Where to buy Springs?

[reaxas]

I'm fairly new to this stuff so I'm still lost on a couple of topics! I was wondering where I could buy springs for switches? I was hoping to mod my clears and my blues, and I was also wondering what the best weighted springs are for those two switches?


Thanks again!

[azhdar]

http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs

There's no "best weight" only your favorite !!
That being said, 62g is the most common for ergo-clears.

[SpAmRaY]

What do you want out of the switches? Do you want them heavier or lighter, etc??

There's no point in swapping switches unless you have a goal in mind.

[reaxas]

http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs

There's no "best weight" only your favorite !!
That being said, 62g is the most common for ergo-clears.

Unfortunately it seems like they're sold out! Is there any other place?

I just want to try something different, so I'm willing to try anything really.


I was thinking heavier or so for my clear, which are modifiers and a bit lighter for the blues? I've read that ~65g for the blues are good too!

[animated]

You can buy springs here, but I don't think they have 65g.

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=47

I just bought some keyboards from the winkeyless team and they were able to include a bag of 65g springs for me.  They told me 65g springs are extremely hard to get, I was able to get the last bag.

[Altis]

You can buy springs here, but I don't think they have 65g.

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=47

I just bought some keyboards from the winkeyless team and they were able to include a bag of 65g springs for me.  They told me 65g springs are extremely hard to get, I was able to get the last bag.

The spring weights there don't seem to be bottom-out force but actuation force, like the Cherry rating?

They show 62g but they seem to describe all their springs relative to Cherry standard; 45g as similar to Red, 60g as similar to MX Black... Making 62g heavier than MX black.

But the 62g used in ergo-clears is only a bit heavier than MX Red springs.

So are they really the ergo-clear springs or are they heavier?

[CPTBadAss]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

[FrostyToast]

I believe Zeal is planning on restocking his springs.
Sprit went MIA for a while so he couldn't keep his springs stocked.
However, sprit is now back on the forum and Zeal will likely be getting more springs.

[Altis]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

Thank you for the link. I still am not clear on whether the springs are 62g as slightly heavier than MX Reds (which are 45g or about 60g using Korean measure), or if they are half again heavier using Cherry measurements.

I'd hate to get a set for ergo-clears that are heavier than MX Black.

[FrostyToast]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

[Altis]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

[Zeal]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

The springs on MK's site are measured by actuation force. Their description saying that their 62g springs is the "ergo" spring is quite misleading, unfortunately.

I'm working on getting my springs back in stock. Hang in there.

[vindaon]

I don't think the measurements on MK.com align to either cherry OR korean standards. Looks like they use their own measurements.

[Altis]

I don't think the measurements on MK.com align to either cherry OR korean standards. Looks like they use their own measurements.

I called MK and they don't seem to be aware of any different kind of measurement standards. I'm almost certain they don't use their own and just go by whatever their source says it is.

Is there even such a thing as 62g in Cherry standards though, as I have never seen them. Only ever seen 62g springs as those that are slightly heavier than Reds.

EDIT:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/custom-cherry-mx-springs
The description on this mass drop is word for word identical and has the same weight options. It looks like this is where they may have acquired them from.

The information in the "discussion" on the buy indicates that the forces are indeed actuation and not bottom-out. Thus, the 62g springs are not ergo-clear springs but more like MX Black.

[hjc1710]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

The springs on MK's site are measured by actuation force. Their description saying that their 62g springs is the "ergo" spring is quite misleading, unfortunately.

I'm working on getting my springs back in stock. Hang in there.

Oooooooooo! Crazy exciting! Any potential timeline on this? Next month? Midsummer? Need to find 62g's for my RS84 somewhere.

[Zeal]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

The springs on MK's site are measured by actuation force. Their description saying that their 62g springs is the "ergo" spring is quite misleading, unfortunately.

I'm working on getting my springs back in stock. Hang in there.

Oooooooooo! Crazy exciting! Any potential timeline on this? Next month? Midsummer? Need to find 62g's for my RS84 somewhere.

Hopefully by next month. Though I have lots of interesting items to share for 2015.

[reaxas]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

The springs on MK's site are measured by actuation force. Their description saying that their 62g springs is the "ergo" spring is quite misleading, unfortunately.

I'm working on getting my springs back in stock. Hang in there.

Oooooooooo! Crazy exciting! Any potential timeline on this? Next month? Midsummer? Need to find 62g's for my RS84 somewhere.

Hopefully by next month. Though I have lots of interesting items to share for 2015.

Can't wait, I'd really like to mod my keyboard! Is there anything I can sign up so I can get an alert when you do have them in stock?

[meow a cat]

GON carries a few different weights of springs.

I have the 62g GON springs, and they feel nice.

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/others/120-switch-springs-by-gon.html

[Zeal]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

The springs on MK's site are measured by actuation force. Their description saying that their 62g springs is the "ergo" spring is quite misleading, unfortunately.

I'm working on getting my springs back in stock. Hang in there.

Oooooooooo! Crazy exciting! Any potential timeline on this? Next month? Midsummer? Need to find 62g's for my RS84 somewhere.

Hopefully by next month. Though I have lots of interesting items to share for 2015.

Can't wait, I'd really like to mod my keyboard! Is there anything I can sign up so I can get an alert when you do have them in stock?

Only thing I have is a newsletter, but I'm not sure if restocking springs is good enough of a reason to send one.

[SpAmRaY]

Koreans weigh their springs slightly differently which would mean that 62g springs are actually very close to reds.
62g is heavier than the springs found in reds. Slightly, but noticeably.
Blacks are in my experience much heavier than linear switches with 62g korean springs.

I believe Koreans measure the weight at full depression rather than how Cherry measures up to the actuation.

That's what I've discovered. What I'm not sure is how to tell which one you're buying.

I've never seen anyone with 62g springs using Cherry measurements, only Korean measurements at 62g. But the MK website doesn't seem to make as much sense... They reference Cherry weights, but express 62g as "ergo". But ergo isn't heavier than MX Black, which they rate around 60g.

The springs on MK's site are measured by actuation force. Their description saying that their 62g springs is the "ergo" spring is quite misleading, unfortunately.

I'm working on getting my springs back in stock. Hang in there.

Oooooooooo! Crazy exciting! Any potential timeline on this? Next month? Midsummer? Need to find 62g's for my RS84 somewhere.

Hopefully by next month. Though I have lots of interesting items to share for 2015.

Can't wait, I'd really like to mod my keyboard! Is there anything I can sign up so I can get an alert when you do have them in stock?

Only thing I have is a newsletter, but I'm not sure if restocking springs is good enough of a reason to send one.

That's not a hype enough attitude.

[KHAANNN]

Good to hear MK springs are harder than what they appear, although I don't think that will be the case, they don't seem to have much info/experience on them, but it's great that they are listening to the community and acting on it

Invested a bit in their ~60g springs, mainly out of curiosity / to test different switches with different springs, I was wondering whether I should get harder springs too, probably not a good idea tho

My favourite switch to date is a clear with a green spring

[Findecanor]

I need starting force, activation force and bottom-out force value for springs if I am going to be able to properly compare them to Cherry MX.

[SpAmRaY]

I need starting force, activation force and bottom-out force value for springs if I am going to be able to properly compare them to Cherry MX.

Do most people who sell springs advertise this information?

[feizor]

I need starting force, activation force and bottom-out force value for springs if I am going to be able to properly compare them to Cherry MX.

Do most people who sell springs advertise this information?

The only one I have seen is originative. But that was originative ... ) )