So I have a Topre. That's it, then?

[nerp]

I have my Unicomps and my Model M, now I have this Topre Type Heaven that really has blown my mind. It's pretty much everything I've wanted in a keyboard and I'm kicking myself for not getting one sooner, or a Realforce.

I've played with the Cherry switches, I'm not much of an Alps man and while I love my buckling spring, I'm sorry, these Topre switches just nail it.

The Type Heaven is solid enough for the price and I get the the ABS keys aren't in the same league as the PBTs on the Realforce. They had to cut some corners to get the price down. If I didn't know the PBT keys were that much better I wouldn't care.

So the way I see it, I have a future Realforce purchase in my future, and that's about it. Is this really the end of the line? Can anyone give me a reason to look beyond this for any reason? Has anyone migrated away from Topre switches to something else and can offer a compelling story?

[SpAmRaY]

In b4 HHKB.

But seriously, I've introduced a few people to topre through the type heaven and they've been using them ever since. In my opinion it is a great board and even though the caps are ABS they aren't awful.

I say until you find a reason to be unhappy with what you've got look no further.

[quasistellar]

Topre may be the endgame for most, but it can still try to break you! Sure, you've got a Type Heaven. Now you want a Realforce.  Then, the HHKB whispers will get louder until you can no longer resist. Even then, the forbidden fruit of SA keycaps on Topre will be calling your name, and you'll just have to get a Novatouch.

Good luck, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[demik]

55g RF and HHKB are topre.

Everything else is "topre"

[FLFisherman]

55g RF and HHKB are topre.

Everything else is "topre"

At least capitalize the glorious switch type. It's like you don't really care about Topre.

[hwood34]

traaaaash

[appleonama]

I've never tried the typeheaven 

[demik]

55g RF and HHKB are topre.

Everything else is "topre"

At least capitalize the glorious switch type. It's like you don't really care about Topre.

TOE PE REH

[Olumin]

The next step would be a Typewriter.

[1391406]

I started with a Type Heaven, upgraded to an RF 87U and ultimately an RF 104U Silent. /endgame

[nerp]

I started with a Type Heaven, upgraded to an RF 87U and ultimately an RF 104U Silent. /endgame

Perhaps a compromise and a nice 9-pin dot matrix printer.

[derb2k2]

"That's it, then?"

[rowdy]

55g RF and HHKB are topre.

Everything else is "topre"

At least capitalize the glorious switch type. It's like you don't really care about Topre.

TOE PE REH

Thorpe.

[bocahgundul]

No its not the end of the line.

You still haven't tried alps and other old switches

[y11971alex]

There's always that $500 beamspring board still stuck on eBay.

[slickmamba]

If you love the type-heaven, you should try 55g realforce or hhkb. 

[xtrafrood]

You know you want a silent now. Admit it!  )

Edit: + Alps

[b0f0]

I suspect that when you buy a topre keyboard and because of a high price you pay, later you dont admit that its not that different or maybe I should say much better than MX switches. Or maybe I am wrong about that, but the price for topre, hmm,  lets look at HHKB2 is really high, 200$ or 300$ for type S. Becuase I am from EU this means I pay the tax of 22% and then the custum cares (at the border) and the shipping costs. That makes price go up to heaven.

and then when I think about HHKB:
a this price not illuminated
not programmable (could go with hasu but add another amount of $$)
and probably later not satisfied with keycaps

But people still believe in it. Dont understand this.
I just saw someone sell his hhkb for 250€, a used one...

I ll wait for HHKB 3 or something like Whitefox... hopfully its all programmable and much different than the way it is now.

But then again a really have to find someone with topre to test it myself.

[xtrafrood]

I suspect that when you buy a topre keyboard and because of a high price you pay, later you dont admit that its not that different or maybe I should say much better than MX switches. Or maybe I am wrong about that, but the price for topre, hmm,  lets look at HHKB2 is really high, 200$ or 300$ for type S. Becuase I am from EU this means I pay the tax of 22% and then the custum cares (at the border) and the shipping costs. That makes price go up to heaven.

and then when I think about HHKB:
a this price not illuminated
not programmable (could go with hasu but add another amount of $$)
and probably later not satisfied with keycaps

But people still believe in it. Dont understand this.
I just saw someone sell his hhkb for 250€, a used one...

