[GB] GMK Triumph Adler. Pics posted...

[Nai_Calus]

*throws salt at the people with perfect sets*

We need a therapy thread for this, heh.

*sighs*

The bad thing is, even if they offer a replacement, there's no guarantee the same thing won't just happen again. My postal carrier for that matter left it sitting on its end on the steps and didn't even put it against the door, never mind flat.

[VesperSAINT]

Here's some therapy:

Even with scratched keycaps, they look great in a dimly lit room :3

I like how they contrast to the beige case ~

[skycrimes]

*throws salt at the people with perfect sets*

We need a therapy thread for this, heh.

*sighs*

The bad thing is, even if they offer a replacement, there's no guarantee the same thing won't just happen again. My postal carrier for that matter left it sitting on its end on the steps and didn't even put it against the door, never mind flat.

sorry ;;

[64rky]

Here's some therapy:

Even with scratched keycaps, they look great in a dimly lit room :3

I like how they contrast to the beige case ~

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Great pics Vesper,  keep the faith!

[VesperSAINT]

Great pics Vesper,  keep the faith!

Thankies ~ Faith be kept ~

[heedpantsnow]

Massdrop therapy thread

[radio_killah]

Got my set... UPS sucks. The box is pretty much crushed. I had about 10 keys still in the tray. I got out pretty much scratch free. But just looking at the undersides of the keys you can tell that there wasn't any form of QC at all... Some many keys with partial doubleshots and lots of extra plastic hanging off the ends.

The one thing that I noticed now that I have the keys is that the texture actually feels different from the rest of my sets.. It is a bit more slipper on the sides and the plastic feels thinner and more hollow.. Someone with a precise scale should measure the keys... They don't feel as dense as my other GMK sets.

The colors are very nice, the grey on the alphas is subtle but it works nicely. I just really wish this drop wasn't run through Massdrop. I really hope the trend of using Massdrop for GMK buys DOES NOT continue. It will just end in disappointment.

[nubbinator]

Got my set... UPS sucks. The box is pretty much crushed. I had about 10 keys still in the tray. I got out pretty much scratch free. But just looking at the undersides of the keys you can tell that there wasn't any form of QC at all... Some many keys with partial doubleshots and lots of extra plastic hanging off the ends.

The one thing that I noticed now that I have the keys is that the texture actually feels different from the rest of my sets.. It is a bit more slipper on the sides and the plastic feels thinner and more hollow.. Someone with a precise scale should measure the keys... They don't feel as dense as my other GMK sets.

The colors are very nice, the grey on the alphas is subtle but it works nicely. I just really wish this drop wasn't run through Massdrop. I really hope the trend of using Massdrop for GMK buys DOES NOT continue. It will just end in disappointment.

I had more than a few with extraneous flashing too.

I don't agree that they feel thinner and more hollow, but I do completely agree with the emboldened part.  They don't feel up to typical GMK snuff and the teal plastic feels cheaper.

[skycrimes]

so I thought my set was perfect then I saw a reddit post mentioning some backlight bleed. Turns out my F key (I think they same one the guy mentioned) isnt a fully doubleshot key. It has terrible backlight bleed whereas the other caps dont.

[Nai_Calus]

Here's an imgur album with photos and general grousing: http://imgur.com/a/frq1A

Probably the most WTF thing besides whatever thought process made anyone think the packaging was OK is that numpad + key. I don't even know what happened there.

I don't notice as many scratches as some, but the lighting in my room is terrible so I may have just missed them, will have to look in sunlight. Unfortunately the issues are almost all on the top or front of keycaps and render it completely unusable. I guess an ISO TKL board with a WKL bottom row. Unlike my ANSI enter and left shift, the ISO shift and enter are fine.

Given the number of issues which are obviously *GMK*'s fault, I'm not sure I'll go for a replacement if they offer one. Even if my set had arrived in place and scratch-free, that number pad + and the sloppy legends are unacceptable. ><

[jbondeson]

Mine came in last night:







The reason for the crushed box was obvious, the air pocket packaging was so thick it bulged the tops and bottoms of the box. So now you're trying to ship hundreds of non-rectangular boxes and, shocker, ****s in disarray.

Now the weird part, so far I only found one scratch on the front of the Backspace key that looks identical to what others have shown. I'm honestly starting to wonder if some of these happened before MD even got them. I haven't had a chance to do a detailed look (for some reason my wife wasn't keen on me spending part of Friday night with my new keycaps and a magnifying light) but today I'll take a closer look.

So I'll probably see if I can get a new bs key from MD.

[cjhard]

so I thought my set was perfect then I saw a reddit post mentioning some backlight bleed. Turns out my F key (I think they same one the guy mentioned) isnt a fully doubleshot key. It has terrible backlight bleed whereas the other caps dont.

