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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 05 February 2015, 16:03:51 »
the deed is done! I added dental bands to each of the sliders and I'm seriously enjoying the results so far. I didn't think of it at first, but this mod has eliminated two problems I had with stock HHKB. The upstroke clatter is now substantially dampened and basically goes unheard. Great success here.

Secondly, one of the problems I sometimes had after keypresses was that my fingers would bump adjacent keys as I was moving my fingers and preparing to downpress another one close by. This probably occurred because of the height differential between the fully depressed key, and the height of an unpressed key that's right next to it. As MJ45 said, the dental band actually affects the travel by lowering the start point of the key, which I realized after seeing how the sliders worked.

So far, so good. I'll need to break in this mod for a few days and get a solid feel. This still feels like HHKB and the great feel is still there.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:46:14 »
Forgive my lack of expertise/knowledge re installing dental bands on a Topre switch; but can anyone point me toward a video or still-image how-to perform this modification on a Topre switch? I appreciate the assist.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:51:32 »
Quote from: aref on Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:46:14
Forgive my lack of expertise/knowledge re installing dental bands on a Topre switch; but can anyone point me toward a video or still-image how-to perform this modification on a Topre switch? I appreciate the assist.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44692.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61002.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45141.0
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:57:25 »
Rowdy: I appreciate the links; thanks, mate.

Now I understand the modification on a Topre switch. Thanks to you and spiceBar's authored post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 05 February 2015, 19:36:01 »
Quote from: aref on Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:57:25
Rowdy: I appreciate the links; thanks, mate.

Now I understand the modification on a Topre switch. Thanks to you and spiceBar's authored post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0

Welcome :)

I think dustin did another very good one, but couldn't find it at short notice.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 06 February 2015, 21:14:06 »
GH, I have an opportunity to pick up an HHKB Lite2 (black) for $60. I now it's not a Topre board, but is it worth getting? Thanks.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 06 February 2015, 21:19:19 »
not sure about this one, but it's a pretty old keyboard and you'd be regressing lots  :)
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 06 February 2015, 21:23:05 »
Quote from: aref on Fri, 06 February 2015, 21:14:06
GH, I have an opportunity to pick up an HHKB Lite2 (black) for $60. I now it's not a Topre board, but is it worth getting? Thanks.
Id say no. Not really worth it. The Pro is much much better
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 06 February 2015, 21:24:25 »
I thought this might be fun to use until I get an HHKB Pro 2. But I have no idea how the membrane key switches feel.

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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 06 February 2015, 21:25:58 »
I'll put the $60 toward my HHKB Pro 2. Thanks for the feedback, guys.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 08 February 2015, 18:47:31 »
Just went to EK to order a black/printed HHKB. The info page shows stock, but when I went to checkout, no stock. Black and white HHKBs are sold out. I'll have to wait for EK to resupply.

The old adage is true: He who hesitates doesn't get a black/lettered HHKB with an accessory set of gray-and-white lettered key caps with two-day shipping.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:10:29 »
Quote from: aref on Sun, 08 February 2015, 18:47:31
Just went to EK to order a black/printed HHKB. The info page shows stock, but when I went to checkout, no stock. Black and white HHKBs are sold out. I'll have to wait for EK to resupply.

The old adage is true: He who hesitates doesn't get a black/lettered HHKB with an accessory set of gray-and-white lettered key caps with two-day shipping.

awww that's brutal. Maybe they are re-stocking HHKB along with the REalforces at the end of the month.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:48:54 »
http://www.smartimports.net/categories/Keyboards/

I finally took the plunge and ordered a white printed HHKB from there and it worked out cheaper than buying from EK (due to shipping to Australia).
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 08 February 2015, 20:10:38 »
Quote from: AlphaOne on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:48:54
http://www.smartimports.net/categories/Keyboards/

I finally took the plunge and ordered a white printed HHKB from there and it worked out cheaper than buying from EK (due to shipping to Australia).

