New PCB for my 60% build - which one? (Satan GH60 / AMJ60 PRO2.0)

[hKing]

As mentioned above.

I am planning a new 60 % build for myself. Case and plate will be black.
The main requirement would be a pre-soldered board as I am a total noob when it comes to soldering

Which one can you recommend?

Satan GH60
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SATAN-pre-soldered-DIY-GH60-Keyboard-PCB-support-Breathing-LED-60-cherry-MX-/272032784852

AMJ60 PRO2.0
http://world.taobao.com/item/42204599599.htm?fromSite=main
(Is this pre-soldered?)

A more pricey one would be a Bface X2. Price is pretty steep compared to the above mentioned.

Which one can you recommend? Are there better alternatives?

I'd prefer a black one for color matching...

[Moistgun]

I have a 60satan. 
Worked well for me.
Got it from that seller as well.

Any specific questions about it? I have no experience with any other pcbs.

[hKing]

I am asking myself if the white color of the pcb will be visible when the keyboard (black case, black plate) is fully assembled.

What kind of firmware does it use - any problems with it?

[TalkingTree]

If you're not on a rush, you can get Gon's NerD 60 through LeandreN's Round 4.

[LeandreN]

If you're not on a rush, you can get Gon's NerD 60 through LeandreN's Round 4.

This seems like an ok option.

[appleonama]

just go for gh60

the gon is cool and all but wait times are insane

[TalkingTree]

the gon is cool and all but wait times are insane

That's why I suggested to get it through LeandreN's Round 4. Gon promised not to delay orders in his GB and LeandreN's orders are usually completely shipped out within two months from him.

[hKing]

Hm, I don't know, it's only an IC
I wanted to assemble it in march / april when Zeal ships his R2 Zealios ...

Is there an ETA on those PCBS?

Money isn't the problem. Maybe I just buy it straight from his shop.

Am I right that the won't be that much of a difference between Satan GH and Gon's NerD?

/edit

Nevermind, I think I'll go with the FaceW 60% in black. Found this PCB on MK.com!

[ctm]

I have a 60satan. 
Worked well for me.
Got it from that seller as well.

Any specific questions about it? I have no experience with any other pcbs.

Is GH60 Satan exactly like GH60? Can I flash in TMK for GH60 without any modification?

[Moistgun]

I just run the tmk toolkit,  run setup, drop my keymap.Eep onto the refresh.bat.   And it's remapped .

[Moistgun]

I have a 60satan. 
Worked well for me.
Got it from that seller as well.

Any specific questions about it? I have no experience with any other pcbs.

Is GH60 Satan exactly like GH60? Can I flash in TMK for GH60 without any modification?

And I don't know much about the gh60 other than it doesn't support leds

[appleonama]

the gon is cool and all but wait times are insane

That's why I suggested to get it through LeandreN's Round 4. Gon promised not to delay orders in his GB and LeandreN's orders are usually completely shipped out within two months from him.

This is just my opinion but it's kinda cruddy for gon to be doing this while personal orders go unfulfilled. Anyways gon has a track record for delays

[ideus]

This r/MK conversation may add some information to this thread, I can also add that the Nerd60 is easier to program than the GH60´s due to the GUI interface that GON developed, its controller can be flashed with TMK as well, but that just void the warranty and there is no much that TMK add to the functionality already built into the GON.