That's likely due to the homing scoop, I noticed GMK Dolch has the same pattern for F&J where a portion of the legend injection is cut out.

[sethk_]

if it isn't too much trouble, could someone please post the measurements of the GMK tray? Thanks!

[64rky]

if it isn't too much trouble, could someone please post the measurements of the GMK tray? Thanks!

Mine is out for delivery today, I'll PM them.

[geniekid]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

[wlhlm]

if it isn't too much trouble, could someone please post the measurements of the GMK tray? Thanks!

44cm x 20cm x 2.5cm

[wlhlm]

Picture of TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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Nice picture, but the mods look incredibly blue, almost like the electric bluegaloo modifiers.

[64rky]

if it isn't too much trouble, could someone please post the measurements of the GMK tray? Thanks!

44cm x 20cm x 2.5cm

17.3 x 8 x 1 inches

[sethk_]

if it isn't too much trouble, could someone please post the measurements of the GMK tray? Thanks!

44cm x 20cm x 2.5cm

17.3 x 8 x 1 inches

Thanks to both of you!

[radio_killah]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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I tried this using my set too. I wasn't a fan. It looks great in your picture though. The TA mods definitely look better with a white/lighter alpha base.

[strict]

For once I seem to have gotten lucky, no noticeable color blending issues and, miraculously,  no scratches either.

[sethk_]

For once I seem to have gotten lucky, no noticeable color blending issues and, miraculously,  no scratches either.

so how does it feel to be the chosen one?

[ebacho]

Did we ever determine if the scratched 1.5x alt keys from shipping or a mold problem?  I ask because one of my alts has the same scratches posted a few patches back (perfect horizontal line on the front of the cap) but the other alt is fine.

FWIW I have no color blending issues and only a couple minor scratches, but the gouge on the alt key is particularly jarring.

[CommonCurt]

Did we ever determine if the scratched 1.5x alt keys from shipping or a mold problem?  I ask because one of my alts has the same scratches posted a few patches back (perfect horizontal line on the front of the cap) but the other alt is fine.

FWIW I have no color blending issues and only a couple minor scratches, but the gouge on the alt key is particularly jarring.

I was thinking the same thing about the 1.5 alt keys.  I have seen a few pictures were the scratch/ding looks almost exactly like the one on mine.

Though one of my sets has the dinged up 1.5 alt key, and the other set doesn't. 

It's the marked up alt cap, and messed up color on the front of both my numpad + caps that bug me the most.

[JustDownloadMoreRAM]

If multiple people have scratched 1.5x Alt keys in the identical place from shipping alone, go buy a lottery ticket right now if you believe in that kind of serendipity.

[drewba]

About 6 keys were left inside the GMK tray when I opened my box. Other than handful of scratches, my set appears to be in pretty good shape. This feels amazing to type on


KUL w/proton white case top. Pardon the potato pics & dirty desk

[njbair]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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I like this a lot.

[shawn24]

Massdrop use a weird shipping company to ship it to Canada, after 7 days from shipped out, it is now given to USPS to ship to Canada and still in Pre-Shipping in USPS.
Funniest and most ridiculous thing I ever seen for shipping

[user 18]

Massdrop use a weird shipping company to ship it to Canada, after 7 days from shipped out, it is now given to USPS to ship to Canada and still in Pre-Shipping in USPS.
Funniest and most ridiculous thing I ever seen for shipping

Mine does say it's made it to Canada already, so yours should hopefully cross the border soon!

[ShardZer0]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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Looks good, I did the same thing with the TA Mods and Midnight set alphas.

[zombimuncha]

Did we ever determine if the scratched 1.5x alt keys from shipping or a mold problem?  I ask because one of my alts has the same scratches posted a few patches back (perfect horizontal line on the front of the cap) but the other alt is fine.

FWIW I have no color blending issues and only a couple minor scratches, but the gouge on the alt key is particularly jarring.

I was thinking the same thing about the 1.5 alt keys.  I have seen a few pictures were the scratch/ding looks almost exactly like the one on mine.

Though one of my sets has the dinged up 1.5 alt key, and the other set doesn't. 

It's the marked up alt cap, and messed up color on the front of both my numpad + caps that bug me the most.

Mine have some scratches but I didn't see anything on the 1.5 alts or the Backspace. I didn't see the photos of those keys tho, so maybe I'm just less picky (or less observant) ? What page are they on?

I'm guessing the only problem that applies to all sets is the missing inner section on the numpad + cap, but I assume that was done to improve stabilizer clearance, and is more of a design choice than a design flaw - it gives greater flexibility in what stabs you can use it with at the expense of a slight visual anomaly.