I ll wait for HHKB 3 or something like Whitefox... hopfully its all programmable and much different than the way it is now.

But then again a really have to find someone with topre to test it myself.

Perfection is expensive, is it not?

[b0f0]

I suspect that when you buy a topre keyboard and because of a high price you pay, later you dont admit that its not that different or maybe I should say much better than MX switches. Or maybe I am wrong about that, but the price for topre, hmm,  lets look at HHKB2 is really high, 200$ or 300$ for type S. Becuase I am from EU this means I pay the tax of 22% and then the custum cares (at the border) and the shipping costs. That makes price go up to heaven.

and then when I think about HHKB:
a this price not illuminated
not programmable (could go with hasu but add another amount of $$)
and probably later not satisfied with keycaps

But people still believe in it. Dont understand this.
I just saw someone sell his hhkb for 250€, a used one...

I ll wait for HHKB 3 or something like Whitefox... hopfully its all programmable and much different than the way it is now.

But then again a really have to find someone with topre to test it myself.

Perfection is expensive, is it not?

Yes. But I am affraid its too much for what you really get. Hope I am wrong.

[demik]

a this price not illuminated

is this suppose to be a con? hell, i'd pay extra to have backlit gaudiness removed.

[xtrafrood]

I suspect that when you buy a topre keyboard and because of a high price you pay, later you dont admit that its not that different or maybe I should say much better than MX switches. Or maybe I am wrong about that, but the price for topre, hmm,  lets look at HHKB2 is really high, 200$ or 300$ for type S. Becuase I am from EU this means I pay the tax of 22% and then the custum cares (at the border) and the shipping costs. That makes price go up to heaven.

and then when I think about HHKB:
a this price not illuminated
not programmable (could go with hasu but add another amount of $$)
and probably later not satisfied with keycaps

But people still believe in it. Dont understand this.
I just saw someone sell his hhkb for 250€, a used one...

I ll wait for HHKB 3 or something like Whitefox... hopfully its all programmable and much different than the way it is now.

But then again a really have to find someone with topre to test it myself.

Perfection is expensive, is it not?

Yes. But I am affraid its too much for what you really get. Hope I am wrong.

I thought the same. But then I looked up the temperature tolerances of silicone. This is no ordinary rubber dome (add springs) 

[b0f0]

is this suppose to be a con? hell, i'd pay extra to have backlit gaudiness removed.

For the price it sells its a con. Why ? Because when you have a cloudy day or when it becomes dark in the room the LED lights really make a difference. I am able to see the chars easily when using LED.

[b0f0]

I suspect that when you buy a topre keyboard and because of a high price you pay, later you dont admit that its not that different or maybe I should say much better than MX switches. Or maybe I am wrong about that, but the price for topre, hmm,  lets look at HHKB2 is really high, 200$ or 300$ for type S. Becuase I am from EU this means I pay the tax of 22% and then the custum cares (at the border) and the shipping costs. That makes price go up to heaven.

and then when I think about HHKB:
a this price not illuminated
not programmable (could go with hasu but add another amount of $$)
and probably later not satisfied with keycaps

But people still believe in it. Dont understand this.
I just saw someone sell his hhkb for 250€, a used one...

I ll wait for HHKB 3 or something like Whitefox... hopfully its all programmable and much different than the way it is now.

But then again a really have to find someone with topre to test it myself.

Perfection is expensive, is it not?

Yes. But I am affraid its too much for what you really get. Hope I am wrong.

I thought the same. But then I looked up the temperature tolerances of silicone. This is no ordinary rubber dome (add springs) 

I ll think about it, maybe saving money for such a keyboard is really a good choice to make.

[xtrafrood]

I could never understand that. I live in Florida, bright as ****. So I have a covering on the window (pitch black), the monitor is on low, yet I can still look down to see when I'm hitting CTRL + V... Get a desk lamp? idk.. Will I be converted to RGB keyboards?! 

[demik]

is this suppose to be a con? hell, i'd pay extra to have backlit gaudiness removed.