Congratulations! Enjoy the HHKB. I gather Smart Imports ships from Japan; not that far from you, mate. I checked smartimports.net; their prices are comparable to EK's. I've done a lot of business with EK. The company has been honorable, I'll likely stay with the company. But it's good to know that an alternative retailer is within my cursor's reach.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01 »
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:15:20 »
I think I'm going to get a white realforce in 55g after this thread. Hopefully it's not out of stock any time soon.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:24:43 »
I like Topre switches so very much; my 55g has convinced me that key-switch searching, for me, is sending good money after products that I'm only going to sell. I hope and trust this will not be the case with an HHKB; but there's only one way to know for sure. I think my digits will appreciate the feel and feedback of 45g Topres on HHKB's platform.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:33:36 »
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:24:43
I like Topre switches so very much; my 55g has convinced me that key-switch searching, for me, is sending good money after products that I'm only going to sell. I hope and trust this will not be the case with an HHKB; but there's only one way to know for sure. I think my digits will appreciate the feel and feedback of 45g Topres on HHKB's platform.
Hey Aref!  Nice to see you're still around! Hope you've been well  ;D I'm so glad you've finally decided to give the HHKB a try.  In my personal opinion, I think it's the best topre experience one can have.  While I know a lot of people do enjoy the feeling, and audible feedback of the Realforce 87u 55g, the HHKB I think offers the most "fun" and unique typing feel, plus the layout is so well thought out and intuitive. Maybe in the future you could consider swapping the domes from your Realforce into your HHKB to see what you think of 55g case mounted topre switches? Many here on Geekhack have already done this mod and seem to very pleased with the results. 
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:40:23 »
Quote from: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:33:36
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:24:43
I like Topre switches so very much; my 55g has convinced me that key-switch searching, for me, is sending good money after products that I'm only going to sell. I hope and trust this will not be the case with an HHKB; but there's only one way to know for sure. I think my digits will appreciate the feel and feedback of 45g Topres on HHKB's platform.
Hey Aref!  Nice to see you're still around! Hope you've been well  ;D I'm so glad you've finally decided to give the HHKB a try.  In my personal opinion, I think it's the best topre experience one can have.  While I know a lot of people do enjoy the feeling, and audible feedback of the Realforce 87u 55g, the HHKB I think offers the most "fun" and unique typing feel, plus the layout is so well thought and intuitive. Maybe in the future you could consider swapping the domes from your Realforce into your HHKB to see what you think of 55g case mounted topre switches? Many here on Geekhack have already done this mod and seem to very pleased with the results.

Good to hear from you, brother. I'm excited about the HHKB. I don't think I'd destroy my 55g 87UB, I like this keyboard too much to disassemble it. I'm kind of looking forward to trying the 45g switch on a platform other than a Realforce. I'm looking forward to the HHKB. The mod? I can never say never. But I'll need another 55g Topre keyboard to disassemble. I'll have to report on the KB; I hope to have it by the end of next week.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:41:54 »
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).

One of the first things I did was dip switch Delete to Backspace. Essential imo. Hopefully you get yours next week so you can start enjoying it. Cheers!  :thumb:

Funny how you have the RF 55g, which I'm wanting and will be getting shortly when EK re-stocks, and I have the HHKB!
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:47:44 »
Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:41:54
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).

One of the first things I did was dip switch Delete to Backspace. Essential imo. Hopefully you get yours next week so you can start enjoying it. Cheers!  :thumb:

Funny how you have the RF 55g, which I'm wanting and will be getting shortly when EK re-stocks, and I have the HHKB!

We're coming form opposite ownership, but will be arriving at the same destination. Indeed, I'll have to DIP switch Delete to Backspace. Necessary for this guy, too. I hope you enjoy your 55-gram 87U keyboard. I think it's one of the best keyboards; perhaps the HHKB will be the other 'best' KB for me. It may be difficult for me to rank one above the other. Did you mod your HHKB or keep it stock? I think you will find the RF a fantastic keyboard with switch feel and aural feedback that is ever so grand. We're both waiting for EK's incoming stock.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:56:28 »
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:47:44
Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:41:54
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).

