Best gaming keyboard unlimited budget, help!

[Gaming]

  :)So I am looking for the best gaming keyboard. This will be my first real keyboard, and I am coming from a Microsoft keyboard you get with the computer. Not: I live in the middle of nowhere. I drove 2 hours to Chicago to look in stores to test different switches but found nothing. Currently I feel that topre, red, or brown switches would be nice for gaming but I need your opinion. Please note that I do not want the keyboard that gives me the best bang for my buck. I want the keyboard that gives me the most bang for any amount of bucks . So just reccomend the bets keyboards here and please tell me which which switches to get if the keyboard model has different switches. I currently play chivalry (first person slasher) Cs go, tf2, data 2, lotro (mmo) and aoe 2 (rTs) thanks! Currently I really can't decide to counting on you guys!

[EscapeVelocity]

I would look at the Razer Blackwidow Chroma (or Tournament Chroma which is a tenkeyless version) with Orange Switches

or wait for the Roccat Ryos MK Pro RGB coming out this Fall, you can research the Roccat Ryos MK Pro current version. 

[FrostyToast]

I would look at the Razer Blackwidow Chroma (or Tournament Chroma which is a tenkeyless version) with Orange Switches

or wait for the Roccat Ryos MK Pro RGB coming out this Fall, you can research the Roccat Ryos MK Pro current version.

Obvious troll is troll.

[EscapeVelocity]

Some people really like the Razer Deathstalker Ultimate (or Steelseries Apex) with chiclet style keys. But I say go with a Logitech G13 or Razer Orbweaver before that....and get you a better typing keyboard.

There is also the Steelseries Apex M800 that's worth consideration, if you are looking to stick with a keyboard only solution and value mechanical switches.

[Gaming]

Guys, please, come on. Help me! Why am going to buy a razor keyboard on an unlimited budget. Tell me something like a ducky 3, topre, or a k95rgb. Please guys I'm counting on you.

[Bucake]

buy the most expensive board because the more it costs the better it is for gaming

[Lurch]

model f

[SpAmRaY]

How has nobody mentioned the Romer G?

[JaccoW]

Well the thing is that the *best* board might be a custom one. But then your choices get a lot more difficult. What layout, angle, or caps do you want on them?

Those can go from anywhere between $350 to $1000+ depending on your preferences.

Since you haven't put forth what you like except for a general switch type (and even then the range is pretty wide) I think most people on here would be uncomfortable telling you where to spend that much money.
It's a very personal choice.

Also, how much patience do you have?

[davkol]

ErgoDox, obviously.

[jdcarpe]

What you want is a custom tenkeyless (TKL) keyboard, which is fully programmable, with an aluminum housing. LED backlighting would be nice to have. You also want customized switches, with your favorite stem, a custom weighted spring, and lubed with Krytox or RO-59.

Examples of this would be a KMAC, LZ-S, LZ-GH, LZ-FE, 356 DGE, 360 Corsa, etc.

[Gaming]

I can't afford a 1000 dollar keyboard but I can afford 300 dollars or a bit more. I just want the regular key layout, 104 keys, preferably with the 10 key for extra coolness , and maybe some macro keys. I I would prefer a keyboard that faces me at about a 5-10 degree angle, and I am find with pretty much any caps as long as they feel solid. I have an almost unlimited budget but can't go splurging 1k on one.

[Gaming]

Also, I would prefer to have a big keyboard. Not a 40% or something. I just think it looks better. Also I would like something that doesn't look like the standard ibm work keyboard. I would like it to look good, just a bit.

[nuzey]

I play almost the same games as you. I am playing csgo (fps) and ff14 (mmo) right now.

The keyboards I am using right now is Ducky Shine 3 TKL Cherry MX Red and Filco MJ2 TKL Cherry MX Brown with thick PBT keycaps.

Now, I find myself type better on the Filco than the Ducky because I feel the browns are made to type. While gaming, I usually almost always use my Ducky because the linear motion really suits the key spams you are going to do. Once in a while I do a swap to my Filco for gaming just because I feel like it. The browns can be used for gaming too in my opinion, just that the reds are better since it is more responsive.

All this is my opinion and I hope it will help you out.

I think a topre board will also do very well for gaming since it is close to your "microsoft" rubberdome keyboard. Transitioning to a cherry mx board from a membrane will take a few days, at least for me. I am actually interested in trying out the Realforce since everyone in this forum recommends it. TKL version of course

[phoenix1234]

I can't afford a 1000 dollar keyboard but I can afford 300 dollars or a bit more. I just want the regular key layout, 104 keys, preferably with the 10 key for extra coolness , and maybe some macro keys. I I would prefer a keyboard that faces me at about a 5-10 degree angle, and I am find with pretty much any caps as long as they feel solid. I have an almost unlimited budget but can't go splurging 1k on one.