For the price it sells its a con. Why ? Because when you have a butty day or when it becomes dark in the room the LED lights really make a difference. I am able to see the chars easily when using LED.

why are you looking at your keys to begin with?

i mean if you're going to spend that much money you should know how to touch type already..

[b0f0]

I could never understand that. I live in Florida, bright as ****. So I have a covering on the window (pitch black), the monitor is on low, yet I can still look down to see when I'm hitting CTRL + V... Get a desk lamp? idk.. Will I be converted to RGB keyboards?! 

I like white LED light. Desk lamp occupies space on the desk, but to have one on it, yes I could do that.

[demik]

get blanks. learn to touch type. you'll wonder why it took you so long.

[xtrafrood]

Oh, well the OP is set. White light? get a Logitech Romer-G?

[fuzzybaffy]

People keep bringing up the prices of a typical Realforce/HHKB board, but they almost always forget about the dye-sub PBT caps that they come with. They are far better than the other dye-sub PBT keycaps I bought from Imsto, which cost $90.

So when you consider a typical Cherry MX board costs around $100, and a set of Imsto caps cost $90, a Cherry MX board with a set of caps that are-not-as-good as Realforce caps cost around $190, which isn't that far from a typical Realforce board.

[xtrafrood]

People keep bringing up the prices of a typical Realforce/HHKB board, but they almost always forget about the dye-sub PBT caps that they come with. They are far better than the other dye-sub PBT keycaps I bought from Imsto, which cost $90.

So when you consider a typical Cherry MX board costs around $100, and a set of Imsto caps cost $90, a Cherry MX board with a set of caps that are-not-as-good as Realforce caps cost around $190, which isn't that far from a typical Realforce board.

If you are comparing Realforce to MX keysets you will see some variances in kerning, but don't let that scale your opinion. Realforce delivers! Cherry Mx is Digiorno! I'm kidding of course, it's all relative.

[jerue]

55g Realforce and a PBT spacebar. It's all you need. No need to look past anything, unless you want to get into ergonomics- then just get a uTRON ^_^

[derb2k2]

People keep bringing up the prices of a typical Realforce/HHKB board, but they almost always forget about the dye-sub PBT caps that they come with. They are far better than the other dye-sub PBT keycaps I bought from Imsto, which cost $90.

So when you consider a typical Cherry MX board costs around $100, and a set of Imsto caps cost $90, a Cherry MX board with a set of caps that are-not-as-good as Realforce caps cost around $190, which isn't that far from a typical Realforce board.

I completely agree with this. The Realforce/HHKB dyesubs are seriously one of, if not the best caps around. Although I would say that they could be a little thicker, the texture and overall quality is up there.

[robbles]

I"m really glad I went straight from MX Blues to Topre without noodling around too much in the Cherry world. I still really want to try Matias Quiet Click, but I can get one off Massdrop for under $100 if I ever get too curious. It's a cult. Topre is a cult, there's no question about it. Glad OP eventually found his way down the "right" path.

[robbles]

People keep bringing up the prices of a typical Realforce/HHKB board, but they almost always forget about the dye-sub PBT caps that they come with. They are far better than the other dye-sub PBT keycaps I bought from Imsto, which cost $90.

So when you consider a typical Cherry MX board costs around $100, and a set of Imsto caps cost $90, a Cherry MX board with a set of caps that are-not-as-good as Realforce caps cost around $190, which isn't that far from a typical Realforce board.

This is so true. Even the cost of a Pok3r and a set of Granite would cost you the price of a HHKB. I mean, yeah you could get an MX board for under $100, but the phrase "you get what you pay for" holds pretty true in the keyboard world.

[Lurch]

topre was my first love, but, model f is best.

model f > topre > blue alps > model m > orange/salmon alps > 65g zealios > 62g blues

imo, of course.

More

SSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKEE!!!!!

MODEL F #1

it's close though, i still love the heck out of topre

[chyros]

People keep bringing up the prices of a typical Realforce/HHKB board, but they almost always forget about the dye-sub PBT caps that they come with. They are far better than the other dye-sub PBT keycaps I bought from Imsto, which cost $90.

