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Hello guys, I am going to let go of my spot for the Orion V2.This is one of the very few orders with the ALPS combo so I hope that it will get picked up shortly.FrostyToastSilver WinkeylessAcrylic Angled BottomPlastic PlateALPS Plate and PCB$433.61
Quote from: FrostyToast on Sun, 25 October 2015, 09:51:46Hello guys, I am going to let go of my spot for the Orion V2.This is one of the very few orders with the ALPS combo so I hope that it will get picked up shortly.FrostyToastSilver WinkeylessAcrylic Angled BottomPlastic PlateALPS Plate and PCB$433.61No...We're so close!
Dangit, I would be all over your order but I was hoping for a MX set
Quote from: slushi on Sun, 25 October 2015, 13:02:00Dangit, I would be all over your order but I was hoping for a MX set His order comes with a plastic plate and mx pcb. If you decide to pick it up I'd be happy to take the alps combo off of you. That goes to anyone who would want to pick up frosty's order. Lmk!
anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940
Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!
Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?
Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:22:58Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?Outer diameter and inner diameter. The pin holes on the PCB are the same size, but the Cherry pins themselves are NOT. The OD is what matters when it comes to slotting the sockets into the PCB; the ID is what matters when you want to insert the switch into the sockets.Now that I think about it I suppose you don't actually NEED the OD to be the same if you plan on soldering all the sockets in. I'm not sure how secure it would be, though. In the smart68 GB thread, feng mentioned the developer of the board worked on it for like two years, so I don't think it's a simple process.
Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:22:58Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430702-custom-keyboard-hot-swapable-switch-build/This is an excellent read if you're looking into hotswapping.
Quote from: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:35:13Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:22:58Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430702-custom-keyboard-hot-swapable-switch-build/This is an excellent read if you're looking into hotswapping.okay nice yeah it seems like he used a different receptacle to fix the issue he had of the different cherry pin sizes that ika was talking about. And he uses ones that don't require solder. I think his main issue was his PCB had different layout so his switch mounting points weren't completely circular and a bit ovalish. I guess I just need to wait to see more info on the octagon pcb.
Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:44:42Quote from: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:35:13Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:22:58Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430702-custom-keyboard-hot-swapable-switch-build/This is an excellent read if you're looking into hotswapping.okay nice yeah it seems like he used a different receptacle to fix the issue he had of the different cherry pin sizes that ika was talking about. And he uses ones that don't require solder. I think his main issue was his PCB had different layout so his switch mounting points weren't completely circular and a bit ovalish. I guess I just need to wait to see more info on the octagon pcb.Are you planning on doing this for the Octagon or for the Orion v2? If you check out some of the pics, the holes on his winkeyless.kr PCB are round, not oval, so these receptacles should fit no problem. The problems he mentions were because of the switch pin holes running into the cutouts for the stem well on the bottom of the switch. Since they are solderless, they had to be secured more sturdily. These can also be soldered too though, but they should hold solidly and be flush fitting if the size of the whole is correct. The measurements I got when checking the ID of the switch pin holes in a Duck Lightpad PCB were around 1.55mm. The measurements I got in Cherry pins were .80mm for the smaller stout pin and 1mm for the wider, leafy pin.
Quote from: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 01:38:51Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:44:42Quote from: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:35:13Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:22:58Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430702-custom-keyboard-hot-swapable-switch-build/This is an excellent read if you're looking into hotswapping.okay nice yeah it seems like he used a different receptacle to fix the issue he had of the different cherry pin sizes that ika was talking about. And he uses ones that don't require solder. I think his main issue was his PCB had different layout so his switch mounting points weren't completely circular and a bit ovalish. I guess I just need to wait to see more info on the octagon pcb.Are you planning on doing this for the Octagon or for the Orion v2? If you check out some of the pics, the holes on his winkeyless.kr PCB are round, not oval, so these receptacles should fit no problem. The problems he mentions were because of the switch pin holes running into the cutouts for the stem well on the bottom of the switch. Since they are solderless, they had to be secured more sturdily. These can also be soldered too though, but they should hold solidly and be flush fitting if the size of the whole is correct. The measurements I got when checking the ID of the switch pin holes in a Duck Lightpad PCB were around 1.55mm. The measurements I got in Cherry pins were .80mm for the smaller stout pin and 1mm for the wider, leafy pin.do you also know what he means when he says he centre punched and hammered the inserts into the pcb? Does he mean he literally just banged them into the pcb?
Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:11:56Quote from: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 01:38:51Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:44:42Quote from: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:35:13Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:22:58Quote from: ika on Mon, 26 October 2015, 00:17:32Quote from: ccc24 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 23:15:49anyone know/think these pin receptacles could fit in the duck PCB? The datasheet says the diameter is .058mm..so could anyone tell me the diameter of the the switch mounting hole? edit:sorry forgot to include the link https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/0305-2-15-15-47-27-10-0/ED90333-ND/1801940Are you intending to use these as hot-swap receptacles? Keep in mind that you'll have to use two different kinds of sockets, since Cherry switch pins are different widths. You'll need the same OD and different IDs. That said, I hope someone has an answer for you, because it sounds interesting!Yeah I am, I was actually hoping to test them out on zealios first. But what do you mean by OD and ID?https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/430702-custom-keyboard-hot-swapable-switch-build/This is an excellent read if you're looking into hotswapping.okay nice yeah it seems like he used a different receptacle to fix the issue he had of the different cherry pin sizes that ika was talking about. And he uses ones that don't require solder. I think his main issue was his PCB had different layout so his switch mounting points weren't completely circular and a bit ovalish. I guess I just need to wait to see more info on the octagon pcb.Are you planning on doing this for the Octagon or for the Orion v2? If you check out some of the pics, the holes on his winkeyless.kr PCB are round, not oval, so these receptacles should fit no problem. The problems he mentions were because of the switch pin holes running into the cutouts for the stem well on the bottom of the switch. Since they are solderless, they had to be secured more sturdily. These can also be soldered too though, but they should hold solidly and be flush fitting if the size of the whole is correct. The measurements I got when checking the ID of the switch pin holes in a Duck Lightpad PCB were around 1.55mm. The measurements I got in Cherry pins were .80mm for the smaller stout pin and 1mm for the wider, leafy pin.do you also know what he means when he says he centre punched and hammered the inserts into the pcb? Does he mean he literally just banged them into the pcb?Yeah, I talked to him a ton through the messaging system on that forum to get my plans for an Alps-build with hotswapping figured out.Yeah, he did actually hammer the pins in, but he did say in the end, that simply heating the sockets with a soldering iron and pushing them in made the process a lot easier. So that's what I'd go for if you plan on doing this. Taking a hammer and a punch sounds insanely dangerous for both your fingers, the sockets, and the PCB.
haha ok I see. So the receptacle data sheet says the mounting hole diameter is 1.47mm and you said the duck pcb is around 1.55mm. You think that'll be fine? Or does it have to be completely flush with the trace for it to work?
Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 20:39:58haha ok I see. So the receptacle data sheet says the mounting hole diameter is 1.47mm and you said the duck pcb is around 1.55mm. You think that'll be fine? Or does it have to be completely flush with the trace for it to work?I can't say with the utmost certainty as, for my case, I'll have to be drilling out the holes a slight amount because the only receptacles that would work with Alps are too wide to just slip in. I can't imagine the through holes being so off between the WKL.kr PCB and the Duck that it won't work. The next size up on those is a 1.60mm diameter. I'd say going a little less might be a better idea. If you are worried, then try ordering a small amount of both sizes to see which works best for ya! Maybe we should take this to PM too by the way, unless the guys here don't mind our conversation here.
The first 30 will be shipped soon. The rest will follow after a few weeks. Regarding alps for the new 75% I am not sure they will go along with it unless there are significant interest in it. If there are they can get leeku to make them as an add on.
Quote from: elton5354 on Sat, 03 October 2015, 19:41:49The first 30 will be shipped soon. The rest will follow after a few weeks. Regarding alps for the new 75% I am not sure they will go along with it unless there are significant interest in it. If there are they can get leeku to make them as an add on.Sweet. If I can get in on this then this'll be my first Duck. Hopefully it'll have Alps. Will this thread be the best way to get updated on that? Don't mean to hijack the Orion line just for the Octagon.Also, how many Orion boards were successfully ordered after the first 30? Just want to know the chances of getting on the Octagon.
I've received an update regarding the first 30 orders are packed and are waiting to be picked up. Hopefully we get it by next week! I will update the order changes tonight.On behalf of truecustom, I apologize to everyone about the long delays.
Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 28 October 2015, 13:46:51I've received an update regarding the first 30 orders are packed and are waiting to be picked up. Hopefully we get it by next week! I will update the order changes tonight.On behalf of truecustom, I apologize to everyone about the long delays.Elton I have sent an inquiry via pm. I don't know if you got it.I am in the latter half of the orders so I hope that they can be addressed.
Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 28 October 2015, 13:46:51I've received an update regarding the first 30 orders are packed and are waiting to be picked up. Hopefully we get it by next week! I will update the order changes tonight.On behalf of truecustom, I apologize to everyone about the long delays.Yesssssss! So just to make sure, do we need anything other than switches, leds, and stabilizers?
Quote from: Pemdas on Wed, 28 October 2015, 16:38:17Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 28 October 2015, 13:46:51I've received an update regarding the first 30 orders are packed and are waiting to be picked up. Hopefully we get it by next week! I will update the order changes tonight.On behalf of truecustom, I apologize to everyone about the long delays.Yesssssss! So just to make sure, do we need anything other than switches, leds, and stabilizers? Correct. The PCB parts are presoldered, so the kits will be ready to go with just switches and stabs. And LEDs if you're into that sort of thing.
Quote from: monotagary on Wed, 28 October 2015, 18:08:34Quote from: Pemdas on Wed, 28 October 2015, 16:38:17Quote from: elton5354 on Wed, 28 October 2015, 13:46:51I've received an update regarding the first 30 orders are packed and are waiting to be picked up. Hopefully we get it by next week! I will update the order changes tonight.On behalf of truecustom, I apologize to everyone about the long delays.Yesssssss! So just to make sure, do we need anything other than switches, leds, and stabilizers? Correct. The PCB parts are presoldered, so the kits will be ready to go with just switches and stabs. And LEDs if you're into that sort of thing. The whole keyboard is a light show. Pretty sure everyone bought it to make a light show
Yesssssss! So just to make sure, do we need anything other than switches, leds, and stabilizers?
ugh im not first 30 gg im probably going to randomly have a stroke tomrrow