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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 00:46:26 »
Thanks for the specifications! I'm guessing that picture was taken by you? I really love the shot :thumb:
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 01:08:58 »
Thanks for the specifications! I'm guessing that picture was taken by you? I really love the shot :thumb:
It's not me, It's just my camera did.
My skill sux, SO I BOUGHT VERY EXPENSIVE CAMERA.
Now I know by your post, WORTH IT.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 01:14:18 »
Thanks for the specifications! I'm guessing that picture was taken by you? I really love the shot :thumb:
It's not me, It's just my camera did.
My skill sux, SO I BOUGHT VERY EXPENSIVE CAMERA.
Now I know by your post, WORTH IT.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #103 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 01:14:47 »
Just posting to keep updated on this. Looks really interesting but I probably wont be able to join this year just yet.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #104 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 01:15:20 »
Just sent you a PM Vermillion. :thumb:
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 01:22:31 »
I have not tried a split keyboard, so I am not sure if I would like this, but it does look very cool!
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 02:26:18 »
AHAHHAH I said that with the orion v2 and here I am. There is no end game son!
+1

I think the only true end game for me is the hotswappable "Hammer Alps" 60% that I have. I think it's 1/3 due to the work I put into it, 1/3 due to the love it received, and 1/3 due to actually really enjoying the aesthetics and typing experience.

I think mine is a special case though. Endgames are mythical creatures. :))


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The keyboards I'm buying now are more for fun builds and trying new things! The VE.A might share an endgame spot with that hotswappable Alps build though! Haha.

Thank you again for all your hard work Zefyr and for dealing with all the crazy fans of said hard work!

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 04:12:54 »
Thanks for the specifications! I'm guessing that picture was taken by you? I really love the shot :thumb:
It's not me, It's just my camera did.
My skill sux, SO I BOUGHT VERY EXPENSIVE CAMERA.
Now I know by your post, WORTH IT.

Haha, it was definitely worth it, your photos turned out quite nice! Which camera and lens?!

I also bought a camera (D750 + few lens) recently so I can take nicer keyboard photos haha. :thumb:

I will try to take some photos (hopefully good ones) if I ever make the list. ;)

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 04:22:42 »
Thanks for the specifications! I'm guessing that picture was taken by you? I really love the shot :thumb:
It's not me, It's just my camera did.
My skill sux, SO I BOUGHT VERY EXPENSIVE CAMERA.
Now I know by your post, WORTH IT.

Haha, it was definitely worth it, your photos turned out quite nice! Which camera and lens?!

I also bought a camera (D750 + few lens) recently so I can take nicer keyboard photos haha. :thumb:

I will try to take some photos (hopefully good ones) if I ever make the list. ;)

I use 6D + Sigma 24-70 EX lens.
My wife is always nagging me for taking pictures of keyboards.
Cause you know... These lines  "Sweetheart! I need this camera to take your photos and babies!"
Man, I even cannot believe she buys that line. hehehe.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 04:50:10 »
Thanks for the specifications! I'm guessing that picture was taken by you? I really love the shot :thumb:
It's not me, It's just my camera did.
My skill sux, SO I BOUGHT VERY EXPENSIVE CAMERA.
Now I know by your post, WORTH IT.

Haha, it was definitely worth it, your photos turned out quite nice! Which camera and lens?!

I also bought a camera (D750 + few lens) recently so I can take nicer keyboard photos haha. :thumb:

I will try to take some photos (hopefully good ones) if I ever make the list. ;)

I use 6D + Sigma 24-70 EX lens.
My wife is always nagging me for taking pictures of keyboards.
Cause you know... These lines  "Sweetheart! I need this camera to take your photos and babies!"
Man, I even cannot believe she buys that line. hehehe.

lol. Why not get her to hold the keyboard whilst you're taking the photos. Then you're doing both :)
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #110 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 04:52:12 »
Preparing a massive compilation of all the information we know so far ^-^

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:23:24 »
Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:35:23 »
Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

I had a similar idea.
Would need to go no plate or cut off the left end of the plate and I think that should work. (MX and Alps require different plates if you have not seen)

Looking at the design, it seems a plate is required. But having one of each version and cutting may work. Probably too much trouble though.
« Last Edit: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:42:09 by logomachy »

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:43:32 »
Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

I had a similar idea.
Would need to go no plate or cut off the left end of the plate and I think that should work. (MX and Alps require different plates if you have not seen)

Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

I had a similar idea.
Would need to go no plate or cut off the left end of the plate and I think that should work. (MX and Alps require different plates if you have not seen)

You cannot remove mount plate of VE.A, it's not just for switch arrangement.
And I don't have plan to make mix-and-match switch plate for now.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #114 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:43:57 »
Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

I had a similar idea.
Would need to go no plate or cut off the left end of the plate and I think that should work. (MX and Alps require different plates if you have not seen)

Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

I had a similar idea.
Would need to go no plate or cut off the left end of the plate and I think that should work. (MX and Alps require different plates if you have not seen)

You cannot remove mount plate of VE.A, it's not just for switch arrangement.
And I don't have plan to make mix-and-match switch plate for now.

Can I do some manual trimming for the plate? I really live AEK cap profile, but apple had to go out of their way to screw up the F row's key stems.
« Last Edit: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:48:22 by Delirious »

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:50:56 »
Cherry or replicas for F Row -> EnjoyPBT dyesub
Alps or replicas for everything else -> AEKII keycaps.

Got it!!

I had a similar idea.
Would need to go no plate or cut off the left end of the plate and I think that should work. (MX and Alps require different plates if you have not seen)

Yea, definitely need some manual trimming for the plate. Then again nothing is impossible for the love of Alps. I also choose this path because I really live AEK cap profile, but apple had to go out of their way to screw up the F row's key stems.

If you don't mind keycap print messed-up, AEK + M0116 Keycap combination is just fit in VE.A.
Since there's no 1.75 shift on Apple caps. just one 1.75 command key from M0116 bottom row.
So, If you are planning to use AEK caps, you probably needs M0116 also.

here's what it looks like
« Last Edit: Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:56:42 by zefyr »
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:17:32 »
The creator:

Vermillion or zefyr (ZeFyr "Vermillion" J.) is a Korean based keyboard creator, making the following: Vergo type.T, alpetit, alpetit II, VE.A with Vergo type.T-II. He is a member of the KBDLAB and has always been interested in building "endgame" ergonomic keyboards.

"Vergo" is a mixture of Vermillion and Ergonomic. The VE.A is an updated version of all the ergonomic boards he has designed and made. This one comes with a stand so that it is more comfortable to type on, but it seems optional.

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History:

The first round was private, as it was mainly a test of quality and for the production time scale. He kept it to people that he talked to very often, so that he could get good feedback about how the board held up. Last round was very personal, and had custom engraving and numbered parts but this won't be involved this time.

He has ran a few group buys before, and this is the first international one. There is already a lot of hype around the VE.A, so spots will fill up quickly.

Specification of VE.A:
  • Four pieces of Aluminium Armor (Aluminium 6061), Anodized
  • Two pieces of Poly-Carbonate Frame
  • Two pieces of 1.5T STS Switch mounting plate
  • Two pieces of 0.8T STS Laser marked plate
  • Matching 3M urethane bumpon included
FAQ:

When will this happen?
No date is set in stone, but late February is a possibility.

What switches can the PCB take?
MX and Alps.

What connection links the two parts?
SATA.

Is there a list to get one of these boards?
Originally, there was. But due to the amount of interest there isn't one anymore.

What is the expected cost?
$400-450. There is Korean tax too, which is 10% + 3.4%.

How many can be made?
First mention was 30, second was 50. Somewhere between there.

What colors are available?
Black, silver & possibly dark gray. This may change.

What other options will be available?
Acrylic stand & pre-soldering will be included as an option.

What firmware will be used?
BootMapperClient by winkeyless.kr

Gallery:

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Other links:

VE.A GB post
Initial Sample
Final Sample
Vergo Stand

I've put all the information into the OP from this thread. Included a FAQ from what I know myself. Zefyr is allowing us to keep this thread open even though he's locked the IC thread. If you want me to credit and/or add and/or remove anything then PM me.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:58:11 »
The creator:

Vermillion or zefyr (ZeFyr "Vermillion" J.) is a Korean based keyboard creator, making the following: Vergo type.T, alpetit, alpetit II, VE.A with Vergo type.T-II. He is a member of the KBDLAB and has always been interested in building "endgame" ergonomic keyboards.

"Vergo" is a mixture of Vermillion and Ergonomic. The VE.A is an updated version of all the ergonomic boards he has designed and made. This one comes with a stand so that it is more comfortable to type on, but it seems optional.

