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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #200 on: Thu, 07 July 2016, 18:06:52 »
Great! I am in !   :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #201 on: Thu, 07 July 2016, 18:27:26 »
Good news!  The 5V line is up and running, and the power is being correctly distributed to the hub devices.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #202 on: Fri, 08 July 2016, 04:31:27 »
At this point the DOM is the more interesting part of this IC anyway, so keep up the work!

I still think the cases need to be able to "fit together" on both sides using magnets, though. I want the "click" sound when I get the DOM out of the drawer cause it's bill paying time.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #203 on: Fri, 08 July 2016, 05:06:05 »
Keep the dream alive, it's looking great!

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #204 on: Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:12:20 »
At this point the DOM is the more interesting part of this IC anyway, so keep up the work!

I still think the cases need to be able to "fit together" on both sides using magnets, though. I want the "click" sound when I get the DOM out of the drawer cause it's bill paying time.

I actually really like that idea. A nice "thunk" would be hilariously satisfying

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #205 on: Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:35:07 »
Updates:

I finished soldering everything required onto the Dom prototype.  Yay!  I tested it by plugging in the USB micro cable from my computer, and the connector was a little stiff.  I held my finger on the receptacle and gave it some firm pressure, and the thing ripped the pads and some of the GND plane off of the prototype board.  So that is trash now.  I chucked the receptacle with bits of PCB still dangling from it in a moment of frustration, and I think it went somewhere behind my computer.  I can't find it now.  I will send my cat hunting for it.

Needless to say, these projects will now not be using that connector.  If you want an example of the receptacle I used, you can look up the USB Micro B on Sparkfun.  I used the same model.  Steer clear of it.  With a little research on what is available, I think I'm going to revert my design to the semi-depreciated USB Mini B.  The parts I have looked at have much sturdier through-hole pins.  Hopefully this issue won't happen again.

The Rosa layout is complete.  There is currently support for Dell and AEKII ANSI and ISO models, and I have added support for a hacker-esque bottom row, and an infinity split right shift.

And now that it is complete, I think I'm going to scrap the whole thing.  I'm not happy with it.  There are some more features I want to add, but it just isn't happening with the current mega32u2.  As such, I'm going to start over again, forking this project into one which utilizes the mega32u4.  This will have multiple advantages for my design.  I want to add a split spacebar option and full numpad support (similar to the Phantom PCB).  I'm thinking Teensy support would be nice too. 

So anyways, I'm going to go redo the matrix.  I'll be back later hopefully with something even more awesome.

Oh no! Say it ain't so, I really dislike Mini-B connectors. How difficult would it be to desolder a Mini-B connector and substitute a Micro-B? Is it possible to make connector choice optional or would it create too much headache?

In anycase, I am definitely in for one TKL (possibly 2 money permitting), I am undecided on layout, most likely will have to go with Dell ANSI layout for ease of keycap selection. And one firm order of the TK numpad (possibly 2 if you plan to offer manufactured case of some sort, otherwise it's time get to the local B&Q and get some off-cut of wood
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #206 on: Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:45:35 »
Oh no! Say it ain't so, I really dislike Mini-B connectors. How difficult would it be to desolder a Mini-B connector and substitute a Micro-B? Is it possible to make connector choice optional or would it create too much headache?

I chose mini B because it is much sturdier.  My supplier had no versions of through-hole micro USB connectors which would have worked with this board.  I have had some major problems with smd mounted connectors as they tend to rip off of the PCB unless there is a secondary securing mechanism (like a custom molded plastic part to hold it down you would see on your phone or something). 

Sorry you aren't a fan, but it seems more reliable for those of us who transport our boards.  If you intend to replace the part, it is possible, but might require some creative wiring depending on the module you choose.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #207 on: Sat, 09 July 2016, 05:42:59 »
What does through-hole mean in that context? That you can solder cables to points inside the metal connector?

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #208 on: Sat, 09 July 2016, 14:10:59 »
The pins go through the PCB and aren't just soldered to the top.

