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Sadly due to SP's new pricing structure we will have to look at other avenues to have this set produced. Community run SA sets are no longer affordable or reasonable, see below

As long as you're not buying from Massdrop or PMK so they can make money, it's gonna cost them the same amount of money for them to produce but cost you more to get your set so they can make up for the money they lose out on without marking up the sets.

http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/troubled-minds/

If we take a look here at a set run recently which should have been after their supposed price increase, Base kit + ISO + nonstandard + numpad = $150.96 at 100 MOQ (which not every kit even met that MOQ, some of the numbers are abysmal)

That includes Massdrop + designer mark ups in pricing, has significantly more keys involved than my all in 1, has kits split up, and even custom legends novelty and dyesub which cost $45 each, AND includes shipping costs to Massdrop.

The quote I was given from SP was the following:

25 sets                   $237.61 per set
50 sets                   $171.32 per set
75 sets                   $149.23 per set
100 sets                 $138.18 per set
150 sets                 $127.13 per set
200 sets                 $121.61 per set
250 sets                 $118.29 per set

The set I'm quoting is 138 keys with 2 space bars and 2 blanks, no custom legends, and does not include ANY additional fees, not even shipping to our distributor and then shipping to you guys.

Yet both of our sets are $1/key at 100 MOQ

Hm..........


So dusk was $169 for 130 keys split into 4 different kits, they got it even worse.

Official response was

"Sorry I wasn't clear - Massdrop gets a larger discount because of the overall volume that they purchase from us. We use the same price formula and the same set volume discount scale, Massdrop just has earned a larger discount."

So basically all these GB's we've run giving them money all these years earns us a big **** you.

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This will be a fully sculpted SA set (1-1-2-3-4-4) with whatever the stock font is. Colors used will be BBJ and NN. It will be all in 1 with as much support for other layouts as I can without jacking up the price too high to be unreasonable. Not sure if there are plans for other kits atm. No novelty keys. F and J are dishes.

If you have questions or suggestions feel free to post.

This will be run old school GB style, no corporate backing and no profit. Just some enthusiasts dedicating some time and love to creating a set the community wants.

Also stayed tuned for some matching Classic Reapers.



NOTE: THE REAPER WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS GROUP BUY AND IS A STANDALONE SALE UP TO BRO'S DISCRETION. I am however getting him the SP color swatches of NN and BBJ so it will color match this set :) 

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:09:09 »
I think instead of a font the entire set should be novelty keys.

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:09:24 »
This novelty canz be inkluded?

**** a "backspace"! "oMiT" what you just typed!



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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:09:28 »
Signature plastic approved using the same colorway?

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:10:19 »
This novelty canz be inkluded?

**** a "backspace"! "oMiT" what you just typed!

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:10:40 »
Signature plastic approved using the same colorway?

Their terms that melvang actually bothered to read says so at least. If not then I'll just change the shade of grey

I've got 50 of em
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:12:23 »
I'll buy a set
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:13:23 »
I already sold me OG set, but this sounds fun.

If you want people to get excited, post this on reddit once you've got some traction - this colorway is very popular there.

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:14:15 »
In there like swim wear.
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:15:07 »
If you want people to get excited, post this on reddit once you've got some traction - this colorway is very popular there.

This would guarantee you meet MOQ.

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:15:47 »
Re use the logos but actually ask the guy that made them if you can use them.
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:19:35 »
I already sold me OG set, but this sounds fun.

If you want people to get excited, post this on reddit once you've got some traction - this colorway is very popular there.

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Post an IC on there. I actually want to see how far it will go. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:20:43 »
I still hate you sifo
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:21:17 »
I already sold me OG set, but this sounds fun.

If you want people to get excited, post this on reddit once you've got some traction - this colorway is very popular there.

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Post an IC on there. I actually want to see how far it will go. :thumb:

hold off before posting on reddit because I won't be grabbing any redditor's attention without any pictures or w/e
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:21:37 »
I still hate you sifo

I'm gonna name this set after bee
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:28:49 »
I still hate you sifo

I'm gonna name this set after bee c

Count me out. I hope it fails now.

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:31:47 »
You're a little late pal. Missed the window by a couple of minutes.

Thanks for the idea though, y'all gonna have a little surprise.



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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:33:39 »
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:33:54 »
I swear to god, this whole things is a gold mind of awesome. Keeping my Tuesday entertaining, yo!

I'm only in for Eslup...much prettier. Something about Pulse is very off putting. Run both!
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:34:25 »
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:36:42 »
You're a little late pal. Missed the window by a couple of minutes.

Thanks for the idea though, y'all gonna have a little surprise.

**** off already

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:39:35 »
Again the question is do you guys actually want this set or not because I sure as hell don't but if enough people do then you will have some sort of replica of it 
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:40:10 »
Again the question is do you guys actually want this set or not because I sure as hell don't but if enough people do then you will have some sort of replica of it

Honestly, I'd have to see some mock-ups first.

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:43:07 »
Hey okay cool. Mission accomplished, mito is gonna run r2 himself so I don't have to do anything. You're welcome guys I take all the credit for round 2 happening
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:53:57 »
never seen a ***** bigger than demik before in my life but now I have
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:05:31 »
Hey okay cool. Mission accomplished, mito is gonna run r2 himself so I don't have to do anything. You're welcome guys I take all the credit for round 2 happening

Well his post isn't faring so well, so I'm not sure how much traction it will have.

