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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:01:15 »
Only those 4 designs will be made?

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« Reply #51 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:01:56 »
Only those 4 designs will be made?

To keep prices down, MOQ will need to be high for each type of design. Simple is better.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:02:19 »
Only those 4 designs will be made?
I dont know yet. Something specific you are thinking about?

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« Reply #54 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 09:04:26 »
Yup. http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/e4e4a9db64cf54b5fba25bf27e2a8ec5
Rather special, ik.
Oh short right shift. I forgot it. Almost korea custom boards fan like it.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 09:56:51 »
Updates from China. Read OP

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:16:23 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:23:09 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 11:24:13 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 11:25:01 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
I will try my best :) thanks !

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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:40:23 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.


I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:48:42 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.


I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.

Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:51:34 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.


I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.

Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?


The plates will fit all Cherry MX switches :) I think ALPs will fit to. With or without notches, all the Cherry MX switches will fit :)

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:10:31 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.


I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.

Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?


The plates will fit all Cherry MX switches :) I think ALPs will fit to. With or without notches, all the Cherry MX switches will fit :)

Great. I like Cherry MX & only use it. In additional I would like use notched plate rather than.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:27:55 »
If you want to keep costs down, why the brushed finish? It's the little things that add up to expensive end results.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:29:06 »
Currently, the company i am talking with does not add extra cost for brushed finish :) It is the same price with or without.

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« Reply #66 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:30:48 »
Currently, the company i am talking with does not add extra cost for brushed finish :) It is the same price with or without.

Ah right, in that case then :)

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:32:03 »
Updates from China. Read OP
How much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).
Talking with other suppliers also.


Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.

Hope I answered your question.

Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.


I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.

Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?


The plates will fit all Cherry MX switches :) I think ALPs will fit to. With or without notches, all the Cherry MX switches will fit :)

Great. I like Cherry MX & only use it. In additional I would like use notched plate rather than.

Now you are a little unclear for me. Do you want notched or not? I think it is easier to make with no notched.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:43:55 »
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

The dumber the reason the more it must be done

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« Reply #69 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:44:38 »
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.
Yep, but the difficulty of cutting.

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« Reply #70 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:48:17 »
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.
Yep, but the difficulty of cutting.

What notches are you using? They don't really complicate plates that much, especially with CNC lasers.
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

The dumber the reason the more it must be done

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« Reply #71 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:57:03 »
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.
Yep, but the difficulty of cutting.

What notches are you using? They don't really complicate plates that much, especially with CNC lasers.


The standard notches shown in the pictures on the "Advanced plates". I got that the advanced plates was much more likely to be errors on and suggestet i prototype it.

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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 14:00:28 »
Is the cutting place you're using really sketch? There should only be issues if the plate is drawn wrong. Also you should add holes to the simple boards because they are completely useless without them.

If you want a cheap plate ditch the notches, keep support for both stab types (unless everyone can agree on one), decide on a layout, and add the mounting holes. This is as cheap as you can make a plate and still have it be useful.
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People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

The dumber the reason the more it must be done

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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 14:26:21 »
Is the cutting place you're using really sketch? There should only be issues if the plate is drawn wrong. Also you should add holes to the simple boards because they are completely useless without them.

If you want a cheap plate ditch the notches, keep support for both stab types (unless everyone can agree on one), decide on a layout, and add the mounting holes. This is as cheap as you can make a plate and still have it be useful.
Thanks for the feedback. I will know more tomorrow. Contacted more suppliers :)

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« Reply #74 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 19:16:31 »
I want notched plates.

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« Reply #76 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 02:13:30 »
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)

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« Reply #77 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 07:30:15 »
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)
You mean the notches? :)

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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 07:49:55 »
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)
You mean the notches? :)


If by notches you mean this one then yeah.

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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:08:32 »
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)
You mean the notches? :)

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If by notches you mean this one then yeah.


Yes, that is what i mean by that :) Talked with the orginal suppliers today. Got a quote. Will start to make some prices soon.
Hopefully, we will also be making the ones with the "notches".


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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:01:58 »
How expensive would be one single design?

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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:04:16 »
How expensive would be one single design?
What do you mean? I got quotes for all the plates and will start making the "end price" for all of you.(have to add shipping to me, taxes, package, and all of that). The prices are not ready yet.

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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:36:04 »
How expensive would be one single design?

probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:45:03 »
How expensive would be one single design?

probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.

I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

The dumber the reason the more it must be done

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:47:41 »
How expensive would be one single design?

probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.

I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.

Yes, because he's buying in bulk. Acanthopis just wants one plate from what i can discern from his post, so it will inevitably be more expensive.

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« Reply #85 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:48:13 »
How expensive would be one single design?

probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.

I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.

Yes, because he's buying in bulk. Acanthopis just wants one plate from what i can discern from his post, so it will inevitably be more expensive.
Yes, that's right.

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« Reply #86 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:48:36 »
How expensive would be one single design?

probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.

I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.
Yes, my goal is definitely cheaper than 50£

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 12:38:26 »
Updated the OP:

04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.

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« Reply #88 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 12:55:20 »
Updated the OP:

04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.

was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.

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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 13:01:16 »
Updated the OP:

04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.

was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
Nah lots of other stuff to...

You can read about it here
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« Reply #90 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 01:56:16 »
Updated the OP:

04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.

was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
Nah lots of other stuff to...

You can read about it here

Ah. That one sounds quite good in terms of simplicity, but I guess if you don't have enough interest...

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« Reply #91 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:41:58 »
Updated the OP:

04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.

was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
Nah lots of other stuff to...

You can read about it here

Ah. That one sounds quite good in terms of simplicity, but I guess if you don't have enough interest...
The biggest problem is price difference. They cost almost the same to make and I don't want to set the advanced ones to a ridicously high price to give you an illusion that the plain ones are cheap. :)

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 10:18:54 »
PRICES ARE READY !

Prices: http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys

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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 04:33:31 »
Probably best to start a GB thread now - in my GB I made the mistake of starting it too late which means that less people saw it.

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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 04:34:57 »
Probably best to start a GB thread now - in my GB I made the mistake of starting it too late which means that less people saw it.
Thanks for the tips. Will just wait for confirmation from China about samples ;-)


Or not. I'll make on today :)
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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 06:14:49 »
Probably best to start a GB thread now - in my GB I made the mistake of starting it too late which means that less people saw it.
Thanks for the tips. Will just wait for confirmation from China about samples ;-)


Or not. I'll make on today :)

Just go for it. If you hit any problems, be honest and let people know, they will be understanding.

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« Reply #96 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:43:03 »
How to order? Via your shop?

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« Reply #97 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:56:33 »
How to order? Via your shop?
Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:54:13 »
How to order? Via your shop?
Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.

Sound great. I 'll waiting ...

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Re: [IC] Simple brushed steel mountplates
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 16 April 2015, 13:09:09 »
How to order? Via your shop?
Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.

Sound great. I 'll waiting ...


Do you know of a place i can get some Cherry stabilizers? I don`t have them. I just need one for the space bar and on of the shorter ones, just to test. I only use Costar myself.


AND, do you have any feedback on the prices?
« Last Edit: Thu, 16 April 2015, 13:29:06 by LeandreN »