So please don't use the word "unlimited", you would go bankrupt within a month on GeekHack  )
My recommendation would be something like one of these :
- Ducky Shine 5
- Filco MJ2
- Leopold 750R
- KUL
Plus, you must find a decent keycap set. You need to try out whether ABS or PBT plastic is suitable for you. Definitely, you can find it on the classified or GB area.

[Gaming]

I just really want topre but is it gonna work for gaming?
Also, I am willing to pay 500 for a custom keyboard so tell me about some of those please.

[davkol]

Have you tried Google?

[Gaming]

XD, I heard some people say it was good and some people topre was bad, but I am mixed.

- Ducky Shine 5
- Filco MJ2
- Leopold 750R
- KUL
KMAC
 LZ-S
 LZ-GH
 LZ-FE
 356 DGE
 360 Corsa

So this is my current list to look into. any additions? How expensive is it to make a custom keyboard? I don't want the best, just something I can be proud of.

[Air tree]

Korean customs aren't going to be any better for gaming than a Leopold 750r, but if you insist.

But topre wise a realforce 55g might be your best choice, MX wise, the hubble mira on the interest check sub forum is looking very interesting. And most other customs you'll find on the classifieds, you just have to keep an eye out and once you have enough posts, you can make a thread.


And topre is my favourite switch thus far, I'm wanting to get a hubble mira once it comes to market, and put some ergo clears into it.

[SpAmRaY]

This is how it starts. You don't know what you want so you buy a cheaper board to try whether it is clicky, tactile or whatever then you decide you don't like it so you buy another one etc, etc until you find what you like. Of course you'll have to stick around and participate so you build up your post count so you can then sell all the boards you don't like. OR just pile them up and be a hoarder like some of us.

There have been dozens of threads about gaming with topre https://www.google.com/#q=site:geekhack.org+gaming+with+topre

And you are just trolling yourself honestly it doesn't matter what keyboard you get for 'gaming' it has more to do with the user than the keyboard. Unless you need something like extra macro keys on one side or the other or if specific key backlighting would help you with the games you play.

The thing is not only are you going to want to buy a keyboard but then there are tons of aftermarket keycap sets to go with it. Then custom usb cables and don't even get started on artisan keycaps.

[nuzey]

XD, I heard some people say it was good and some people topre was bad, but I am mixed.

- Ducky Shine 5
- Filco MJ2
- Leopold 750R
- KUL
KMAC
 LZ-S
 LZ-GH
 LZ-FE
 356 DGE
 360 Corsa

So this is my current list to look into. any additions? How expensive is it to make a custom keyboard? I don't want the best, just something I can be proud of.

I will say pick the Ducky Shine 5 since I think you are the type that will like the shiny colorful LED on your board instead of the plain-looking old boring Filco. And pick red switch, trust me

[Gaming]

thanks guys, so also, ducky shine 5 versus ducky legend? Wouldnt ducky legend me better? ALso, Can you just tell me the best MX keyboards you prefer for gaming. I would also prefer they not be custom, or thye be custom, but being sold somewhere at this time. Thanks!

[FoxWolf1]

Your budget is way beyond anything I usually think about, but...GON maybe?

[Air tree]

Also, I would take some time and research everything before being so eager to throw $350+ at your monitor in a flash. We can't really know your tastes and what switch type you'd like. Korean Customs, Topre, stock boards (Filcos, etc...) there's a lot to think about and you should probably look at what switches you might like...

[Gaming]

 Ok, remember this guys but are there any backlit topres, at all? As posted above I want brown, red, or topre switches, and this is my first gaming keyboard. Please read the top post for more info. Also just please post your favorite Mechanical keyboards for gaming. Yours!

[JaccoW]

Take a look at this list I have here: Keyboards - Pearltrees.

- I'm kind of partial to Déck with their doubleshot PBT backlit caps. Some people hate the font though.
- WASD keyboards have standard boards with some customization. They are one of the better quality ones.
- And if all else fails, MechanicalKeyboards.com has a decent collection of fullsize models.

As for custom boards:
- GON has the GON NS NerD 108, starting at $485. But keep in mind he has a big backlog and it will take a few months for it to arrive.
- Datamancer.com has the Diviner @ $500
- LZ, Duck0113 and various other Korean builders have limited edition boards but those will be both hard and expensive to come by unless you are in the original GroupBuy.

[jdcarpe]

If you just want a rock solid full size keyboard, get a Filco Majestouch-2 with reds and be done with it. Endgame keyboard.

P/N: FKBN104MRL/EB2

[JaccoW]

 Ok, remember this guys but are there any backlit topres, at all? As posted above I want brown, red, or topre switches, and this is my first gaming keyboard. Please read the top post for more info. Also just please post your favorite Mechanical keyboards for gaming. Yours!

