[Idea] 68 Percent Minimalist Keyboard

[neverused]

I like the location of swill's right shift, as I only use that key for the question mark "?" but I can see how moving it over would cause trouble for others

[JordiOrlando]

The shift key that far out to the right is totally useless as a shift. You might as well just leave it off entirely and put something else in that spot.

Not really.  How often do you use the right shift anyway.

People in general, or me personally? I personally use the right shift almost exclusively, reserving the left shift for the symbols on the right hand number row and keys typed with the right hand pinky and sometimes ring finger (so among letters, that’s usually P, and sometimes L or O).

Your keyboard would be totally unusable for me.

But hey, if you don’t use the right shift, that’s no problem, go ahead and get rid of it. There’s just not much point IMO in making it so far away that you couldn’t use it if you wanted. I think you’d be much better off dropping the right shift entirely and shifting the arrows a slight bit more to the right.

Yeah, I use right shift as well, so I decided to make it the same size as left shift and place it right next to the alphas. That way it's very similar to stock layout. Hopefully it works as well in practice as I think it will in theory.

[swill]

The shift key that far out to the right is totally useless as a shift. You might as well just leave it off entirely and put something else in that spot.

Not really.  How often do you use the right shift anyway.

People in general, or me personally? I personally use the right shift almost exclusively, reserving the left shift for the symbols on the right hand number row and keys typed with the right hand pinky and sometimes ring finger (so among letters, that’s usually P, and sometimes L or O).

Your keyboard would be totally unusable for me.

But hey, if you don’t use the right shift, that’s no problem, go ahead and get rid of it. There’s just not much point IMO in making it so far away that you couldn’t use it if you wanted. I think you’d be much better off dropping the right shift entirely and shifting the arrows a slight bit more to the right.

You make it seem like I have banished that key to the ends of the earth, never to be seen again. Haha. It in the same spot as it always was, its just one unit shorter.

I am not trying to get anyone to use this layout, I just mentioned it in this thread because I thought some people would be interested in my build/layout.  I understand that people who depend heavily on the right shift will find this layout strange. I'm not one of those people, so we will see how I adapt.

[ideus]

The shift key that far out to the right is totally useless as a shift. You might as well just leave it off entirely and put something else in that spot.

Not really.  How often do you use the right shift anyway.

People in general, or me personally? I personally use the right shift almost exclusively, reserving the left shift for the symbols on the right hand number row and keys typed with the right hand pinky and sometimes ring finger (so among letters, that’s usually P, and sometimes L or O).

Your keyboard would be totally unusable for me.

But hey, if you don’t use the right shift, that’s no problem, go ahead and get rid of it. There’s just not much point IMO in making it so far away that you couldn’t use it if you wanted. I think you’d be much better off dropping the right shift entirely and shifting the arrows a slight bit more to the right.

You make it seem like I have banished that key to the ends of the earth, never to be seen again. Haha. It in the same spot as it always was, its just one unit shorter.

I am not trying to get anyone to use this layout, I just mentioned it in this thread because I thought some people would be interested in my build/layout.  I understand that people who depend heavily on the right shift will find this layout strange. I'm not one of those people, so we will see how I adapt.

Why you decided to split the left shift? Changing both shifts at once seems unnecessary.

[swill]

The shift key that far out to the right is totally useless as a shift. You might as well just leave it off entirely and put something else in that spot.

Not really.  How often do you use the right shift anyway.

People in general, or me personally? I personally use the right shift almost exclusively, reserving the left shift for the symbols on the right hand number row and keys typed with the right hand pinky and sometimes ring finger (so among letters, that’s usually P, and sometimes L or O).

Your keyboard would be totally unusable for me.

But hey, if you don’t use the right shift, that’s no problem, go ahead and get rid of it. There’s just not much point IMO in making it so far away that you couldn’t use it if you wanted. I think you’d be much better off dropping the right shift entirely and shifting the arrows a slight bit more to the right.

You make it seem like I have banished that key to the ends of the earth, never to be seen again. Haha. It in the same spot as it always was, its just one unit shorter.

I am not trying to get anyone to use this layout, I just mentioned it in this thread because I thought some people would be interested in my build/layout.  I understand that people who depend heavily on the right shift will find this layout strange. I'm not one of those people, so we will see how I adapt.

Why you decided to split the left shift? Changing both shifts at once seems unnecessary.

I wanted a Fn key on my left hand and that was a good place for it. I didn't have enough keys otherwise.

[ideus]

The shift key that far out to the right is totally useless as a shift. You might as well just leave it off entirely and put something else in that spot.

Not really.  How often do you use the right shift anyway.

People in general, or me personally? I personally use the right shift almost exclusively, reserving the left shift for the symbols on the right hand number row and keys typed with the right hand pinky and sometimes ring finger (so among letters, that’s usually P, and sometimes L or O).

Your keyboard would be totally unusable for me.

But hey, if you don’t use the right shift, that’s no problem, go ahead and get rid of it. There’s just not much point IMO in making it so far away that you couldn’t use it if you wanted. I think you’d be much better off dropping the right shift entirely and shifting the arrows a slight bit more to the right.

You make it seem like I have banished that key to the ends of the earth, never to be seen again. Haha. It in the same spot as it always was, its just one unit shorter.

I am not trying to get anyone to use this layout, I just mentioned it in this thread because I thought some people would be interested in my build/layout.  I understand that people who depend heavily on the right shift will find this layout strange. I'm not one of those people, so we will see how I adapt.

Why you decided to split the left shift? Changing both shifts at once seems unnecessary.

I wanted a Fn key on my left hand and that was a good place for it. I didn't have enough keys otherwise.

As you said, the layout is an experiment just for your needs, so we cannot say much. Please post your findings. However, your layout seems to have advantages over the one the OP proposed. Again, both are personal endeavours where others opinions are just background noise. Good luck to both of you.