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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #700 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 18:57:26 »
Hey, if we reach a discount tier, can we get super cool Strg keys?

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #701 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 19:46:37 »
The nice thing about matching the real deal is that no one can moan and argue about the color choices anymore. Oh wait, never mind.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #702 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 21:05:25 »
Here are a couple images from the board:



There's no doubt that the teal will be PERFECT.

The main variable I think will be the alpha base, as this set looks to have aged to a beige/tan more than a gray. When we had this discussion last time, most people, myself included, liked both but preferred the gray.

Obviously I'll need to take a look in person, but another idea occurred to me today. I have these Triumph Adler typewriter keycaps, and I think these are an absolutely perfect shade of gray, as well as w/ the right legend color:



I'll definitely post pics with the teal mods and these alphas when I have everything, as I think that might be exactly the combo we are looking for.  :thumb:
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #703 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 21:16:57 »
it's beautiful  :eek: the teal legends also look much better in your photos than on GMK renders. but i assume we'll stick to blue? nah blue is still better
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #704 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 21:23:26 »
it's beautiful  :eek: the teal legends also look much better in your photos than on GMK renders. but i assume we'll stick to blue? nah blue is still better

I agree the blue is still better, but also I think that photo is a bit washed out. In other photos I have, the legends look much darker. Also to some degree I think it's an optical illusion, if you load it into photoshop you'll find that the legends do actually average darker than the mods in that photo.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #705 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 21:26:08 »
I really like the color of the TA typewriter caps for the alphas.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #706 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 21:38:33 »
if you load it into photoshop you'll find that the legends do actually average darker than the mods in that photo.
that's an issue with saving photos on the net onto your computer, there's always some kind of alteration where the newly saved photo loses a little vibrancy in color

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #707 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 12:08:28 »
^ Never heard of that before. Why would that happen?

This thread's TL; DR is: on-screen colors are a nightmare.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #708 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 16:05:44 »
For the alpha legends, I would like you to stick with the pantone color you already selected. The legends on the TA typewriter keys are basically unaged. Most TA typewriter sets I've seen pictures of are for some reason. I use those as a guide for how the original 286 boards' colors may have looked. You might as well go with the standard V4 if you wanted to pick that color. Using the grey color of the TA typewriter caps is fine with me though. The alpha legends on your board look really teal in that pic - almost the same color as the mods. Never seen one like that, but I bet it may look a bit different in person.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #709 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 16:20:10 »
I have been watching this thread since the initial post, and though I haven't had much time to participate I really like what has been presented. I don't have anything to add to the color discussion, and I feel confident that with this many discerning eyes the outcome will be perfect. I can't wait to order a couple sets. Keep up the good work, and remember you efforts are appreciated!

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #710 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 16:32:57 »
intelli, quick question.

Is the new board going to effect the timeline of the GB? Or are we going to be able to get it started soon?

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #711 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:22:17 »
Oh yes, this confirms that I have to use my savings account, I consider myself wallethacked already...

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #712 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:32:59 »
Once this comes along I will have to get 2 sets

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #713 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:48:27 »
Once this comes along I will have to get 2 sets

Gotta make sure we can hit that MOQ! and gotta have some extras of this once in a lifetime set.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #714 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:54:12 »
Once this comes along I will have to get 2 sets

Gotta make sure we can hit that MOQ! and gotta have some extras of this once in a lifetime set.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #715 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 18:03:16 »
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The color of the mods in this pic looks perfect, if the final product matches those this set will look absolutely incredible.

The way your photos present the color of the legends makes them look very close the same color of blue/teal as the mods and I'm actually glad it looks that way because it makes me more convinced the right color for the legends is the darker blue. It will provide a better contrast against the grey alphas and makes the set look more polished and professional.

Are the legends on the double-shot win keys going to look like those purple ones posted?

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Still finalizing colors, another board acquired]
« Reply #716 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:26:15 »
Damn... that TA board is gorgeous intelli. Congrats on that find! This buy is getting better and better.