More
History:

The first round was private, as it was mainly a test of quality and for the production time scale. He kept it to people that he talked to very often, so that he could get good feedback about how the board held up. Last round was very personal, and had custom engraving and numbered parts but this won't be involved this time.

He has ran a few group buys before, and this is the first international one. There is already a lot of hype around the VE.A, so spots will fill up quickly.

Specification of VE.A:
  • Four pieces of Aluminium Armor (Aluminium 6061), Anodized
  • Two pieces of Poly-Carbonate Frame
  • Two pieces of 1.5T STS Switch mounting plate
  • Two pieces of 0.8T STS Laser marked plate
  • Matching 3M urethane bumpon included
FAQ:

When will this happen?
No date is set in stone, but late February is a possibility.

What switches can the PCB take?
MX and Alps.

What connection links the two parts?
SATA.

Is there a list to get one of these boards?
Originally, there was. But due to the amount of interest there isn't one anymore.

What is the expected cost?
$400-450. There is Korean tax too, which is 10% + 3.4%.

How many can be made?
First mention was 30, second was 50. Somewhere between there.

What colors are available?
Black, silver & possibly dark gray. This may change.

What other options will be available?
Acrylic stand & pre-soldering will be included as an option.

What firmware will be used?
BootMapperClient by winkeyless.kr

Gallery:

Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Other links:

VE.A GB post
Initial Sample
Final Sample
Vergo Stand

I've put all the information into the OP from this thread. Included a FAQ from what I know myself. Zefyr is allowing us to keep this thread open even though he's locked the IC thread. If you want me to credit and/or add and/or remove anything then PM me.

Thanks xondat, makes the information a little easier to find and look over.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 12:37:21 »
I will still jump on this if I get the chance, but I think this would would look even cleaner with less keys (mainly the cluster on the left, which does bring up the issue of how to balance the right half). I would love a layout with fewer keys on the bottom row also.

Definitely the most interesting keyboard I have seen in a while, excited to see the GB :)

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 15:28:47 »
If I hadn't been sick the past two days and missed this thread :'( Oh and also octagon v2 by 8 entries  :-X

Welp I guess my wallet is safe for another month  :rolleyes:
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 15:42:26 »
If I hadn't been sick the past two days and missed this thread :'( Oh and also octagon v2 by 8 entries  :-X

Welp I guess my wallet is safe for another month  :rolleyes:

GB isn't open at all, this is just a discussion thread.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #121 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 16:19:08 »
Yeah I know, but from what I understand following this thread there is already a "list", and that it was filled up almost instantaneously. I would totally be interested to hop on this beauty if there is a chance though.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 16:21:17 »
Yeah I know, but from what I understand following this thread there is already a "list", and that it was filled up almost instantaneously. I would totally be interested to hop on this beauty if there is a chance though.

The "list" is just an interest check in the literal sense of the term: those who are interested in his keyboard. That is, those who like his keyboard and are interested in his work, not necessarily purchasing one.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 16:33:14 »
Yeah I know, but from what I understand following this thread there is already a "list", and that it was filled up almost instantaneously. I would totally be interested to hop on this beauty if there is a chance though.

And, Really, You should not think "the list" as pass for joining.
I already mentioned several times (*soap*)
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #124 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:34:50 »
Yeah I know, but from what I understand following this thread there is already a "list", and that it was filled up almost instantaneously. I would totally be interested to hop on this beauty if there is a chance though.

The list has been abandoned. It started as people that he talked to, then people than asked him and then it got scraped.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:43:48 »
Yeah I know, but from what I understand following this thread there is already a "list", and that it was filled up almost instantaneously. I would totally be interested to hop on this beauty if there is a chance though.

The list has been abandoned. It started as people that he talked to, then people than asked him and then it got scraped.

Huh...

He stated a number of times on the Interest Check thread that he would lock it after he believed it to be "too much" for him to handle, which is well within his right to do -- and not surprisingly it quickly got to the point that he had to.

While he has mentioned several times that making it on the "list" does not guarantee that you will be able to purchase a VE.A -- there was no indication that making it on the list due to early interest will not be a factor in his decision-making process.

perhaps this is a new development that you derived from a personal communication w/ Vermillion?

