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« Reply #150 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 17:51:44 »
That's all fine and dandy but where's the topre keyng :(
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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #151 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 17:51:50 »

I believe you mentioned earlier that this setup would not necessitate a pressure/vacuum setup, correct? (I do understand that technically any mold can be cast without the aid of a pressure pot, but the comment in question seemed to imply that there would be minimal process hangups to overcome even if pressure was not used)  If so, was the example cap in the video cast under pressure or not?  Just curious.  :) 

Great work, Binge, and informative video as always.

I can't cast without pressure.  My plastics would foam, but a lot of plastics are great for gravity casting.

So to answer the question...

A) Yes this mold would make a relatively void free casting via standard gravity if you were to account for standard hangups that happens during gravity casting.  The large reservoirs made by the oversized gates/runners/sprues/vents are something that is hard to achieve properly with a flexible mold.  Booper is about the only flexible mold I've seen that has proper sized gates/runners/sprues/vents for gravity casting.

B) No my example key is pressure cast because at this point the plastics I use will not set correctly outside of pressure/vacuum systems.

Perfect, thanks Binge.  :thumb:  Unfortunately it is so dependent on the thermoset used (something I overlooked while asking my question, doh!), but your answer covers all the bases well and helps me understand the intent/design.  :)

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 17:53:47 »
Looks so awesome!

edit: note to self:

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #153 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 18:04:18 »
That's all fine and dandy but where's the topre keyng :(

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 18:09:50 »
That is really cool Binge, what a great tool. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

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« Reply #155 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 18:15:35 »
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« Reply #156 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 20:40:37 »
What type of aluminum is this?

Would this theoretically be able to be used with cast metal such as tin or zinc if the correct type of silicone is used?

One of my classes last semester was Synthesis and Processing of Materials and a large chunk dealt with casting of plastics and metals.

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« Reply #157 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 21:45:24 »
Oh boy! Can't wait to see what more people churn out.

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« Reply #158 on: Mon, 11 January 2016, 22:06:28 »
That's all fine and dandy but where's the topre keyng :(

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« Reply #159 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 01:31:11 »
This is huge, Binge flipping the keycap game on it's head!
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« Reply #160 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 02:04:59 »
thanks for the small video Binge! it's really nice to see how it should be used. Now I just need to find out where to get silicon and resin...
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« Reply #161 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 03:01:26 »
This looks like something even Rowdy could almost use!

Good job guys :)
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« Reply #162 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:24:51 »
That looks so easy!  I think I have something to go on my birthday list for a change, hopefully it'll be available by mid April?
                               
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« Reply #163 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 17:46:21 »
Are you planning to mass produce this or make some here and their?
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« Reply #164 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 18:08:39 »
Are you planning to mass produce this or make some here and their?
I'm assuming its "mass" produced since the whole point of the project is to get the mold in new people's hands, and is a collaboration with a reputable web shop.
    

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« Reply #165 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 18:21:03 »
Are you planning to mass produce this or make some here and their?

This is intended to be made to demand and if that demand is massive expect mass production.
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« Reply #166 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 18:47:09 »
Are you planning to mass produce this or make some here and their?

This is intended to be made to demand and if that demand is massive expect mass production.
Well ****...Sign me up!!! I'll be following this thread for more updates :3
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« Reply #167 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 19:05:42 »
Awesome stuff, Binge, et. al.

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« Reply #168 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 19:38:49 »
Very very cool stuff. Can't wait to get my hands on this
« Last Edit: Tue, 12 January 2016, 19:46:29 by Dodgy »
Hi, what's your favorite color?
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« Reply #169 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 20:09:06 »
Are you planning to mass produce this or make some here and their?

This is intended to be made to demand and if that demand is massive expect mass production.

After that video, one can only assume demand will be massive. I was interested before, but now I know this is a must buy. I had been talking with a buddy about wanting to make blanks for myself to match my stuff, and that looks like a reality now.

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« Reply #170 on: Tue, 12 January 2016, 21:02:58 »
Big stuff from a big boy. So big.

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« Reply #171 on: Wed, 13 January 2016, 09:44:54 »
Big stuff from a big boy. So big.
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« Reply #172 on: Thu, 14 January 2016, 19:23:56 »
Wow, this is amazing. I really want this.

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« Reply #173 on: Thu, 14 January 2016, 20:06:43 »
Can you make a tool to help me win a Keythulhu during the next sale?

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #174 on: Thu, 14 January 2016, 20:46:20 »
Very interesting!

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« Reply #175 on: Thu, 14 January 2016, 20:46:49 »

Can you make a tool to help me win a Keythulhu during the next sale?
Yes. Can we have one of those tools?

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #176 on: Thu, 14 January 2016, 21:11:40 »
Oh wow oh wow! I can't wait to use this!!!!!! HWS killing it already in 2016!!!