One of the first things I did was dip switch Delete to Backspace. Essential imo. Hopefully you get yours next week so you can start enjoying it. Cheers!  :thumb:

Funny how you have the RF 55g, which I'm wanting and will be getting shortly when EK re-stocks, and I have the HHKB!

We're coming form opposite ownership, but will be arriving at the same destination. Indeed, I'll have to DIP switch Delete to Backspace. Necessary for this guy, too. I hope you enjoy your 55-gram 87U keyboard. I think it's one of the best keyboards; perhaps the HHKB will be the other 'best' KB for me. It may be difficult for me to rank one above the other. Did you mod your HHKB or keep it stock? I think you will find the RF a fantastic keyboard with switch feel and aural feedback that is ever so grand. We're both waiting for EK's incoming stock.
The only challenge at first might be typing "\\\\\\\" a lot when you go back to using your 87u!  ;D  You'll quickly learn to efficiently use the two interchangeably though!
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:57:16 »
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:47:44
Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:41:54
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).

One of the first things I did was dip switch Delete to Backspace. Essential imo. Hopefully you get yours next week so you can start enjoying it. Cheers!  :thumb:

Funny how you have the RF 55g, which I'm wanting and will be getting shortly when EK re-stocks, and I have the HHKB!

We're coming form opposite ownership, but will be arriving at the same destination. Indeed, I'll have to DIP switch Delete to Backspace. Necessary for this guy, too. I hope you enjoy your 55-gram 87U keyboard. I think it's one of the best keyboards; perhaps the HHKB will be the other 'best' KB for me. It may be difficult for me to rank one above the other. Did you mod your HHKB or keep it stock? I think you will find the RF a fantastic keyboard with switch feel and aural feedback that is ever so grand. We're both waiting for EK's incoming stock.

Yes. I got a reply from EK saying that the shipment was supposed to be in at the beginning of the month but got delayed. Hopefully they're there by the end of the month.

I had done the dental band mod but removed it about an hour ago. The amount of silence it provided was seriously worth it but the thought of the domes being harmed in the long run made me remove it. I'm planning on using EK's landing pads and lube to silence it later on since I have no choice. Unfortunately, the rebound clack of the slider is a bit too much.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:11:59 »
Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:57:16
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:47:44
Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:41:54
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).

One of the first things I did was dip switch Delete to Backspace. Essential imo. Hopefully you get yours next week so you can start enjoying it. Cheers!  :thumb:

Funny how you have the RF 55g, which I'm wanting and will be getting shortly when EK re-stocks, and I have the HHKB!

We're coming form opposite ownership, but will be arriving at the same destination. Indeed, I'll have to DIP switch Delete to Backspace. Necessary for this guy, too. I hope you enjoy your 55-gram 87U keyboard. I think it's one of the best keyboards; perhaps the HHKB will be the other 'best' KB for me. It may be difficult for me to rank one above the other. Did you mod your HHKB or keep it stock? I think you will find the RF a fantastic keyboard with switch feel and aural feedback that is ever so grand. We're both waiting for EK's incoming stock.

Yes. I got a reply from EK saying that the shipment was supposed to be in at the beginning of the month but got delayed. Hopefully they're there by the end of the month.

I had done the dental band mod but removed it about an hour ago. The amount of silence it provided was seriously worth it but the thought of the domes being harmed in the long run made me remove it. I'm planning on using EK's landing pads and lube to silence it later on since I have no choice. Unfortunately, the rebound clack of the slider is a bit too much.

I may have to reconsider doing some kind of modification. If the landing-pad/lube mod works to your satisfaction, please let me know. I'm sure that I'll use it stock for a while. Please keep me posted, if you would.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:20:16 »
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Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:41:54
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 20:14:01
I have a dark gray HHKB Pro 2 on backorder. The deed is (almost) done! I may get white lettered caps for it; but I'm not sure that I'll need them. I've been working on a manuscript today and realized that I don't use my cursor keys when I'm writing. Backspace is a must, and the HHKB's DIP switch will convert my Delete key to Backspace, so I'm good. I may have the HHKB next week. The two keyboards I'll be using are my 87UB/55-gram and the HHKB Pro 2 (I just like writing the nomenclature).

