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Offline 1391406

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Model F problem
« on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:17:57 »
I have two terminal Model F's, and it seems my backup is experiencing a curious issue. My right arrow is registering as both, the right arrow and Numpad 4, resulting in the number 4 being displayed followed by a cursor movement to the right when actuated. Aqua Key Test confirms that it's registering both keys. HID listen displays the following when the right arrow is actuated:

r6B +5C d5C r6A +4F d4F
rF0 r6B -5C u5C rF0 r6A -4F u4F

I've already tried re-seating the key cap multiple times to no avail. I then tried to remap the right arrow to, well, the right arrow, but I don't know how to un-assign Numpad 4 to it.

Any ideas?
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:54:27 »
Next thing I would do is open it up and clean it.
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:55:37 »
Though if you're using Soarer's stuff and you don't use the numpad I believe you can map a key to nul.
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 10:02:16 »
Though if you're using Soarer's stuff and you don't use the numpad I believe you can map a key to nul.

I'll try that for the heck of it.

Okay that worked, which sucks because I actually do use the Numpad from time to time. Thanks for the suggestion, by the way.
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 10:33:01 »
Odd that it should manifest in the 4 and not the 1.

Could you have debris floating around in the underworld?
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 11:06:25 »
Odd that it should manifest in the 4 and not the 1.

Could you have debris floating around in the underworld?


Quite possibly, as this is the Model F I performed the ANSI mod on.
« Last Edit: Mon, 04 August 2014, 18:25:38 by 1391406 »
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 18:26:02 »
By the way, what's the best way to clean the PCB? Damp cloth? No alcohol, I assume.
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 04 August 2014, 22:23:20 »
By the way, what's the best way to clean the PCB? Damp cloth? No alcohol, I assume.

alcohol should be fine.

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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 23:31:59 »
UPDATE:

Okay, so the problem turned out to be that I had both, my F-122 and AEK plugged in simultaneously. Once I unplugged the AEK, the F-122's key registration issues resolved themselves.
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Re: Model F problem
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 07:17:54 »
It has been my experience that a Teensy does not play well with others, and that only one Teensy is allowed at a time.
Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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