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Same Sex Marriage
« on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:42:16 »
Well, this topic's been in the news a lot recently. How do you feel about it? You think the federal government in the United States should mandate the recognition of same-sex marriage?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:42:56 »
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:43:51 »
Do you feel that federal recognition of same sex marriage will be harmful to the United States as a whole?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:48:10 »
I think the US Govt should mandate same sex marriage.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:51:24 »
I still think it's pretty shameful its taken this long to even be an issue... though its cute how people use religion to defend homophobic opinions like that's a valid stance...

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:51:53 »
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:52:56 »
I once heard a great piece related to this on 4chan.

"If someone makes you horny, have sex with them. It's not my business what or who you do in your free time."

I thought that that was... surprisingly profound for /b/.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:54:06 »
I once heard a great piece related to this on 4chan.

"If someone makes you horny, have sex with them. It's not my business what or who you do in your free time."

I thought that that was... surprisingly profound for /b/.

Some things that make people horny are illegal. Just saying.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:54:13 »
I once heard a great piece related to this on 4chan.

"If someone makes you horny, have sex with them. It's not my business what or who you do in your free time."

I thought that that was... surprisingly profound for /b/.

Plot twist they were probably talking about children.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:54:42 »
well i mean it is 4chan
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:55:19 »
I seriously don't understand why people even care what other people choose to do with their lives.

The most gay thing you can do is to meddle with what another man does with his body.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 17:57:32 »
I seriously don't understand why people even care what other people choose to do with their lives.

The most gay thing you can do is to meddle with what another man does with his body.

Well it's only gay if you take a hands on approach.
Also that's sexist.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:12:51 »
Whom someone wants to spend their life with is entirely up to them, what they do to each other with consent from both parts is also entirely up to themselves, as long as they are not breaking any laws. Why should the government dictate who they can marry and not, apart from the two parts not being the legal age? I think it is their own business. Of course they should not go around and try to "convert" people and pressure them into doing things they do not want, but otherwise I don't see any problem in same sex marriage.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:15:12 »
Any human should be able to marry any human with consent.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:24:59 »
Any human should be able to marry any human with consent.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:25:17 »
I'm all for it.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:29:49 »
Any human should be able to marry any human with consent.
Even themselves?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:31:18 »
I don't believe in Same Sex marriage. I'm fine with whoever people live with and have sex with, but marriage is something sacred to religion, and redefining that isn't right.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:32:30 »
I once heard a great piece related to this on 4chan.

"If someone makes you horny, have sex with them. It's not my business what or who you do in your free time."

I thought that that was... surprisingly profound for /b/.

Some things that make people horny are illegal. Just saying.

just change it to 'mutually horny'?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:32:59 »
I don't believe in Same Sex marriage. I'm fine with whoever people live with and have sex with, but marriage is something sacred to religion, and redefining that isn't right.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:35:06 »
do usa commonlaws get tax benefits as well?  or do gay/lesbians couples even get to apply as commonlaw?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 18:36:01 »
I don't think the government should recognize any sort of marriage. I think it should be left to the people / churches.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:22:31 »
Dis gun be stupid  :confused:

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:24:35 »
I don't think the government should recognize any sort of marriage. I think it should be left to the people / churches.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:25:19 »
Dis gun be stupid  :confused:

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:30:33 »
Same sex marriage being legally recognized = common sense in my opinion. BTW inb4 thread locked
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:32:49 »
I don't think the government should recognize any sort of marriage. I think it should be left to the people / churches.

...after all, we are supposed to have a separation of church and State here in the US.
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:35:03 »
Dis gun be stupid  :confused:

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:39:06 »
I don't believe in Same Sex marriage. I'm fine with whoever people live with and have sex with, but marriage is something sacred to religion, and redefining that isn't right.

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It's sacred to religions, but it's not like all religions just decided that gays can't get married, so technically it would not be redefining anything. I think that marriage is not just a religious right but a human right. People do not just get married for religious reasons, it is the natural pairing up of two people and the government should not be able to restrict that. Separation of church and state and also just human rights.

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:40:05 »
Dis gun be stupid  :confused:

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 20:52:26 »
I don't believe in Same Sex marriage. I'm fine with whoever people live with and have sex with, but marriage is something sacred to religion, and redefining that isn't right.

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It's sacred to religions, but it's not like all religions just decided that gays can't get married, so technically it would not be redefining anything. I think that marriage is not just a religious right but a human right. People do not just get married for religious reasons, it is the natural pairing up of two people and the government should not be able to restrict that. Separation of church and state and also just human rights.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 22:12:05 »
I don't believe in Same Sex marriage. I'm fine with whoever people live with and have sex with, but marriage is something sacred to religion, and redefining that isn't right.

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It's sacred to religions, but it's not like all religions just decided that gays can't get married, so technically it would not be redefining anything. I think that marriage is not just a religious right but a human right. People do not just get married for religious reasons, it is the natural pairing up of two people and the government should not be able to restrict that. Separation of church and state and also just human rights.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 22:20:17 »
I don't believe in Same Sex marriage. I'm fine with whoever people live with and have sex with, but marriage is something sacred to religion, and redefining that isn't right.