I still think I prefer the pantone blue and grey over the alphas on the TA board though, if I'm being honest. But that new teal is perfect. :thumb:

So, I take it the release is bumped back a week? Pretty sure I gotta get two of these sets, so any prep time is good :p.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions - want input]
« Reply #717 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:29:26 »
Ok bros. Looks like this is going to go live on Massdrop on Tuesday:thumb: And some really great news: unless something unfortunate happens between now and then, it looks like we will get $99.99 pricing if we hit 500  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: This includes everything in the mockup + cardboard box packing by GMK! AMAZE!! Massdrop is really delivering.

The last thing I am still trying to decide is the alpha base color. As mentioned above the teal will come from my incoming TA board, which appears to have really nice teal with plenty of blue in it, not the dark sea green seen on some boards. But we have 2 options for the alpha base:

1. Copy the TA typewriter gray I posted above. Mockup:



2. Copy the caps on my incoming TA board which are more beige. Mockup:



Final thoughts on this? I have leaned toward gray the whole time... but there's something about the beige and the yellow/brown values in it that really complement the teal well. I think the beige version looks a lot livelier and pops more, actually. I guess my opinion has changed. But I don't have a strong preference. Either one is going to be great.

Provide your input please.

On another note, I'll re-emphasize I'm really glad we're getting a real board instead of messing with Pantones. ;D I was getting pretty nervous about how those would translate to plastic and how much different the outcome might be vs. what we were aiming for, given that there'd be no second chance if things just didn't look right in the end. Sending in real caps is so much better because we know exactly what we'll get. If I could go back in time, I'd focus all efforts on obtaining real samples rather than ****ing around with other methods. This set is gonna be the greatest ever.  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:33:01 by intelli78 »
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions - want input]
« Reply #718 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:36:13 »
I really like the grey but the beige feels right and looks great. I'd say we go with beige, it's warmer and seems comfy. I also agree that it pops more.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions - want input]
« Reply #719 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:43:52 »
Personally I'm in the grey camp, I prefer the cooler look as it matches the mods better.
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« Reply #720 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:56:00 »
i prefer the gray, if only because there's something unnatural about that beige photo.. probably because of the 'shop. as with most other choices on this set i'll defer to what the masses want

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #721 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 02:57:33 »
I agree about the warm tones in the beige and I like it too. Grey would be more versatile if people wanted to mix with other mods in future perhaps. I'm happy either way really. I'm not going to obsess of those two colours since I like 'em both.

Thanks for all the effort you put into this. I hope we can reach that 500 mark.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #722 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:05:25 »
i don't want to jinx it, but with that pricing we can hit 500 and more no problem

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #723 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:07:49 »
I like them both, but I'm leaning a little more towards the TA typewriter gray .
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« Reply #724 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:13:45 »
My vote goes to grey!
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #725 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:22:40 »
Grey makes this feel like the soulfree teal set, beige is closer to how the sets look and makes it much more unique.

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« Reply #726 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:25:24 »
Grey makes this feel like the soulfree teal set, beige is closer to how the sets look and makes it much more unique.

#TeamBeige  :cool:

The teal set had white alphas though?
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #727 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:29:11 »
Grey makes this feel like the soulfree teal set, beige is closer to how the sets look and makes it much more unique.

#TeamBeige  :cool:

The teal set had white alphas though?