A custom can get very expensive fast:

I'll do some calculations on my current board.

Item	Cost
Orion set	€354
SkiData keyboard for parts	€91
Transparent keytops	€31
Stabilizers & Stickers	€26
USB cable	€27
Various small parts & shippings	€75
Total	€604

(all prices in �)

Now, I did add some more small things and splurged a bit here and there so the end result is a +$1,000 board. Starting from a base of $400

[SpAmRaY]

Your budget is way beyond anything I usually think about, but...GON maybe?

Ok, remember this guys but are there any backlit topres, at all? As posted above I want brown, red, or topre switches, and this is my first gaming keyboard. Please read the top post for more info.

Backlit topre is coming soon they were shown recently at computex.

If you want to compromise get one or both of dante's royal kludge tkl boards (rgb backlit topre clone) he just put in classifieds, $85 each or both for $160 shipped conus.

[phoenix1234]

If you just want a rock solid full size keyboard, get a Filco Majestouch-2 with reds and be done with it. Endgame keyboard.

P/N: FKBN104MRL/EB2

+1
Plus a decent keycap set

[azhdar]

you want a gaming board yet not a TKL?
smh

[Gaming]

Ok. I want

[Gaming]

A backlit keyboard. Any good ones?

[azhdar]

No good backlit keyboard beside ducky and customs.

Coolermaster are ok'ish with backlit

[Oobly]

So... you don't know what switches you like yet and you want to jump straight to the endgame of "gaming mechanical keyboards"?

I don't thank that's an impossible scenario, but it's highly unlikely. I'd suggest getting a board for around $100 to $120 with most of the features you want and MX Browns. Then you'll get a good feel for what type of switch you'd prefer.

In terms of feel:
Less tactility / more linear (if the bump irritates you) = Reds / Blacks.
More tactility = Clears / ErgoClears / Tactile Greys (they also have an earlier start to the tactile bump).
More "click" = Blues / Greens.

In terms of spring weights:
Same weight = Reds / Blues.
Just a touch heavier = Korean 62g springs -> ErgoClears.
Heavier = Blacks.
Much heavier = Greens / Tactile Greys / Linear Greys.

So I'd suggest a Ducky Shine 3 or 4 with Browns or the WASD Code with Clears. They all come in full size. Then take some time with it to figure out if the switches suit you or not and what you'd prefer in terms of both switch type and spring weights. It took me a while to figure out my favourite mechanical switch for gaming and typing (they've ended up being the same for me, but for some people they're different from each other). Also if there's some other characteristic of the switch you'd like to be different, that can be achieved through mods (such as adding orings, trampoline mod, switch stickers, latex mod, lubing, etc).

Another factor that I found made a big difference is going to TKL (or smaller, but TKL is the best "space gained" / "functions lost" ratio). It makes a big difference to be able to move the mouse and movement hands closer together and positioned more symmetrically. Also allows the centre of your typing position to be closer to the centre of your display, so you're not twisted more towards the left when typing. Good ergonomics. So, unless you really NEED a numpad, I'd suggest trying a TKL.

[Halverson]

Long sorry short for switches: you'll never know what you like best until you try them all.
I thought browns were my best for gaming when I first researched years ago. Hate those switches!

[jerue]

Some people really like the Razer Deathstalker Ultimate (or Steelseries Apex) with chiclet style keys. But I say go with a Logitech G13 or Razer Orbweaver before that....and get you a better typing keyboard.

Guessing you've never dealt with Synapse before...

How has nobody mentioned the Romer G?

Wondering this too. For gaming, it's quite nice. I just type a *lot* more often than I game so I'd never drop the cash on the G910.

[Snowdog993]

Some people really like the Razer Deathstalker Ultimate (or Steelseries Apex) with chiclet style keys. But I say go with a Logitech G13 or Razer Orbweaver before that....and get you a better typing keyboard.

Guessing you've never dealt with Synapse before...

How has nobody mentioned the Romer G?

Wondering this too. For gaming, it's quite nice. I just type a *lot* more often than I game so I'd never drop the cash on the G910.

For strictly gaming, the G910 is a great choice.  It is definitely NOT a keyboard for other purposes however.  It is strictly made for that purpose.  Run the G910 with maybe a G303 (or similar) setup.  That would work.
It's really designed to be used in conjunction with your smartphone or tablet for games that utilize those features as well.  The macros are simple to program, and you have a lot of flexibility with the lighting.
All told, it may be an awesome keyboard for a gaming setup, but using it for a regular keyboard?  No.

