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Which keyboard would you like to be toured?

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Offline Ludovician

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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour (Rubber band modded) - Underway
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 09:50:12 »
Eh, there are no marks for doing those, so none of us had to do it.

Speaking of activities that are a waste of time, though, the lecturer insists that all of our work is handwritten. I do it all by typing and then laboriously copy it in handwriting, which has no benefit whatsoever over simply handing in typed work, and it takes a couple of hours each week.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour (Rubber band modded) - Underway
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:07:58 »
I have to say I used to type and then write out homework for when I did French in high school. It was just so much easier to edit and change mistakes while I struggled through putting some paragraphs together, if I tried to write it out on paper the first time it would turn out an absolute mess.
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« Reply #102 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:47:02 »
That is one of the reasons I do it that way. Another reason is that I can actually focus on my work while I'm typing because it doesn't require effort after doing it for many hours a day every day for the last 10 years, whereas writing is so slow and takes too much of my concentration for me to really focus on thinking instead of writing.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour (Rubber band modded) - Underway
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:07:47 »
Exactly, typing can be so easily done without too much thought. Writing is so laborious and focus-consuming.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour (Rubber band modded) - Underway
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:15:27 »
I got my HHKB back today! And I also fixed it :D The ribbon cable came a little loose somehow.

Well thank you to everyone that participated.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:34:16 »
Quote from: Jersern on Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:15:27
I got my HHKB back today! And I also fixed it :D The ribbon cable came a little loose somehow.

Well thank you to everyone that participated.

Thank you for the generous loan of your valuable HHKB (not that I participated, having an HHKB already, but).

Akso it is good that there was a simple fix for the problem :)
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:39:58 »
Good to hear that it was an easy fix. I was tempted to ask you if it was alright to open it and check for obvious problems while I had it, but I mainly wanted it to test how much of an impact the reduced travel distance causes.

It was still good to type on, but I have to say it's notably worse than the stock HHKB and Type-S in feeling.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour (Rubber band modded) - Underway
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 01:35:13 »
Quote from: Jersern on Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:15:27
I got my HHKB back today! And I also fixed it :D The ribbon cable came a little loose somehow.

Well thank you to everyone that participated.

That's a relief!

It's a shame, but at least everyone got to experience the feel of the dental band mod (or in my case, the first time with topre).

Thanks again for the tour!
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:15:54 »
Definitely great that it wasn't anything serious. :)
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« Reply #109 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:29:16 »
Quote from: nmur on Tue, 31 March 2015, 01:35:13
That's a relief!

It's a shame, but at least everyone got to experience the feel of the dental band mod (or in my case, the first time with topre).

Thanks again for the tour!

So what were your impressions of Topre?
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:01:52 »
Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 31 March 2015, 02:29:16
Quote from: nmur on Tue, 31 March 2015, 01:35:13
That's a relief!

It's a shame, but at least everyone got to experience the feel of the dental band mod (or in my case, the first time with topre).

Thanks again for the tour!

So what were your impressions of Topre?
I had a strong suspicion that would like it, but wouldn't prefer it over Cherry's, just because of how strong of a preference I have for crisp, tactile switches. My suspicions were true, but I was actually surprised at how pleasant they felt. I liked the softness, and how rigid the caps felt on the switches (I don't like the wobbliness of Cherry's).
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« Reply #111 on: Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:05:56 »
Ah, fair enough.

I don't think I've given Cherry a fair chance yet. My only Cherry board is a Das with browns, and I don't like it at all. I have yet to try any other Cherry types.

The HHKB feels kinda soft and buttery, and I think part of that is because it's not plate-mounted and the whole board is very light. I'm using the 55g Realforce right now, and 55g Topre surprisingly feels very different from 45g. Significantly stiffer. Overall I think I prefer 45g. Been taking my HHKB to uni lately.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #112 on: Sat, 04 April 2015, 04:17:06 »
Quote from: Ludovician on Tue, 31 March 2015, 08:05:56
Ah, fair enough.

I don't think I've given Cherry a fair chance yet. My only Cherry board is a Das with browns, and I don't like it at all. I have yet to try any other Cherry types.

The HHKB feels kinda soft and buttery, and I think part of that is because it's not plate-mounted and the whole board is very light. I'm using the 55g Realforce right now, and 55g Topre surprisingly feels very different from 45g. Significantly stiffer. Overall I think I prefer 45g. Been taking my HHKB to uni lately.

The RealForce is also plate-mounted, which adds a fairly significant amount of weight and stabilisation to the keyboard.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #113 on: Sat, 04 April 2015, 05:21:47 »
Yeah, it definitely does feel a lot more solid.

I want to try to 55g-mod my HHKB at some point, but I don't want to ruin a perfectly good RF87 to do it.
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Re: [AUS] HHKB Tour - Over
« Reply #114 on: Sat, 04 April 2015, 05:41:25 »
Quote from: Ludovician on Sat, 04 April 2015, 05:21:47
Yeah, it definitely does feel a lot more solid.

I want to try to 55g-mod my HHKB at some point, but I don't want to ruin a perfectly good RF87 to do it.

Not much other choice, unfortunately.  55g domes are not generally available apart from in a RealForce keyboard :(
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