I thought it was light grey, either way I feel like going with grey is half assing this set.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #728 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:29:48 »
My vote goes to the grey alphas.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions - want input]
« Reply #729 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 04:19:09 »
it looks like we will get $99.99 pricing if we hit 500  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

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« Reply #730 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 04:55:02 »
if you guys are wondering why image colors are different, there are a multitude of reasons.

for starters, possibly:

1.  people are editing jpg files
2.  people are sending out pngs without icc profiles

i'm not sure how much of a big deal this is at this point, but just fyi.

the fix:  everyone needs to calibrate their screens and use the same programs for viewing and editing.  there's actually probably a lot more steps i left out.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #731 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 05:10:50 »
I think the cold grey looks better and the cold grey spacebar would fit better to dyesubs/doubleshots from TA typewriters.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #732 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 05:47:07 »
#TeamBeige

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« Reply #733 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:07:22 »
Sorry Team Beige, I persinally like the cooler grey better.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #734 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:33:04 »
Gray all the freaking way.
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« Reply #735 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:38:44 »
Grey for me as well.
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« Reply #736 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:40:15 »
I like beige as well.

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« Reply #737 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:44:56 »
Is it grey or gray?
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« Reply #738 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:56:58 »
I like the grey better

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« Reply #739 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:20:03 »
one more vote for grey. :)
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #740 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:26:07 »
I vote for the grey. That pricing is awesome, I'm totally ready for this to go live.  :)
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #741 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:30:47 »
I like the gray, beige makes it look like the set is yellowed and old

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« Reply #742 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:44:44 »
Is it grey or gray?
That depends on where you live, the US or the UK. ;)

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« Reply #743 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:45:19 »
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« Reply #744 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:46:31 »
Gray for me, sorry beige.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #745 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:52:19 »
Through all the process of setting up this set we (almost) all have trusted intelli78 decisions. I say to trust him one more final time and go beige.

Why? Unless you have a calibrated monitor, no pic will be accurate to show the colors as they really are. And intelli78 finally bought the board, he knows what he's looking at.

People seems to have developed an aversion to beige colors, maybe due to the fact that in the Old Days™ almost everything in PCs was beige: keyboards, computer cases, tube monitors, you name it. But if the purpose of this keycap set is to pay tribute to those times then beige is the no-brainer choice.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions - want input]
« Reply #746 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:57:26 »
Ok bros. Looks like this is going to go live on Massdrop on Tuesday:thumb: And some really great news: unless something unfortunate happens between now and then, it looks like we will get $99.99 pricing if we hit 500  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: This includes everything in the mockup + cardboard box packing by GMK! AMAZE!! Massdrop is really delivering.

The last thing I am still trying to decide is the alpha base color. As mentioned above the teal will come from my incoming TA board, which appears to have really nice teal with plenty of blue in it, not the dark sea green seen on some boards. But we have 2 options for the alpha base:

1. Copy the TA typewriter gray I posted above. Mockup:

Show Image


2. Copy the caps on my incoming TA board which are more beige. Mockup:

Show Image


Final thoughts on this? I have leaned toward gray the whole time... but there's something about the beige and the yellow/brown values in it that really complement the teal well. I think the beige version looks a lot livelier and pops more, actually. I guess my opinion has changed. But I don't have a strong preference. Either one is going to be great.

Provide your input please.

On another note, I'll re-emphasize I'm really glad we're getting a real board instead of messing with Pantones. ;D I was getting pretty nervous about how those would translate to plastic and how much different the outcome might be vs. what we were aiming for, given that there'd be no second chance if things just didn't look right in the end. Sending in real caps is so much better because we know exactly what we'll get. If I could go back in time, I'd focus all efforts on obtaining real samples rather than ****ing around with other methods. This set is gonna be the greatest ever.  :thumb:
How long will it run on MD?
99.99$ means 2 sets for me :p

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #747 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 08:02:07 »
intelli78, have a mod set up a poll for you in this thread. Then people can vote whether they prefer grey or beige.
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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions - want input]
« Reply #748 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 08:03:15 »
Personally I'm in the grey camp, I prefer the cooler look as it matches the mods better.

+1 for grey. It matches much better than the beige.

I will very likely end up buying two sets of these as well.

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Re: [IC]GMK Triumph Adler [Final color decisions w/ new mockups - want input]
« Reply #749 on: Fri, 20 March 2015, 08:04:56 »
Grey = cool
Beige = warm

Are the teal mods warm or cool? Thought so. ;)
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