So when you consider a typical Cherry MX board costs around $100, and a set of Imsto caps cost $90, a Cherry MX board with a set of caps that are-not-as-good as Realforce caps cost around $190, which isn't that far from a typical Realforce board.

I completely agree with this. The Realforce/HHKB dyesubs are seriously one of, if not the best caps around. Although I would say that they could be a little thicker, the texture and overall quality is up there.

They're nice, yeah, but compared to other PBT dyesubs they're not that great, arguably even somewhat lacking :/ .

[fuzzybaffy]

Which PBT dye-subs are you talking about, chyros? Because I have a set of PBT dye-subs from Imsto which cost $90, and the Topre ones are much better. The plastic is so soft on the Imstos that my keypullers leave indents on them.

[robbles]

Which PBT dye-subs are you talking about, chyros? Because I have a set of PBT dye-subs from Imsto which cost $90, and the Topre ones are much better. The plastic is so soft on the Imstos that my keypullers leave indents on them.

They are probably referring to thickness. But more thick does not always equal more quality. Insert whatever joke you like here 
The texture, shape and profile are unmatched. The only other caps I've tried that come close are the dye subs that come on Varmilo boards, surprisingly. But I haven't tried too many caps so I'm no authority on the matter.

[LiquidEvilGaming]

55g Realforce and a PBT spacebar. It's all you need. No need to look past anything, unless you want to get into ergonomics- then just get a uTRON ^_^

After going through
Cherry MX, Blues,Greens,Browns,Reds,Clears
Kailh Blues,Browns
Matias Quiet Clicks


Having discovered i loved 55g Topre so much  "That's it then?" was more a sigh of relief from constant board buying.  All i want now is perhaps an Artisan for my ESC key and either a HHKB for travel or a RF in white to polar opposite my black one.  No interest in the Novatouch/Type Heaven.  I'm glad i can finally start selling some of my boards that have been in boxes for months to reinvest the funds lol.

[LXXXIX]

55g RF and HHKB are topre.

Everything else is "topre"

finally something else demik  and I believe in

[LiquidEvilGaming]

While 45g RF was enjoyable and i did type a little faster with it initially...i can't deny i don't just like the feeling of 55G RF i love it.

[demik]

55g RF and HHKB are topre.

Everything else is "topre"

finally something else demik  and I believe in

Hip hop and topre, we don't need anything else bruh.

[Rad]

With that nondetachable cord, it'll even be useful in the future when the robots take over. Just swing it around over your head. Maybe get two.

[knguyen553]

Realforce feels different than the typeheaven. In a good way.

[steelcity]

I have a Ducky 104 45 G Uniform Realforce coming today.  This will be my first Topre board.  Pumped to try it coming from Blue and Browns!  Have they ever made a 103 or 104 55 G Uniform Silent Realforce?  I feel like I would prefer a heavier switch so I'm thinking if I like the Topre switch, a board like that would be my endgame.  With a PBT spacebar of course!

[apolotary]

Been there, after I tried various Topre stuff, that's what I still had to try:

Korean custom with super-smooth linear switches (typing on one!)

68-key layout keyboard with RGB backlighting

60% keyboard with white or blue complicated alps and a metallic case, and maybe RGB backlighting?

[steelcity]

My first impression of the Topre is kind of weird coming from the browns and blues.  I would like to give it a shot for awhile, but man do I hate the bright white keycaps on the Ducky Taiwan version!  Way too bright for me!  Man, I really wish there was a black on black 103 or 104 key 55g silent version out there!  Why are there never the versions we want??   

[quasistellar]

In my opinion, it's Topre all the way for a work keyboard.  They just have the perfect feel for comfortable, quiet typing.  I just wish they weren't so expensive, but at least they feel expensive when you type on them.

[LiquidEvilGaming]

In my opinion, it's Topre all the way for a work keyboard.  They just have the perfect feel for comfortable, quiet typing.  I just wish they weren't so expensive, but at least they feel expensive when you type on them.

Iv'e honestly come to even prefer mine for leisure like gaming or casual surfing...it's just that much more comfortable to type on.  I am keeping one of my MX Brown boards but aside from that i'm selling off the remaining 6-7 boards i have left and going full on Topre.