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Offline Novus

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Congrats, you've descended into wallethack and you've spent your hard earned money on a new keyboard. Even if you like this new board that you've bought, tell the next person why they shouldn't (was it over-hyped,bad value, ping, rattle etc?) buy it.

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Don't buy an AT101W, unless you plan to replace the switches or use it for the mounting plate.

The 101W's black Alps suck.

(thankfully, mine was free - I'm just spreading the word that no one should pay more than $0.00 on one.)
I have since started going through the switches and removing the tactile plates to see if I can make a nice linear switch.
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Don't buy an SSK.
Model Fs just make these things feel like ****e.
I just feel silly for spending so much on a board that doesn't get used often at all.
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Don't buy an HHKB, sometime the tactility gets annoying.

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Don't buy an SSK.
Model Fs just make these things feel like ****e.
I just feel silly for spending so much on a board that doesn't get used often at all.
Well, if you don't want yours... I'll trade my AT101W and a few dollars for your SSK ;)
I haven't been spoiled by a Model F yet, so it'll be okay for me.
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Don't buy a 360 Corsa.
You have to, like, assemble it all yourself.
It doesn't even come with switches
And it uses some weird cable (it's not USB idk what it is)
Plus shipping from Korea was so expensive :'( :'(

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Don't buy a KB Paradise v60 MTS. If you have to switch to a full size your fingers will be in the wrong place, and it's Matias so there are many fewer keycaps available. It's not PBT so you'll end up swapping it out for something that has PBT caps anyway, because even if you find Matias compatible caps they won't have the correct fn layer legends.

Plus the v80 TKL MTS is on its way and that's probably what you really wanted all along.
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Don't buy a GH60, you'll wait two years or more to get a board that's not even all that great anymore.

Also, don't buy a Kingsaver.  Alps are awesome, but caps for it are practically impossible to find and TKL is inferior to 60%.

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Don't buy that keyboard that nubbinator made...oh, wait. ;)
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Also, don't buy blue ALPS. Just give them all to me.   ;D
Although seriously, be careful how much you pay for a blue ALPS keyboard. After all, you are pretty much paying for just the switches.
Anything over $100 is quite steep and even though I paid much, much more than that for mine, I still recommend being patient as it isn't worlds apart from other clicky switches.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:51:14 »
Don't get a IBM Model M, waiting for the ps2 adapter is infuriating and some of the top key caps(What do you gall the ones over the stem??) can be slightly mis aligned.(At least on mine) It annoys the ***p out of me.   :D
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:51:36 »
don't buy an mx green board because they are just a little heavier than blues.  they are like 3x as heavy.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 17:55:08 »
Don't buy that keyboard that nubbinator made...oh, wait. ;)

I promise I won't ruin your credit, just ding it a little.  And I'll be signing you up for those GBs you were going to do anyways.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 18:17:53 »
Don't buy a B87. it... uh... took a while to get here...
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 18:19:47 »
Don't buy the KBT Race S if you want to use keycap sets.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 18:39:44 »
Because they can't?  After all it's yours.  What a silly question!
« Last Edit: Thu, 19 February 2015, 21:32:02 by Snowdog993 »

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:04:37 »
Don't buy a WASD Code, Costar stabilizers are Satan.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:13:19 »
i haven't bought a keyboard in like 2 years now

wolf why do you always make threads that exclude me :(
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:16:36 »
Don't buy a Ducky Mini, you'll break your floor if you drop it.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:16:39 »
Don't buy a CM QFR because no keyboard under 300 dollars is worth buying. Anything below that price point is ****e.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 20:52:46 »
My first board was a Rapoo KX. It has a metal plate, which you have to keep off to use aftermarket caps. Backlighting is uneven, and has a really weird layout. But it was 50 bucks so.......... :-\

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 21:18:10 »
Don't buy that keyboard because they might run out of stock if you do. Then I won't be able to by another.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 21:26:21 »
don't buy a pure pro

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 21:29:27 »
Don't buy the KBT Race S if you want to use keycap sets.

Any Race for that matter...That's the only downfall of that board. Love mine to death though. Wouldn't be trying to sell it if it wasn't for the TX1800
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 23:37:12 »
Don't buy the KBT Race S if you want to use keycap sets.

Any Race for that matter...That's the only downfall of that board. Love mine to death though. Wouldn't be trying to sell it if it wasn't for the TX1800
Any board that can't be fitted with a winkey + tsangan set really.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 19 February 2015, 23:38:51 »
so basically, just dont buy anything.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 00:29:50 »
so basically, just dont buy anything.

Only way to stop the wallethack.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 00:54:25 »
Don't buy a KMAC 1.2 just to have a KMAC 1.2.. there are better quality Korean customs out there now. And don't buy a ****ing Race because it's not fully programmable or compatible with custom keycaps.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 00:59:46 »
Don't buy a KMAC 1.2 just to have a KMAC 1.2.. there are better quality Korean customs out there now. And don't buy a ****ing Race because it's not fully programmable or compatible with custom keycaps.

I just don't get the whole KR boards thing, seems like it's more about exclusivity than keyboards at this point.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 01:04:10 »
I just collect ones that are blue. Maybe pink. Thats why I don't really want this KMAC I just happen to have it.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 01:06:41 »
Don't buy a KMAC 1.2 just to have a KMAC 1.2.. there are better quality Korean customs out there now. And don't buy a ****ing Race because it's not fully programmable or compatible with custom keycaps.

I just don't get the whole KR boards thing, seems like it's more about exclusivity than keyboards at this point.
They're like.. metal and stuff.

Until there is a good GH custom, I'll continue salivating over them.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 01:07:25 »
Don't buy a KMAC 1.2 just to have a KMAC 1.2.. there are better quality Korean customs out there now. And don't buy a ****ing Race because it's not fully programmable or compatible with custom keycaps.

