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Offline AndrewZorn

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Canned air sprayed between keys
« on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 15:03:09 »
It might be a stupid question, but I keep forgetting to ask, so here it is...

I feel like the most common method of quick-cleaning a keyboard is to spray compressed air between the keys.  A lot of junk comes out!  But I can't imagine why this is actually done...

If you think about the way the keycaps are shaped, and the way the switches are elevated off the plate or casing, aren't the internals normally out of harm's way of dust/dirt/food/etc?  When you start blowing it all around, turning the keyboard sideways or upside down when you do (to aid in the stuff falling out) are you not actually giving the junk a chance to get into these usually-unreachable places?

Maybe every time I think about this, it's because I'm imagining a Cherry switch, high and mighty above all the crap down below.  Then air blowing all the stuff around, and it landing on/near the stem.  In the case of a tilted or upside-down board, all the stuff landing on the inside of the keycap... then once righted, down into the switch itself.  

Even rubber domes have design that makes it look like it is impossible for dust to get in under normal conditions.

I'm asking because I don't want dust to get into places I cannot get it out of, but can I really avoid ever doing this, taking off all the keycaps every time?

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 15:07:50 »
That's a good point; I have never really thought about that, but I guess you're right.  I clean my keyboards quite often (with a feather duster), so I lower the chances of stuff getting below the keys.  That said, I don't use a feather duster, so anything that does get below the keycaps stays. People have mentioned that they have had dust get into blue Cherrys preventing them from clicking.


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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 15:24:42 »
I tend to agree, but I am far from any kind of expert on the subject.  But, FWIW, I would personally NOT spray my boards with compressed air.  First of all, sometimes you get liquid out of those cans, and that leaves a residue which I doubt is conductive.  Second, as you point out, you're just blowing dust and crap into places where it shouldn't be.  If it falls in from outside, it is naturally inbetween keyswitches, right?  When you blow it, you are going to blow it into them.

I would think that properly cleaning a keyboard involves pulling all the key caps and doing something more thorough and a lot more delicate and directed than a blast of compressed gasses.
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 16:22:09 »
If you really want a clean keyboard, it's good to remove all the keys and vacuum out the inside. A metal patch for a PCI slot makes a great key puller that does not damage key caps.
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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 16:41:07 »
Quote from: ripster;140675
You guys worry too much.  Take the keyboard, hold it over the garbage can, and shake upside down.  Repeat until the garbage can is filled up.

junk falls into keycaps
(keyboard back on desk)
junk falls onto stem
(you type something)
junk falls into switch

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 16:59:30 »
would still happen

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:23:39 »
My latest philosophy on cleaning keyboards is to not care too much.

Between removed-keycap cleanings I use an acid brush for debris between rows.
It is not very effective but removes some dry particles that don't fall out via shakin'.
The thin metal edges also have a high chance of scratching your keys if you're clumsy.

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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:27:42 »
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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:30:55 »
How about using a shop air compressor to get all the dust out?  That air moves so fast it doesn't have any time go anywhere else but out.
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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:32:15 »
Those do the job well.
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 18:32:39 »
Please take it outside to blow it out with canned air! And don't get any on you.


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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 18:37:36 »
That needs more than a can of compressed air.
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 18:39:30 »
maybe two cans.
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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 18:50:02 »
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That needs more than a can of compressed air.


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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 09 December 2009, 19:03:34 »
This is more of what I was thinking of:

10HP Air compressor.

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 10 December 2009, 05:10:45 »
Shop vac with a good brush. Make sure all the key caps are stowed and their tray tables are in an upright position.
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 10 December 2009, 10:09:45 »
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This is more of what I was thinking of:

10HP Air compressor.

yea, and electrical compressor are good too, got mine as a gift last year, someone in my familly upgraded his and gave me the small one, it has 10 years of hobby usage and still works like new
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 10 December 2009, 19:47:05 »
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 10 December 2009, 20:51:21 »
if it's a keyboard you really couldn't care less about other than discouraging all sorts of critters dining in the all you can eat filth buffet then canned air is a good idea. but in my experience although most of the dust just kinda swirls around, the sticky crud attracts some and gets jammed in the nooks and crannies tighter than before.

if it's really a bother, remove the top half first.
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