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It's sacred to religions, but it's not like all religions just decided that gays can't get married, so technically it would not be redefining anything. I think that marriage is not just a religious right but a human right. People do not just get married for religious reasons, it is the natural pairing up of two people and the government should not be able to restrict that. Separation of church and state and also just human rights.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 22:33:42 »
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 11 May 2014, 23:42:34 »
what old ass religion, that is a religion(which is really a cult) that was first written on parchment (ghetto paper), recognizes and won't burn you at the stake for wanting gay marriage?

some are neutral, like hindu,

most are violent and want to burn you alive like islam and christianity.

if you don't believe in 3000 year old folk tales that were recently put down on paper, i don't know why anyone would be against it.

like all politicians have proved to us, the vocal majority that are against something, are usually in the closet about it.

i really don't care, i'm not going to be against it or for it, whatever adam and steve do, on adam and steve time is their own damn business, including getting married.

if they want to force the legal marriage issue, that's their right,

if however they want to force dumb ass choir boy loving priests to recognize them and perform ceremonies for them, then that's stupid.

this imo, also holds true for business' that do NOT want to deal with gay marriage.

like for instance
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/20/state-rules-oregon-bakery-that-refused-to-make-a-gay-wedding-cake-violated-lesbian-couples-civil-rights/

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http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/258704731.html (different state, it's a bill)

i don't get it, if you're a family run business and i'm pretty sure most small business bakeries and family run, with their own family values, why do they HAVE to make a gay wedding cake?

why do you have to service every customer? sometimes a customer is an *******, and sometimes a customer wants you to put adam and steve on a wedding, which makes you a christian fellow, vomit twice inside.

it's not like they're actively hating on gays, they just don't want to vomit on the inside creating a cake especially for gays, pretty sure if they put out a basic wedding cake and a lesbian bought it from them, no one would care.

plus, why force the issue, goto another cake place, plus don't you have to taste the cake and talk to the baker first? i mean that's what i did for my wedding cake, we spent 2 days talking to every baker and tasting all the cake. pretty sure if an adam and steve came in for this the baker would immediately go "oh i'm christian so i won't bake you a cake"

sure!

next baker on the appointment list... you know what, let's call every baker and say "hey we're gay, is that a problem for you?"

plus this is good for business, isn't it? the next week you should see "sweet gay bakery, we bake gay cakes, all the other christians won't" and be rolling in money, might have to make a few YMCA cakes, oh well.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:44:14 »
Like racism, it only matters cause we still talk about it.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:52:17 »
i think people do a lot more than talk.
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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 00:59:27 »
i think people do a lot more than talk.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:17:58 »
I'm not even for any marriage
You don't love someone more because you wasted resources and shoved a ring on that person's finger and had a bunch of people look at you and a man in robes saying things
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:38:59 »
Dis gun be stupid  :confused:

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:53:46 »
i hate clocks. we should ban clocks.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:54:23 »
Just a heads up that this thread will be locked if it veers even slightly off-course.

State your opinions.  Argue by addressing the opinions of others calmly and clearly.  Don't bash gay people.  Don't bash religious people.  Don't bash non-gay and/or non-religious people who happen to disagree with you.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 01:55:18 »
Just a heads up that this thread will be locked if it veers even slightly off-course.

State your opinions.  Argue by addressing the opinions of others calmly and clearly.  Don't bash gay people.  Don't bash religious people.  Don't bash non-gay and/or non-religious people who happen to disagree with you.

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 02:32:24 »
I support hating clocks if you also include watches as clocks.  otherwise, you're a dirty watch lover.  ewwwww
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 02:44:18 »
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 03:19:19 »
Dis gun be stupid  :confused:

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 03:21:25 »
Let me just add some real facts about gay marriage and 'the sanctimony of marriage'.
Especially as someone coming from a country where it has been legal for well over 10 years.



If anything, making gay marriage legal has preserved it. Notice the large dip in both 2002 and 2003?
It would be easier to attribute divorce rates to the economic situations than to this.

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Offline Novus

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 03:24:54 »
Let me just add some real facts about gay marriage and 'the sanctimony of marriage'.
Especially as someone coming from a country where it has been legal for well over 10 years.

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If anything, making gay marriage legal has preserved it. Notice the large dip in both 2002 and 2003?
It would be easier to attribute divorce rates to the economic situations than to this.

/thread

That's a great graph! I love facts!
Clearly the looming, pressing and immediate threat of terrorism instilled the fear of God in all of us.
I'm glad UBL is dead now.
Now we don't have to fear divine retribution for divorces.
Thank Go...  I mean goodness!
« Last Edit: Mon, 12 May 2014, 03:27:48 by the1onewolf »

Offline noisyturtle

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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 12 May 2014, 03:30:08 »