[Nai_Calus]

I'm guessing the only problem that applies to all sets is the missing inner section on the numpad + cap, but I assume that was done to improve stabilizer clearance, and is more of a design choice than a design flaw - it gives greater flexibility in what stabs you can use it with at the expense of a slight visual anomaly.

If it makes every single numberpad + key have a big ugly light band on it where the white is showing through the teal, that *is* in fact a design flaw.

[nubbinator]

I'm guessing the only problem that applies to all sets is the missing inner section on the numpad + cap, but I assume that was done to improve stabilizer clearance, and is more of a design choice than a design flaw - it gives greater flexibility in what stabs you can use it with at the expense of a slight visual anomaly.

If it makes every single numberpad + key have a big ugly light band on it where the white is showing through the teal, that *is* in fact a design flaw.

It's present on old Cherry sets.  I have it on a WoB set from a G81 board. 

Also, it is not a design flaw since those Cherry keys were not designed with backlighting in mind.  You cannot call it a design flaw if it's a problem caused by using a product outside of its intended use.  If it caused issues on the Lock keys, then it would definitely be a design flaw.

[ccarlitos2]

About 6 keys were left inside the GMK tray when I opened my box. Other than handful of scratches, my set appears to be in pretty good shape. This feels amazing to type on

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KUL w/proton white case top. Pardon the potato pics & dirty desk

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That hoot though. Beautiful.

[rowdy]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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That works surprisingly well

And that green CODE!

[Belfong]

I don't think that keys falling out of trays and rubbing each other could cause such a scratch. If that is the case, it would have scratch badly when Ivan sorted and packed the Dolch. Remember those keys comes in packs? I'd imagine him pouring the Bs in a box, and Cs in another box and then sweeping all of them into a ziplock bag. These keys are bound to run against each other but they weren't scratched. I believe GMK quality has gone downhill and I'm wondering if I should join Classic Beige... Sigh

[Jokrik]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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It's working somehow
what is that keyboard? where's the + and - on the numpad? my brain hurts...

I don't think that keys falling out of trays and rubbing each other could cause such a scratch. If that is the case, it would have scratch badly when Ivan sorted and packed the Dolch. Remember those keys comes in packs? I'd imagine him pouring the Bs in a box, and Cs in another box and then sweeping all of them into a ziplock bag. These keys are bound to run against each other but they weren't scratched. I believe GMK quality has gone downhill and I'm wondering if I should join Classic Beige... Sigh

I've the same question in my head regarding GMK quality and I'm already in for Miami nights

[Belfong]

Even Elrick is missing! I think he probably forsee this day!

[rowdy]

I don't think that keys falling out of trays and rubbing each other could cause such a scratch. If that is the case, it would have scratch badly when Ivan sorted and packed the Dolch. Remember those keys comes in packs? I'd imagine him pouring the Bs in a box, and Cs in another box and then sweeping all of them into a ziplock bag. These keys are bound to run against each other but they weren't scratched. I believe GMK quality has gone downhill and I'm wondering if I should join Classic Beige... Sigh

If that's the case, GMK QA must have hit rock bottom to release keycaps as consistently scratched as these.

[Belfong]

I don't think that keys falling out of trays and rubbing each other could cause such a scratch. If that is the case, it would have scratch badly when Ivan sorted and packed the Dolch. Remember those keys comes in packs? I'd imagine him pouring the Bs in a box, and Cs in another box and then sweeping all of them into a ziplock bag. These keys are bound to run against each other but they weren't scratched. I believe GMK quality has gone downhill and I'm wondering if I should join Classic Beige... Sigh

If that's the case, GMK QA must have hit rock bottom to release keycaps as consistently scratched as these.

Yeah, how can a mere few keys knocking loosely against each other caused such a scratch, right? You would think that pouring bags of caps into boxes and then sorting them and sweeping again into ziplock bags, followed by packing and shipping them would have caused more scratch but Ivan's Dolch turned out fine. My faith for "German-engineered caps" as Elrick is fond of saying, is dwindling by the minute.

[geniekid]

TA mods on Dolch alphas.

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It's working somehow
what is that keyboard? where's the + and - on the numpad? my brain hurts...

Thanks!  It's a Phantom based keyboard (see Metal Dragon link in my signature).  The layout is pretty unique so the legends will probably never be right although I did get pretty close using DSA Granite.  The whole navigation cluster is accessed via a function layer.