If that is the case......#VE.ATherapyNeeded  :confused:
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:49:10 »
So, I'll not listing anymore. It hit almost 100. Waaaaaay to many.

I'll pick application on my own way.

I locked IC thread just because "the silly list" thing I have mentioned.
That maybe a disappointing for someone, so as preventing action, I locked IC thread.

I may of misunderstood it, but these two quotes together make it seem like there's no point.

I've PM'd him for official confirmation.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 18:04:43 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #128 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:46:12 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.
« Last Edit: Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:48:38 by zefyr »
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #129 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:50:06 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.

Sounds good to me. Thanks for explaining your thoughts and reasoning. Hopefully everyone who wants to be a part of this group buy can participate.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #130 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:50:45 »
lol Welcome to Western audiences, zefyr!

Glad to have you here, and I look forward to seeing your amazing work. I've seen more of your boards and what I love most is seeing the different cases people have put them in.

One question, though: Why the left cluster? It seems redundant considering the rest of the board has the necessary keys. Or is it to add a sense of equilibrium to the two halves?

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #131 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:51:53 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.

Thanks for the update and for clarifying everything about "the list" for us.  I would love to get in and have a chance to purchase this board but if it doesn't happen it's completely understandable, as we all like to enjoy our off-work time and expecting someone to ditch that to produce a bunch of keyboards would be unreasonable :)
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:58:28 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I'm just really happy to look that thread growing, hehe.

No worries, Vermillion! I (and many others here on the site im sure) understand how it can be overwhelming to reach out to a different market. I don't
think anyone expects you to be a machine in the least ! I think your passion for the hobby is quite evident and we do all appreciate that. Also please dont feel anxiety because you are a foreigner. As you noted before Geekhack is quite international, and, from my limited exprience, its members are very friendly!

Apologies if any of my/other responses concerning your selection process is mistaken for some sort of aggression, that wasn't the intention ~
Groupbuys & limited runs of all sorts are run on this website, and I believe many of the members are well aware that there is no guarantee when it comes to being included! No-will is ever harbored on account of not being able to partake! (there are a number of "therapy" threads that serve for the sole purpose of consoling one another in a missed inclusion, even)

Keep doing what you do!  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:00:43 by KetchyKech »
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:01:48 »
lol Welcome to Western audiences, zefyr!

Glad to have you here, and I look forward to seeing your amazing work. I've seen more of your boards and what I love most is seeing the different cases people have put them in.

One question, though: Why the left cluster? It seems redundant considering the rest of the board has the necessary keys. Or is it to add a sense of equilibrium to the two halves?

equilibrium, exactly. I have obsession about it, what you guys say that in English? OCD seem to much for my case since I don't need therapy. :)
Plus, it can be used as quick-macro key or any key you want. you can remap it to any key you want.

Like this, I type my e-mail address with one key. change my keyboards LED color when I feel moody.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:04:13 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.

Appreciate the clarification and transparency. :thumb:  The words gets thrown around a lot but real life is definitely more important than this hobby. 

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:05:02 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.

Thanks for the update zefyr. Please do not feel obligated to make as many boards as needed and overburden yourself. Make the amount of boards that you're comfortable doing and if all is well then you can have a second round to please more people. There's always sales that we miss out on here whether it's artisans, keyboards, etc. We'll deal with it and move on. :thumb:
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:06:25 »
I am so excited to see how this turns out. This is just the coolest keyboard I have seen ever! I love everything about it. The layout is genius and it accepts keysets! I am so excited and I will definitely be watching this!
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:06:33 »
Apologies if any of my/other responses concerning your selection process is mistaken for some sort of aggression, that wasn't the intention ~
Groupbuys & limited runs of all sorts are run on this website, and I believe many of the members are well aware that there is no guarantee when it comes to being included!

None taken :)
As I mentioned before, I'm just happy. may be too happy that's why I felt I'm scared. (dumb, isn't it? haha)
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:11:55 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.

Hahaha I like your sense of humor man. Please put me on your buddy list  :p

Don't let our insane amount of interest deter you. Just do this however you want to, with the least amount of stress possible, we are all just grateful for the opportunity, and we want this to keep being fun for you too.  :thumb:
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:13:22 »
AHAHHAH I said that with the orion v2 and here I am. There is no end game son!

the struggle is real :P you wanted that orion so badly haha

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:16:05 »
Ahhh, i see what you are saying -- No need for confirmation -- wouldn't want to burden/overwhelm him further  :eek:

I'm certain I am one among many others that want clarity in order to sate our anxiety levels over being chosen.