I just don't get the whole KR boards thing, seems like it's more about exclusivity than keyboards at this point.
They're like.. metal and stuff.

Until there is a good GH custom, I'll continue salivating over them.

Didn't you make your own for this purpose...
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 01:09:51 »
Don't buy Das Keyboard Model S! The space-bar might be crappy which ruins the entire keyboard.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 01:16:15 »
Don't buy a modern Cherry G80 (unless it's for switch harvesting). They're flimsy, bendy, feel bad to type on, have a 2KRO matrix and the keycaps are thin and often lasered off-centre. Also, they're physically massive, yet light.

Can't think of any reason not to buy the two boards I use daily (KBT Pure and GON NerD60 in a Vortex case)... Except, the KBT Pure has the switches mounted the "right" way round, so the LED's are on the "wrong" side for most backlit caps?

Ah yes, don't buy a 60% because Fn keys cannot be positioned in truly useful places on standard layout and it takes about the same effort to move your hand to press the Fn key with your thumb (or hold it down with a pinkie) as it would to move your hand to the arrow and edit clusters... So actually a TKL could still be less effort to use or save the already overworked pinkies from more strain.
Buying more keycaps,
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:31:17 »
Didn't you make your own for this purpose...
That was my first design. Lots of improvements needed to be made to put it on par with the Korean boards. Maybe I'll do another in the future with those improvements made.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:33:49 »
Didn't you make your own for this purpose...
That was my first design. Lots of improvements needed to be made to put it on par with the Korean boards. Maybe I'll do another in the future with those improvements made.
can I get a link to this? Seems interesting.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:36:21 »
Don't buy a topre board unless you are prepared to buy more topre boards.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 11:39:07 »
Don't buy a Poker II...

- Nobody will be impressed or want to even hear about it on the internet
- The poker 3 is coming out soon
- The DIP switch options will only get you frustratingly close to the layout you want
- Stupid phrases all over this thing: "Enjoy your feeling" "The keyboard to cheer you up"
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:05:01 »
don't buy a poker 2 
it's really buggy 
the layout is annoying
it has cherry stabs
it's still one of my favourite keyboards, but this is why you shouldn't buy it
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:12:33 »
don't buy a poker 2 
it's really buggy 
the layout is annoying
it has cherry stabs
it's still one of my favourite keyboards, but this is why you shouldn't buy it
Cherry stabs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>miles ahead of costar

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:26:02 »
don't buy a poker 2 
it's really buggy 
the layout is annoying
it has cherry stabs
it's still one of my favourite keyboards, but this is why you shouldn't buy it
Cherry stabs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>miles ahead of costar

they feel so mushy and gross, i hate them
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:27:24 »
don't buy a poker 2 
it's really buggy 
the layout is annoying
it has cherry stabs
it's still one of my favourite keyboards, but this is why you shouldn't buy it
Cherry stabs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>miles ahead of costar

they feel so mushy and gross, i hate them
I only like them more because they are a lot easier to use.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:00:42 »
Don't buy a topre board unless you are prepared to buy more topre boards.

Don't buy a Topre board unless it's a HHKB.  The FC660C and CM Novatouch suck and Realforces aren't the best feeling unless you can float, which is tough to do on Topre.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 15:27:49 »
Don't buy a Ducky Mini, you'll break your floor if you drop it.

I lol'd. They are so heavy and so well made. I honestly don't know who would win between a Ducky Mini and a Model M.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 17:34:42 »
don't buy a poker 2 
it's really buggy 
the layout is annoying
it has cherry stabs
it's still one of my favourite keyboards, but this is why you shouldn't buy it
Cherry stabs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>miles ahead of costar

I think only the modern ones seem to feel good well at least for me

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:39:41 »
Don't buy a modern Cherry G80 (unless it's for switch harvesting). They're flimsy, bendy, feel bad to type on, have a 2KRO matrix and the keycaps are thin and often lasered off-centre. Also, they're physically massive, yet light.
I got a modern Cherry G80 (MX Black) for almost nothing. Cleaned it, lubed it and replaced the thin PBT caps with thick PBTs. It now feels, at least to me, even better than the QFR (MX Black). Too bad I cannot use boards bigger than TKL anymore.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 19:47:42 »
Last keyboard purchase was the 360c. Dont buy it if you cant assemble it yourself :)) Also I am certain that aluminum plates suck, mine bent all over the place just trying to install switches.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 06:08:44 »
Don't buy a HHKB. There's a non-trivial risk that 55g keys will hurt your fingers (be it Topre in Pro, or Chicony rubber dome in Lite), the USB hub in HHKB 2 is a gimmick, the embedded navigation layer is stupid (goes more or less in the opposite direction than staggering) and it's barely any smaller than a 75% keyboard... overall, an overpriced luxury item that only gives you street cred.

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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 13:05:38 »
Don't buy a Type Heaven because the "thock" is slightly higher pitched, accounting for $150 of lost value vs. the Realforce, and if you mention it you will get a strained, polite smile.

Don't buy a Matias Tactile Pro because it feels like rummaging through a bucket of legos.
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Re: So you bought a new keyboard, tell the next person why they shouldn't buy it
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 14:33:27 »
Don't buy a HHKB. There's a non-trivial risk that 55g keys will hurt your fingers (be it Topre in Pro, or Chicony rubber dome in Lite), the USB hub in HHKB 2 is a gimmick, the embedded navigation layer is stupid (goes more or less in the opposite direction than staggering) and it's barely any smaller than a 75% keyboard... overall, an overpriced luxury item that only gives you street cred.

The HHKB has 45g domes.  I've never heard of someone complaining about the HHKB hurting their fingers since it doesn't have a metal plate.