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:07:20 »
I'll pay any amount of money to piss MiTo off.
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:09:24 »
I say we switch this up and go cherry font and alps stems!

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:13:00 »
I say we switch this up and go cherry font and alps stems!

But wouldn't cherry font for SA require an entire new set of legends being made and paid for??


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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:13:43 »
I say we switch this up and go cherry font and alps stems!

But wouldn't cherry font for SA require an entire new set of legends being made and paid for??

Plus I don't think SP would make different stems, but who knows?

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:15:07 »
I say we switch this up and go cherry font and alps stems!

But wouldn't cherry font for SA require an entire new set of legends being made and paid for??



They don't have Alps stems for SA, so alps would requite DCS/DSA anyway  :'(

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:15:39 »
I say we switch this up and go cherry font and alps stems!

But wouldn't cherry font for SA require an entire new set of legends being made and paid for??
Could also switch to DCS profile, but then it is not really what Eslup is all about

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:18:40 »
I say we switch this up and go cherry font and alps stems!

But wouldn't cherry font for SA require an entire new set of legends being made and paid for??
Could also switch to DCS profile, but then it is not really what Eslup is all about

True, this really isn't about turning a marginal keyset into something that could be good.  :))

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:20:26 »
Instead of doing a full keyset, what about doing
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:53:02 »
I'll pay any amount of money to piss MiTo off.

Do like me and spend money on useful stuff, I used it for icons.

You could spend on rendering classes instead, so you could offer more of your ****ty rendering services in exchange of free sets like you did with Carbon.

But the community appreciate you charging to "help" others, so who am I to say otherwise.

No amount of money in this world will be enoug to piss me off, I'm so zen.

And it pays off, since I'm getting my own keycap funded by GeekHack!

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:02:01 »
I'll pay any amount of money to piss MiTo off.

Do like me and spend money on useful stuff, I used it for icons.

You could spend on rendering classes instead, so you could offer more of your ****ty rendering services in exchange of free sets like you did with Carbon.

But the community appreciate you charging to "help" others, so who am I to say otherwise.

No amount of money in this world will be enoug to piss me off, I'm so zen.

And it pays off, since I'm getting my own keycap funded by GeekHack!

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:31:17 »
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:04:11 »
Sifo,

Run this set with the correct blue color (BBJ), in 1-1-2-3-4-4, and you have a winner. Just don't use PMK or MD...do an old school GB where you take orders, order the caps, sort and ship yourself. I will support you level 9000 if you do this!!!11!!1!

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:07:34 »
Sifo,

Run this set with the correct blue color (BBJ), in 1-1-2-3-4-4, and you have a winner. Just don't use PMK or MD...do an old school GB where you take orders, order the caps, sort and ship yourself. I will support you level 9000 if you do this!!!11!!1!

u fuking kidding me it isn't the year 2010 i ain't doing the latter
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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:08:28 »
Sifo,

Run this set with the correct blue color (BBJ), in 1-1-2-3-4-4, and you have a winner. Just don't use PMK or MD...do an old school GB where you take orders, order the caps, sort and ship yourself. I will support you level 9000 if you do this!!!11!!1!

u fuking kidding me it isn't the year 2010 i ain't doing the latter

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:38:25 »
Sifo,

Run this set with the correct blue color (BBJ), in 1-1-2-3-4-4, and you have a winner. Just don't use PMK or MD...do an old school GB where you take orders, order the caps, sort and ship yourself. I will support you level 9000 if you do this!!!11!!1!

u fuking kidding me it isn't the year 2010 i ain't doing the latter

Get them pre-sorted.

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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:40:48 »
Sifo,

Run this set with the correct blue color (BBJ), in 1-1-2-3-4-4, and you have a winner. Just don't use PMK or MD...do an old school GB where you take orders, order the caps, sort and ship yourself. I will support you level 9000 if you do this!!!11!!1!

u fuking kidding me it isn't the year 2010 i ain't doing the latter

Get them pre-sorted.

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« Reply #46 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:45:06 »
Sifo,

Run this set with the correct blue color (BBJ), in 1-1-2-3-4-4, and you have a winner. Just don't use PMK or MD...do an old school GB where you take orders, order the caps, sort and ship yourself. I will support you level 9000 if you do this!!!11!!1!

u fuking kidding me it isn't the year 2010 i ain't doing the latter

But its so much better to have no idea when my set will actually be sorted out by some guy I've never met in my life!
    

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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:48:14 »
Signature plastic approved using the same colorway?

Per Melissa, colorways are open season and there is no protection on them.


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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:49:34 »
I already sold me OG set, but this sounds fun.

If you want people to get excited, post this on reddit once you've got some traction - this colorway is very popular there.

Not only that, that colorway seems tremendously popular on MassDrop where several polls have it at well over 200 votes a piece and up well over that.


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Re: [IC] Eslup SA profile keyset
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:49:42 »
Signature plastic approved using the same colorway?

Per Melissa, colorways are open season and there is no protection on them.

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Yep aka it's gonna happen. Unfortunately it will have to be through PMK probably because I'm not gonna sort this **** myself, but you guys are gonna have to vote or however the hell their system works. I'm at work so I'll figure this **** out later
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