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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #177 on: Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:10:30 »
< START.Update3 >

Apply directly to $ynth!  The commercial is terrible but this product is amazing.



In earlier posts I mentioned that I would be sculpting my new HWS keycap.  In the picture above I'm laying some foundation work which will be more obvious in the future, but for now just know that sculpting directly onto the $ynth is EZ-PZ.  Brush on a very light coating of olive/vegetable oil if you are using epoxy, but something like Sculpy would not require any sort of release agent to protect the teflon coating of the mold part.

< END.Update3 >
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:41:09 by Binge »
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« Reply #178 on: Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:30:25 »
< START.Update3 >

Apply directly to $ynth!  The commercial is terrible but this product is amazing.

Show Image


In earlier posts I mentioned that I would be sculpting my new HWS keycap.  In the picture above I'm laying some foundation work which will be more obvious in the future, but for now just know that sculpting directly onto the $ynth is EZ-PZ.  Brush on a very light coating of olive/vegetable oil if you are using epoxy, but something like Sculpy would not require any sort of release agent to protect the teflon coating of the mold part.

< END.Update3 >

« Last Edit: Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:41:24 by Binge »

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« Reply #179 on: Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:21:59 »

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« Reply #180 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 08:38:36 »
No previous experience with sculpting a keycap, but this could help a lot of people to create their own artisans easily!

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #181 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:54:37 »
< START.Update 4 >

A strong foundation is the key to a successful project.

I hope these pictures capture enough of what is happening to better explain myself because at times like this when I am most focused on the project my words are at best messy.  Below each picture the text will explain my intentions and observations.



The epoxy I have used has set and was easily removed from the mold without damage to the :~$ynth.  A few choice dimensions of the mold were captured in the epoxy most importantly the perimeter limit and gates.  The perimeter of the platform built into the :~$ynth is measured to best represent the dimensions of 1x keycaps.  So long as no detail of the sculpted keycap escapes this perimeter it will not have friction problems with keyboard cases and surrounding keycaps.  The gates are important for details later to come in my demonstration, but remember that it is very important that they are captured by the epoxy.



Please be aware that this part is not finished.  At some point I will have to add extra epoxy to it.  Two factors have made that difficult.  The first factor is that epoxy, if left alone, will dry with an almost glassy finish, and the second is the residual oil left on the epoxy part.  I have already washed the part with soap and water, but we need to use an old fashioned clay working technique to truly have a finished foundation piece.



After lightly applying some coarse sandpaper (250 grit) the surface of the part will better accept new epoxy applied to its surface.  Do not worry about how this looks because additional finishing work will be done later.  This is meant to be a foundation piece in the project and does not need to be pretty as much as it needs to capture the perimeter and gates of the mold.



Before continuing I apply a new layer of oil to the mold as it was removed by the first application of epoxy to the mold.  Protecting the :~$ynth is important to its longevity in this project.  Always remember release agent with your good tools.

< END.Update 4 >
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« Reply #182 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:55:36 »
< START.Update 4 >

A strong foundation is the key to a successful project.

I hope these pictures capture enough of what is happening to better explain myself because at times like this when I am most focused on the project my words are at best messy.  Below each picture the text will explain my intentions and observations.

Show Image


The epoxy I have used has set and was easily removed from the mold without damage to the :~$ynth.  A few choice dimensions of the mold were captured in the epoxy most importantly the perimeter limit and gates.  The perimeter of the platform built into the :~$ynth is measured to best represent the dimensions of 1x keycaps.  So long as no detail of the sculpted keycap escapes this perimeter it will not have friction problems with keyboard cases and surrounding keycaps.  The gates are important for details later to come in my demonstration, but remember that it is very important that they are captured by the epoxy.

Show Image


Please be aware that this part is not finished.  At some point I will have to add extra epoxy to it.  Two factors have made that difficult.  The first factor is that epoxy, if left alone, will dry with an almost glassy finish, and the second is the residual oil left on the epoxy part.  I have already washed the part with soap and water, but we need to use an old fashioned clay working technique to truly have a finished foundation piece.

Show Image


After lightly applying some coarse sandpaper (250 grit) the surface of the part will better accept new epoxy applied to its surface.  Do not worry about how this looks because additional finishing work will be done later.  This is meant to be a foundation piece in the project and does not need to be pretty as much as it needs to capture the perimeter and gates of the mold.

Show Image


Before continuing I apply a new layer of oil to the mold as it was removed by the first application of epoxy to the mold.  Protecting the :~$ynth is important to its longevity in this project.  Always remember release agent with your good tools.

< END.Update 4 >

Looks good, nice to see the progress.

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« Reply #183 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 13:59:30 »
< START.Update 4 >

A strong foundation is the key to a successful project.

I hope these pictures capture enough of what is happening to better explain myself because at times like this when I am most focused on the project my words are at best messy.  Below each picture the text will explain my intentions and observations.

