone make lighter springs for a Model M? Or is it a standard size that I might be able to find at a hardware store? Thank you for any and all help.

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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 18:12:02 »
That's one of the main reasons I love Model F's; lighter actuation force.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 18:59:26 »
You would realistically need to do a bolt mod, if you haven't already.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:12:10 »
You would realistically need to do a bolt mod, if you haven't already.

Not at all.  The springs can be swapped no problem without any disassembly beyond pulling the keys and springs.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:30:46 »
That's one of the main reasons I love Model F's; lighter actuation force.
I have measured the actuation forces to be the same. They just "feel" lighter due to a number of factors.

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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:41:43 »
Unicomp's replacement springs felt lighter to me than IBM-manufactured Model M springs. I also found Lexmark-manufactured
Model Ms to have a lighter feel than the earlier IBM-manufactured Model M keyboards. However, I never took the time to measure
actuation force on any of the above. Rather than scientific, my observations were subjective.
« Last Edit: Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:49:29 by aref »

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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 20:59:53 »
That's one of the main reasons I love Model F's; lighter actuation force.
I have measured the actuation forces to be the same. They just "feel" lighter due to a number of factors.
I'm seeing about a 10g difference, myself. I just measured an average of 60g for my F-122 vs. 70g for my Model M. Your mileage may vary, though.
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 09 May 2014, 21:23:54 »
Not at all.  The springs can be swapped no problem without any disassembly beyond pulling the keys and springs.

I have never done the chopstick of death, even once. I assumed that doing it 100+ times would be a major hassle. And how certain can you be that they are all seated properly and uniformly?

"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: IBM Model M - lighter springs?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 10 May 2014, 09:02:23 »
Not at all.  The springs can be swapped no problem without any disassembly beyond pulling the keys and springs.

I have never done the chopstick of death, even once. I assumed that doing it 100+ times would be a major hassle. And how certain can you be that they are all seated properly and uniformly?

They seat easily, it's like putting a small metal cylinder on a plastic post.   First time doing it may take longer but you can get the hang of it quickly.
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