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Offline Ellipse

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Re: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F
« Reply #3550 on: Tue, 13 January 2026, 20:59:31 »
We don't get a lot of photos of how folks are using the custom bumpers on the new boards - one such photo and commentary is included below.

"I just wanted to reach out and say thank you again for your continued support. I honestly can never get enough typing on this keyboard.

The main reason for this email is to share my preferred setup for the keyboard feet and bumpers. I think I have found a real sweet spot that gives just enough lift, a comfortable typing angle, and excellent stability. As shown in the photo, I am using two dome bumpers and three square ones. For me, this combination feels perfectly balanced and very comfortable over long typing sessions.

Of course, everyone has their own preferences, but I thought it was worth sharing and encouraging you to give it a try and see what you think."
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Re: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F
« Reply #3551 on: Fri, 16 January 2026, 01:09:50 »
To do list:

This year some of the to do list is to redesign the project web site, update the boxes and foam as mentioned above, update the springs and assembly machine to make the sound more like later production Model F springs (less ringing compared to the earlier-production 4704 and XT springs that the project was based on), continue working on the new keyboard designs mentioned last year (Split Ergonomic, Ortholinear, 5x12 and similar, Kinesis Advantage, etc.), and continue with the new pad printed keys currently tooling to prepare for production.

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Re: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F
« Reply #3552 on: Wed, 18 February 2026, 04:17:20 »
Good day, Ellipse!

I do hope this message finds you well. I am writing to inform you that I have taken the liberty of publishing a review of your magnificent achievement upon my personal website.
Please feel free to make use of any imagery or content therein as you see fit — quotations, reproductions, what have you — and do link to it at your pleasure, should you wish.

https://mateweb.cyber-mates.net/engineerm/archive/keyboard/f122-en.html

Furthermore, I should mention that the relegendable keycap labels have now been updated to version 2, so do avail yourself of them if you find them of any use.
I must express my sincerest gratitude for providing such an utterly splendid experience.

Yours faithfully,
Engineer M

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Re: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F
« Reply #3553 on: Wed, 18 February 2026, 13:08:38 »
Good day, Ellipse!

I do hope this message finds you well. I am writing to inform you that I have taken the liberty of publishing a review of your magnificent achievement upon my personal website.
Please feel free to make use of any imagery or content therein as you see fit — quotations, reproductions, what have you — and do link to it at your pleasure, should you wish.

https://mateweb.cyber-mates.net/engineerm/archive/keyboard/f122-en.html

Furthermore, I should mention that the relegendable keycap labels have now been updated to version 2, so do avail yourself of them if you find them of any use.
I must express my sincerest gratitude for providing such an utterly splendid experience.

Yours faithfully,
Engineer M

A great review!  Thanks for writing it.

The template download link "Download: relegendable-cap-v2.zip" does not seem to work for me as of now.

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Re: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F
« Reply #3554 on: Wed, 18 February 2026, 14:10:07 »
Wow, Ellipse! Thank you! I've just fixed the link.

I'll also post the link here just in case. Feel free to redistribute it.
https://mateweb.cyber-mates.net/engineerm/download/relegendable-cap-v2.zip

I fixed some misalignments in the previous template and separated the example and editing sections, so I think it's much easier to use.

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Re: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F
« Reply #3555 on: Sun, 22 February 2026, 11:40:17 »
Project milestone - this week the 6,500th keyboard shipped, for the new Model F and Beam Spring keyboard projects! 

Who would have known that we would reach that when the project started and I was getting quotes to make 50 F62 and 50 F77 keyboards!

Congrats! Now that you mention that both keyboards are out of production, how many of each do you still have in stock?

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« Reply #3556 on: Sun, 22 February 2026, 12:52:19 »
Not many.  I recommend picking one up if you want it!  Classic cases for beige F62 are gone and industrial gray F62 is almost gone.

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We are close to the one year mark of use of the Leyden Jar controller in the F122 keyboards, and I can confirm the good news that I have received no new Leyden Jar bug reports in the past few months!  Here are the ideas for future updates of the Leyden Jar controller.  Credit for the ideas goes to Rico, Arkku, and other forum members.

If you would like to see anything else or have any feedback on these ideas, please reply here or email me.


Request for F122 testers: 

For the first update, the idea is to remove the 1K resistors directly above each through hole (and of course bridge with solder), which were there initially to protect the other components on the controller; they are not needed. 

For someone who ordered an F122 that hasn't shipped yet, please email me if you'd like to help the project by receiving your board with removed resistors, so that this can be tested for reliability with daily usage.  In the unlikely event that it tests fine in the testing on my side but does not work reliably I'd be fine exchanging the controller for a regular production one with the resistors.

Additionally, anyone can feel free to remove their own 1K through hole resistors on their F122, but this would be done at your own risk.  If you end up testing this, please do let me know the results.


As an update on the new keyboard project designs (split keyboards, etc.), Rico and I are hoping to start prototyping the new controller designs for my upcoming big order of controllers, expected over the coming months as the new keyboard designs are made. 

(1) Firmware update that was discussed last year:  Binning not with an equal number of keys for each bin, but instead binning the same resting values in one bin (and if there are more unique resting values than available bins, putting nearby resting values in the same bin only if needed).  The firmware only uses the number of bins based on the number of unique resting values, with one or two adjacent numerical values going into a given bin.  Currently there are instances where a key position is put into a bin of keys with higher or lower resting values because each bin has the same number of keys, which in the future may affect keyboards as debris enters the board and goes between flipper and capacitive PCB.  This update would optimize the number of needed bins and maximize scan rate.

(2) PS/2 add-on.  Folks emailing me about this are quite excited and looking forward to it.  Some possibly helpful PS/2 RP2040 QMK projects:
https://github.com/tmk/tinyusb_ps2
https://github.com/No0ne/ps2x2pico
https://github.com/BuzzL123/QMK-PS2-USB-Dual-Mode-Keyboard

(3) Rev4 controller update discussion ideas:

Topic 1:  add a few through holes to be populated only if split keyboard functionality is needed.  Two controllers communicate through a USB-C cable, sharing momentary function layer status, sharing shift key status by default for Mac, etc. while allowing use of the solenoid driver and LED lock lights at the same time.  A small PCB with a USB-C receptacle would be used for split keyboards.

Topic 2:  IO pins - add support to use both the column IO pins and also custom code and through holes to support the unused pins on the IO Expander, which are not natively supported in QMK/Vial.  If the Rev4 supports both options, it will maximize flexibility for future proofing rotary encoders, solenoid drivers/solenoids, LEDs, etc.  Extra pins might go towards the "split keyboard case, 3 IO pins for a rotary encoder, more for any other feature that you'd want in the future but have not yet thought about" (to quote Rico).