One of the first things I did was dip switch Delete to Backspace. Essential imo. Hopefully you get yours next week so you can start enjoying it. Cheers!  :thumb:

Funny how you have the RF 55g, which I'm wanting and will be getting shortly when EK re-stocks, and I have the HHKB!

We're coming form opposite ownership, but will be arriving at the same destination. Indeed, I'll have to DIP switch Delete to Backspace. Necessary for this guy, too. I hope you enjoy your 55-gram 87U keyboard. I think it's one of the best keyboards; perhaps the HHKB will be the other 'best' KB for me. It may be difficult for me to rank one above the other. Did you mod your HHKB or keep it stock? I think you will find the RF a fantastic keyboard with switch feel and aural feedback that is ever so grand. We're both waiting for EK's incoming stock.

Yes. I got a reply from EK saying that the shipment was supposed to be in at the beginning of the month but got delayed. Hopefully they're there by the end of the month.

I had done the dental band mod but removed it about an hour ago. The amount of silence it provided was seriously worth it but the thought of the domes being harmed in the long run made me remove it. I'm planning on using EK's landing pads and lube to silence it later on since I have no choice. Unfortunately, the rebound clack of the slider is a bit too much.

I may have to reconsider doing some kind of modification. If the landing-pad/lube mod works to your satisfaction, please let me know. I'm sure that I'll use it stock for a while. Please keep me posted, if you would.
The trick with the landing pads is to iron them flat.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:22:31 »
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:11:59

I may have to reconsider doing some kind of modification. If the landing-pad/lube mod works to your satisfaction, please let me know. I'm sure that I'll use it stock for a while. Please keep me posted, if you would.

Absolutely bro. I was going to wait for the RF55g and order both but I think I'll go ahead and get this out of the way.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:00:56 »
Quote from: derb2k2 on Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:22:31
Quote from: aref on Mon, 09 February 2015, 21:11:59

I may have to reconsider doing some kind of modification. If the landing-pad/lube mod works to your satisfaction, please let me know. I'm sure that I'll use it stock for a while. Please keep me posted, if you would.

Absolutely bro. I was going to wait for the RF55g and order both but I think I'll go ahead and get this out of the way.

I'll be waiting to hear what you think of the modified HHKB. Where did you get your landing pads? I don't see them on EK, they used to have them. You are going to be thrilled with the 55g RF. It really is, in my estimation, an exceptional KB with 55-gram Topres.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:12:11 »

The trick with the landing pads is to iron them flat.
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Ray, I may need to look for a tutorial to make sure I have a clear understanding of the procedure. You know, now that I'm using the 87UB exclusively, tucked away the MX Red KB, it just feels great; and each day it feels more effortless. If the HHKB feels this good, I'll have the end all in KBs for myself. I known each of us has our own most-favored keyboards.
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:52:43 »
Quote from: aref on Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:12:11
I'll have the end all in KBs for myself.
I thought I did as well when I got my HHKB Pro 2 Type-S and my RF87U 55g Type-S with Digilog case.

But I was wrong... I still have so much want!

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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:57:27 »
Quote from: aref on Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:12:11

The trick with the landing pads is to iron them flat.

Ray, I may need to look for a tutorial to make sure I have a clear understanding of the procedure. You know, now that I'm using the 87UB exclusively, tucked away the MX Red KB, it just feels great; and each day it feels more effortless. If the HHKB feels this good, I'll have the end all in KBs for myself. I known each of us has our own most-favored keyboards.
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I sent you a pm
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Re: HHKB 45g vs. Realforce 45g Switches re Feel
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:08:48 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:57:27
Quote from: aref on Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:12:11

The trick with the landing pads is to iron them flat.

Ray, I may need to look for a tutorial to make sure I have a clear understanding of the procedure. You know, now that I'm using the 87UB exclusively, tucked away the MX Red KB, it just feels great; and each day it feels more effortless. If the HHKB feels this good, I'll have the end all in KBs for myself. I known each of us has our own most-favored keyboards.

I sent you a pm

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Thank you for the huge assist, Ray.
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