But we'll have to sit & wait for when he is adequately prepared/wants to divulge that info

OK guys, this is how it went so far, and will be.

First of all, when I'm a total stranger here, I used the word "you are on my list." like... a joke. you know - "HEY!!! YOU ARE ON MY LIST!!!' as a threat when a character on TV show gets mad.
I just want to be friendly and be a funny foreign guy. (Wow I'm a foreigner here~ feel weird.)
It's obvious that I used that phrase wrong. Maybe I should not watch US TV (like BigBangTheory and so on) anymore :)
I wanted to make friends who are interested in my works
And being friend that I really don't want turn down somebody.
That why I made my list. It's clear now? It's just my buddie list :) (that now I don't know why I kept that.)
But somewhere I don't know, it changed! like its some pass for pre-join ticket! even I didn't realized that.
So many PMs requesting "get me in the list", posting about "list"...
So frankly, I got a little scared, stressed :). That's why I closed IC thread.
I have a little problem to take things seriously more than I have to.

OK, If I have to be official, I'll put it this way.
I'll try not to turn down application of friends, I'm no machine. I cares. I cares my friends.
But there's no "list" anymore.
This means "let me in your list" won't be the way in the GB.
After all, somebody can takes this like bragging, thinking 'who the hell this guys thinks he is?'
Believe me, I know I'm not. I don't have any purpose to talk myself up.
Please, don't be disappointed, I have limited amount of off-work time.
This is not my job, it's my hobby just like you guys.

And plus one. I'll unlock IC, that doesn't mean I'll append my list or something. I just love to look that thread grows, hehe.

Hahaha I like your sense of humor man. Please put me on your buddy list  :p

Don't let our insane amount of interest deter you. Just do this however you want to, with the least amount of stress possible, we are all just grateful for the opportunity, and we want this to keep being fun for you too.  :thumb:

Oh man, there's actual "buddie list" on GH.
Wow, I made second dumb expression.
Oopsy, I did it again~
ZeFyr "Vermillion" J.

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:19:25 »

Oh man, there's actual "buddie list" on GH.
Wow, I made second dumb expression.
Oopsy, I did it again~

Don't worry, I'm just joking  :-*
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:24:39 »
hate to be that guy but...if there's no list how are people chosen? :-X

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #143 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:28:28 »
hate to be that guy but...if there's no list how are people chosen? :-X

there is a list of options on how to choose people
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #144 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:32:07 »
hate to be that guy but...if there's no list how are people chosen? :-X

there is a list of options on how to choose people

How about the first people to have posted in this thread get a crack at it :p

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #145 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:34:10 »
hate to be that guy but...if there's no list how are people chosen? :-X

there is a list of options on how to choose people

How about the first people to have posted in this thread get a crack at it :p

Zefyr will decide on what he wants to do. Just because we were coincidentally on the same time the the thread was posted and commented first does not mean that the rest should get screwed.

Sadly no matter what Zefyr does there will be somebody to complain and whine how they didn't get a board.
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #146 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:40:07 »
Sadly no matter what Zefyr does there will be somebody to complain and whine how they didn't get a board.

Sadly yes, there's always  :-[
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #147 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:46:43 »
Sadly no matter what Zefyr does there will be somebody to complain and whine how they didn't get a board.

I'm going to complain and whine even if I get one.  >:D

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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:47:28 »
Sadly no matter what Zefyr does there will be somebody to complain and whine how they didn't get a board.

I'm going to complain and whine even if I get one.  >:D

We can all complain and whine together! :p
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Re: VE.A Discussion Thread
« Reply #149 on: Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:50:00 »
hate to be that guy but...if there's no list how are people chosen? :-X

there is a list of options on how to choose people

How about the first people to have posted in this thread get a crack at it :p

Zefyr will decide on what he wants to do. Just because we were coincidentally on the same time the the thread was posted and commented first does not mean that the rest should get screwed.

Sadly no matter what Zefyr does there will be somebody to complain and whine how they didn't get a board.

I mean there's always disappointment when someone is left out and sees others enjoying something that they wished they could've got on in. That's very understandable.

To start drama over it is less understandable and to cause a commotion is no.

But I mean, I totally understand that feeling of having missed out.