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Offline Poostar

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Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 17:43:24 »
I am really leaning towards a WASD TKL keyboard with blue switches. 150$. Also considering the CM Quickfire due to the price being a little cheaper. Any pros or cons i should know about either one? Any other brands i should be considering?

I currently am using a RGB K70 by corsair with red switches but i really dont care for them and am looking to trade it for a RGB K70 with browns.

Thanks ahead for any info, new to this community but i really enjoy geekhack so far
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 17:46:15 »
Quote from: Poostar on Sun, 21 December 2014, 17:43:24
I am really leaning towards a WASD TKL keyboard with blue switches. 150$. Also considering the CM Quickfire due to the price being a little cheaper. Any pros or cons i should know about either one? Any other brands i should be considering?

I currently am using a RGB K70 by corsair with red switches but i really dont care for them and am looking to trade it for a RGB K70 with browns.

Thanks ahead for any info, new to this community but i really enjoy geekhack so far

Both are great boards for starting out! all I would say is that if you plan to do any gaming blues are not a good choice, also I would go with the cheaper one so that you can leave some space in your budget for some new caps in the future!
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 18:07:36 »
Quickfire Rapid?  Excellent board - I have two of them.

Also consider a Ducky - the Ducky Zero is without backlighting if it is not to your taste.

The KUL ES-87 is also said to be very good.

For most of these you can find user reviews in the reviews area.
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 18:08:16 »
KUL (keyed up labs) are some of the best mid range stock boards you can buy for the money. Also look into filco
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 18:56:28 »
Cherry mx switches are my least favorite, but in this line of keyboards, I prefer boards with Costar-type stabilizers over Cherry stabilizers. This is because, to me at least, the Costar-type stabilizers provide a crisp and even response in the stabilized keys, whereas Cherry stabilizers then to make these keys feel mushy. Keyboards that use Costar-type stabilizers include some in the CM lineup along with Filco and WASD Keyboards. I have a WASD V2 87 Barebones with mx Browns; it is a good board, and the customer service at WASD is terrific.
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 19:02:23 »
After buying my Filco its hard for me to recommend anything else. Only reason I would recommend something different is if they really wanted backlighting. Go for the beige version and trick kit out. (Might be hard to find w/ blue switches though.)
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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 19:03:58 »
Filco are generally excellent (albeit with non-removable cable), but they do come at a premium.
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 19:04:31 »
Backlit = Ducky Shine 3
Not = Filco, KUL.  Or still Shine 3.

Budget = Quickfire Stealth.  65 bucks NEW on Massdrop.  I'm sure you cab get used for 40-50
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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 19:06:59 »
CODE is another option if you want backlit, but seems to be available only with MX clear or green.
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 23:20:15 »
Quote from: Poostar on Sun, 21 December 2014, 17:43:24
I am really leaning towards a WASD TKL keyboard with blue switches. 150$. Also considering the CM Quickfire due to the price being a little cheaper. Any pros or cons i should know about either one? Any other brands i should be considering?

I currently am using a RGB K70 by corsair with red switches but i really dont care for them and am looking to trade it for a RGB K70 with browns.

Thanks ahead for any info, new to this community but i really enjoy geekhack so far

There is also the Novatouch if you are interested in testing out Topre.
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Offline Poostar

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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 23:26:24 »
I like the cherry mx over topre. I also really like white back lighting. Just trying to make sure i am not getting ripped by going with a WASD keyboard. Any clue on how long they take to be shipped after ordering?
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 01:42:53 »
You really can't go wrong with the WASD.  They make great keyboards.  I have three of them and everyone on my company uses them.
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Offline Poostar

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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 24 December 2014, 11:17:15 »
Decided to go with the WASD. Thank you everyone for your input! Anyone have a clue how long they usually tale to ship?
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 24 December 2014, 11:42:29 »
Quote from: Poostar on Wed, 24 December 2014, 11:17:15
Decided to go with the WASD. Thank you everyone for your input! Anyone have a clue how long they usually tale to ship?
As long as you don't order a custom set, they ship pretty quickly
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 24 December 2014, 18:14:08 »
I got different color keycaps but i didn't have anything printed on to them
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Re: Buying my first TKL Keyboard. Opinions please
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 25 December 2014, 02:30:15 »
You should enjoy your purchase.  Mind letting us know what set up you got?   What switches, key colors and such?  Just curious.
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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 26 December 2014, 08:20:05 »
Blue switches on the 87 key version WASD v2 key caps i went with a light shade of gray for the alphanumerical, and a dark shade of grey for all the surrounding keys
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