Gaterons - more definitive information?

[Polymer]

It seems like the information on Gaterons is all over the place...at least as far as how much force is required for each of the different switches they have..and it sounds like Gateron has made some changes as well which probably doesn't help.

Does anyone have (or can post) some more definitive info?

Eg.  Gateron Reds actuate at 45g.  Is that the midpoint of the travel?  Some people say they're lighter than normal reds..this would suggest that isn't the case but no force graphs to really say.
Blacks - Some people say they're slightly harder to press than MX, some less...actuation looks to be 50g which would suggest less.
Yellows - 50g like Blacks and these seem to have gone through some changes.  They bottom at a different force from blacks from what I can tell but not sure...

I think just about the only information I can find that seems somewhat consistent are:  They're smoother than mx.  The actuation forces people post seem to be somewhat consistent....

[Polymer]

Haha..really?  I guess no one knows much about Gaterons because the information is all over the map?

[Leslieann]

45grams actuation means just that, it triggers the switch at 45grams, which on linears would be midpoint or thereabout.

Depending on the spring's design, it can trigger at 45, and bottom out with less pressure. For example Cherry Red starts at about 30 grams, hits 45 as it triggers and is 60grams by the time it hits bottom. A different spring could start at 35, trigger at 45 and bottom at 50 if it was designed right. They would both be rated the same, but feel quite different.

[Polymer]

45grams actuation means just that, it triggers the switch at 45grams, which on linears would be midpoint or thereabout.

Depending on the spring's design, it can trigger at 45, and bottom out with less pressure. For example Cherry Red starts at about 30 grams, hits 45 as it triggers and is 60grams by the time it hits bottom. A different spring could start at 35, trigger at 45 and bottom at 50 if it was designed right. They would both be rated the same, but feel quite different.

Appreciate the help but that's not really what I'm asking for..

As you said, depending on the spring's design and even the slider itself, it'll impact how it feels..the weight AT actuation doesn't tell me anything.

Given that actuation point on the Gateron's seems to be somewhat different, it is even harder to gauge how these feel in comparison to their MX counterparts..and the lack of detailed information makes it difficult to know what exactly you're looking at.

[Vittra]

This is the closest to a compilation of Gateron information that you will find:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Gateron_switches

I believe you are out of luck for force graphs/bottom out resistance, that's scattered in various imgur links/reddit posts and the like.

[Homenubbie]

Ripster posted numbers at /r/MK in his wiki.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/switch_guides#wiki_gateron_switches