[nightdriver]

I don't think that keys falling out of trays and rubbing each other could cause such a scratch. If that is the case, it would have scratch badly when Ivan sorted and packed the Dolch. Remember those keys comes in packs? I'd imagine him pouring the Bs in a box, and Cs in another box and then sweeping all of them into a ziplock bag. These keys are bound to run against each other but they weren't scratched. I believe GMK quality has gone downhill and I'm wondering if I should join Classic Beige... Sigh

I've the same question in my head regarding GMK quality and I'm already in for Miami nights

i strongly suspect it has something to do with the custom colors.  they're not used to doing that and it may have resulted in sub-par plastic.  until we see a set with standard colors that has the same issues, i'm sticking with that hypothesis.

[LechnerDE]

I don't think that keys falling out of trays and rubbing each other could cause such a scratch. If that is the case, it would have scratch badly when Ivan sorted and packed the Dolch. Remember those keys comes in packs? I'd imagine him pouring the Bs in a box, and Cs in another box and then sweeping all of them into a ziplock bag. These keys are bound to run against each other but they weren't scratched. I believe GMK quality has gone downhill and I'm wondering if I should join Classic Beige... Sigh

I've the same question in my head regarding GMK quality and I'm already in for Miami nights

i strongly suspect it has something to do with the custom colors.  they're not used to doing that and it may have resulted in sub-par plastic.  until we see a set with standard colors that has the same issues, i'm sticking with that hypothesis.

I totally agree. It's the custom colors that ****ed everything up.

Cody already confirmed that the GMK Hyperfuse set doesn't have any of those issues, so I guess with regular colors you can expect the famous GMK quality.

[Nai_Calus]

I'm guessing the only problem that applies to all sets is the missing inner section on the numpad + cap, but I assume that was done to improve stabilizer clearance, and is more of a design choice than a design flaw - it gives greater flexibility in what stabs you can use it with at the expense of a slight visual anomaly.

If it makes every single numberpad + key have a big ugly light band on it where the white is showing through the teal, that *is* in fact a design flaw.

It's present on old Cherry sets.  I have it on a WoB set from a G81 board. 

Also, it is not a design flaw since those Cherry keys were not designed with backlighting in mind.  You cannot call it a design flaw if it's a problem caused by using a product outside of its intended use.  If it caused issues on the Lock keys, then it would definitely be a design flaw.

Uh. I'm not talking about backlighting, dude. Did you look at my picture? There's a light band across the front top of the cap that is glaringly obvious in even dim room light. I thought it was a scuff when I first saw it. The white under layer is showing through the top layer and then just made even more obvious by abruptly ending:



So yes, something is flawed there, because I'm pretty sure that looking absolutely terrible in ambient light is not an intended design feature. 

I realize everyone loves GMK, but when something like that is so blatantly obvious on a key, I reserve the right to call BS on something that would screw up the aesthetics of a hundred dollar key set even if mine wasn't scratched to hell and back. Regardless of whether or not the company is a community darling. Shoddy work is shoddy work. Period. I don't care who does it. And given that this is my first GMK set, I have no personal attachment to their products. Squiggly legends and colors showing through caps do not say 'quality' to me, they say 'we phoned this in and then shrugged at it'.

So no, I'm not expecting anything to do something it's not designed for. I'm expecting an expensive key set to not look wonky in normal lighting conditions.

I'm sorry, but I don't feel that this is in any way unreasonable.

[Polymer]

i strongly suspect it has something to do with the custom colors.  they're not used to doing that and it may have resulted in sub-par plastic.  until we see a set with standard colors that has the same issues, i'm sticking with that hypothesis.

That's what it sounds like...That doesn't excuse them for this...to be honest, I'm quite shocked at the quality of the finish on some of these..they're not what they should be like. 

Just means people need to be aware this might be a problem and I'd probably avoid custom colors...That other provider JT or whatever though might be able to go some good stuff and step in...their prices look great too..

I like GMK...but if another competitor comes in with a better price, equal to or better quality, and more flexibility - I'd prefer that..

[ATXTider]

i strongly suspect it has something to do with the custom colors.  they're not used to doing that and it may have resulted in sub-par plastic.  until we see a set with standard colors that has the same issues, i'm sticking with that hypothesis.

Exactly, all the chicken littles need to calm down and use reason for two seconds. 

[zombimuncha]

The swirls and the ugly thin spot on the num+ are most probably related to the use of custom colours.

The scratches I think are caused when the keycaps move slightly inside the case so that one key is sitting half on top of another and pressing down on on it, held in place by the tray, then the box gets another thwack from Mr UPS and the cap gets scratched.  Once they're out of the tray and all over the box there are less new scratches. Did you notice most of the scratches are on the sides?

[jpsteel]

Where is intelli78 in all this?

[Flyersfan1]

Where is intelli78 in all this?

He's posted several times within the last day or two.

[LXXXIX]

Where is intelli78 in all this?