Show Image


The epoxy I have used has set and was easily removed from the mold without damage to the :~$ynth.  A few choice dimensions of the mold were captured in the epoxy most importantly the perimeter limit and gates.  The perimeter of the platform built into the :~$ynth is measured to best represent the dimensions of 1x keycaps.  So long as no detail of the sculpted keycap escapes this perimeter it will not have friction problems with keyboard cases and surrounding keycaps.  The gates are important for details later to come in my demonstration, but remember that it is very important that they are captured by the epoxy.

Show Image


Please be aware that this part is not finished.  At some point I will have to add extra epoxy to it.  Two factors have made that difficult.  The first factor is that epoxy, if left alone, will dry with an almost glassy finish, and the second is the residual oil left on the epoxy part.  I have already washed the part with soap and water, but we need to use an old fashioned clay working technique to truly have a finished foundation piece.

Show Image


After lightly applying some coarse sandpaper (250 grit) the surface of the part will better accept new epoxy applied to its surface.  Do not worry about how this looks because additional finishing work will be done later.  This is meant to be a foundation piece in the project and does not need to be pretty as much as it needs to capture the perimeter and gates of the mold.

Show Image


Before continuing I apply a new layer of oil to the mold as it was removed by the first application of epoxy to the mold.  Protecting the :~$ynth is important to its longevity in this project.  Always remember release agent with your good tools.

< END.Update 4 >

More progress! Loving it!

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #184 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:40:22 »
Love seeing the process of using the :~$ynth for custom caps. I'll probably use it for blanks only, but maybe I'll try to get creative at some point in time.

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« Reply #185 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:44:12 »
Love seeing the process of using the :~$ynth for custom caps. I'll probably use it for blanks only, but maybe I'll try to get creative at some point in time.

Yeah I want to do custom color blanks, I would love Topre support. I'm interested in making some custom scoops without bars too. :)

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« Reply #186 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 14:46:04 »
Love seeing the process of using the :~$ynth for custom caps. I'll probably use it for blanks only, but maybe I'll try to get creative at some point in time.

Yeah I want to do custom color blanks, I would love Topre support. I'm interested in making some custom scoops without bars too. :)

I wish it had Topre support as well. Hopefully at some point down the road it can be added.

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #187 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:10:22 »
We haven't made topre keys with it yet, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.  Don't forget that MX-topre sliders are going to be more available in the future.
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« Reply #188 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 15:11:29 »
We haven't made topre keys with it yet, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.  Don't forget that MX-topre sliders are going to be more available in the future.

Then not all hope is lost. :P

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #189 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 16:10:01 »
Let's play spot the ancestry...



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« Reply #190 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 16:26:22 »
Now I definitely want a ~$ynth, where do I sign up?

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« Reply #191 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 16:26:46 »
Let's play spot the ancestry...

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Oh my goodness spacebear and Hoot oh my goodness handee cap and also that gentleman cap. Also the synth evolved so much!
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« Reply #192 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:00:08 »
Let's play spot the ancestry...

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Oh my goodness spacebear and Hoot oh my goodness handee cap and also that gentleman cap. Also the synth evolved so much!

I think you're missing Waldo. hue.

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< START.Update5 >

A few people have raised concerns about the utility of this system.  I'd like to assure you that we're doing our best to make it work with a number of different stems.






Looking forward to sharing more with you all.

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« Reply #193 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:02:14 »
What do you mean? Where's Waldo?
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« Reply #194 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:05:54 »
What do you mean? Where's Waldo?

I thought it was a bit more obvious, my bad.

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #195 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:07:01 »
Let's play spot the ancestry...

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Oh my goodness spacebear and Hoot oh my goodness handee cap and also that gentleman cap. Also the synth evolved so much!

I think you're missing Waldo. hue.

Anyway

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A few people have raised concerns about the utility of this system.  I'd like to assure you that we're doing our best to make it work with a number of different stems.

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Ooh, this is some awesome news! :) Looking forward to more updates!

Offline dohbot

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #196 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 17:30:08 »
What do you mean? Where's Waldo?

I thought it was a bit more obvious, my bad.

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Oh I did not see that at all! I'm really bad at where's Waldo and word searches.
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Offline jerue

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #197 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 18:05:42 »
Let's play spot the ancestry...

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mfw hoot mold


Offline ccarlitos2

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #198 on: Sat, 16 January 2016, 23:29:25 »
Let's play spot the ancestry...

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muthafukin space bear and hoot... ermahgawd gimmeeeeeee
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Offline bcredbottle

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Re: :~$ynth
« Reply #199 on: Sun, 17 January 2016, 13:05:45 »
HOLY ****ING **** PLEASE TELL ME THE SPACE BEAR MOLD IS ALIVE

BINGE TAKE MY MONEY AND MY MAMMARIES PLEASE


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