[Gaming]

Ok, guys, Maybe I should have said this but because of my current situation I HAVE ONE SHOT AT FINDING THE RIGHT KEYBOARD. I can not buy multiple ones, even if they are cheap. I have one shot at finding the best AND FIRST gaming keyboard for me so I can't just buy a $120 one. I need the bets ones you can come up with. Do you guys feel backlighting is necessary also? It just feels like extra price to me. So just give me one good, keyboard of your choice. Switches I want are topre/red/brown. I am find with a tkl but nothing too small.

[Snowdog993]

Ok, guys, Maybe I should have said this but because of my current situation I HAVE ONE SHOT AT FINDING THE RIGHT KEYBOARD. I can not buy multiple ones, even if they are cheap. I have one shot at finding the best AND FIRST gaming keyboard for me so I can't just buy a $120 one. I need the bets ones you can come up with. Do you guys feel backlighting is necessary also? It just feels like extra price to me. So just give me one good, keyboard of your choice. Switches I want are topre/red/brown. I am find with a tkl but nothing too small.

G910 with G303 and a G440.  All Logitech.  Done.  Enough trolling dude.  You want a GAMING keyboard?  You got it.

[Gaming]

logitech... didnt I say red, brown or topre?
Ok, guys, Maybe I should have said this but because of my current situation I HAVE ONE SHOT AT FINDING THE RIGHT KEYBOARD. I can not buy multiple ones, even if they are cheap. I have one shot at finding the best AND FIRST gaming keyboard for me so I can't just buy a $120 one. I need the bets ones you can come up with. Do you guys feel backlighting is necessary also? It just feels like extra price to me. So just give me one good, keyboard of your choice. Switches I want are topre/red/brown. I am find with a tkl but nothing too small.

[jdcarpe]

TKL with reds then. Ducky Shine (not Zero) if you need backlighting. KUL ES-87 or Filco Majestouch-2 if not.

[Blaise170]

Why "only one" You are severely limiting yourself there. You want an endgame? Here you go.

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/custom-kbds-w-assembly/77-gon-ns-nerd-108-w-tuningassembly.html

[Air tree]

Backlighting is not necessary at all, you have to inject some of your own thoughts into the matter.

55g Realforce 87u is a very good choice it seems.

The Korean custom is a good choice, it just matters for the most part what custom you think is most pleasing to the eye and the layout you most want.

The thing that can go wrong with the korean custom is you might find out you don't like whatever switch you chose.

It's very hard to recommend something like this.

I can't imagine why this is only a one shot scenario, but that's your thing I guess.

[Snowdog993]

logitech... didnt I say red, brown or topre?

Whatever.  The Logitech has Romer-G switches which have a longer lifespan than an MX and are very responsive.  You wanted a mechanical keyboard and can't decide on MX or Topre, and INSIST on that?
Troll.

[Gaming]

so would a filco be better than a leopold or realforce? Also, would a leopold be worse than a realforce? Thanks for the help guys, I'm in the final stpe of my complicated decision making process.

[Gaming]

AKA what would be a good topre keyboard for around $250? I can go a bit over, but not that much. Would an hhkb be good? or a realforce? Also is there any chance that the filco kb is better than this? Because after reading amzon review that blatantly said filco was worse than the u87 55g realforce I was swayed.

[Air tree]

You have to make up your mind on some things. You said you wanted a full size at first, now you might want an HHKB?


https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards just browse.
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2


Topre is vastly different than anything inside a filco, just make up your mind on some things, do you want topre or mx for starters, they aren't just like each other.

an leopold Fc750r is better than the filco. just FYI.

The HHKB is an 60%

All these boards are pretty high quality.

[nuzey]

AKA what would be a good topre keyboard for around $250? I can go a bit over, but not that much. Would an hhkb be good? or a realforce? Also is there any chance that the filco kb is better than this? Because after reading amzon review that blatantly said filco was worse than the u87 55g realforce I was swayed.

Dude, from the beginning I already said it is either Ducky or Filco for you. Realforce is designed for typing and it looks really plain and boring, you will not like it since you stated that you want something that looks good. Filco is really good for gaming because it is such a solid board, however if you want pretty looks then the Ducky shine 3 is better suited for you. Quality wise Ducky and Filco is about the same. They will last for a very long time.

Don't need to think about other brands since Ducky Shine 3 is the best one suited for you based on what you said in the previous posts. It is the best for gaming (TKL version). Full layout keyboard is not for gaming IMO.

And you do not want to get a HHKB since it doesn't have the F1-F12 buttons. In MMO games, those buttons are going to be very useful unless you are someone who mouse click their skill actions 

Give it a thought between Ducky and Filco. Other brands or topre can wait after you tried Ducky or Filco board. Trust me, you will not settle with one board at the end of the day 

Just believe me!

[Gaming]

What about the k95/k70