Will you be able to offer ordering individual plates? Say I buy one PCB, could I get three different plates with it?
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #209 on: Sat, 09 July 2016, 16:22:47 »
What does through-hole mean in that context? That you can solder cables to points inside the metal connector?

Blaise is correct.  The leads and housing connections go through the PCB and are soldered on the back instead of pads connected on the front only.  This is beneficial, because if there is too much strain on the pad soldered version, it can rip the copper off of the board quite easily.  The through hole parts don't have that issue. 

The pins go through the PCB and aren't just soldered to the top.

Will you be able to offer ordering individual plates? Say I buy one PCB, could I get three different plates with it?

You can order as many different plates as you want.  The kits will be sold in the same fashion as the previous GB.  You pick what you want, and I box it up for you.  Just want to try some Matias switches?  You can order just that if you like.  Want to buy 80 complete kits with all of the plate options for each?  Go for it.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #210 on: Sun, 10 July 2016, 05:33:28 »
What does through-hole mean in that context? That you can solder cables to points inside the metal connector?

Blaise is correct.  The leads and housing connections go through the PCB and are soldered on the back instead of pads connected on the front only.  This is beneficial, because if there is too much strain on the pad soldered version, it can rip the copper off of the board quite easily.  The through hole parts don't have that issue. 

The pins go through the PCB and aren't just soldered to the top.

Will you be able to offer ordering individual plates? Say I buy one PCB, could I get three different plates with it?

You can order as many different plates as you want.  The kits will be sold in the same fashion as the previous GB.  You pick what you want, and I box it up for you.  Just want to try some Matias switches?  You can order just that if you like.  Want to buy 80 complete kits with all of the plate options for each?  Go for it.

I think you are referring to these connectors with the pins that secure it to the PCB right? http://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Wurth-Electronics/629105150521/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252byk2Wnkghg7F8rzYbeZ9K0ijhE7azhp8rv2w%3d%3d

Say if I were to source some of these connectors, how difficult is it to replace a Mini-B connector by myself? (I've only done relatively simple soldering jobs with through-hole resistors and diodes, never attempted to do small SMD components). Would you say it's possible with a little bit of practice and steady hands or is it better not to try at all and live with the Mini B connector?
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #211 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 11:11:30 »
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What does through-hole mean in that context? That you can solder cables to points inside the metal connector?

Blaise is correct.  The leads and housing connections go through the PCB and are soldered on the back instead of pads connected on the front only.  This is beneficial, because if there is too much strain on the pad soldered version, it can rip the copper off of the board quite easily.  The through hole parts don't have that issue. 

The pins go through the PCB and aren't just soldered to the top.

Will you be able to offer ordering individual plates? Say I buy one PCB, could I get three different plates with it?

You can order as many different plates as you want.  The kits will be sold in the same fashion as the previous GB.  You pick what you want, and I box it up for you.  Just want to try some Matias switches?  You can order just that if you like.  Want to buy 80 complete kits with all of the plate options for each?  Go for it.
I think you are referring to these connectors with the pins that secure it to the PCB right? http://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Wurth-Electronics/629105150521/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252byk2Wnkghg7F8rzYbeZ9K0ijhE7azhp8rv2w%3d%3d

Say if I were to source some of these connectors, how difficult is it to replace a Mini-B connector by myself? (I've only done relatively simple soldering jobs with through-hole resistors and diodes, never attempted to do small SMD components). Would you say it's possible with a little bit of practice and steady hands or is it better not to try at all and live with the Mini B connector?

Looking at those components, it seems possible to replace it with that part.  The through hole pins on the micro do not match the support through hole pins on the mini.  This means you will need to chop two of them off so the other two fit.  I would recommend soldering small wires to the SMD pins on the micro part, then putting those through the correct holes on the PCB.  Since this will have very few contact points with the board, I recommend use of glue to hold the receptacle in place.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #212 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 16:53:14 »
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What does through-hole mean in that context? That you can solder cables to points inside the metal connector?

Blaise is correct.  The leads and housing connections go through the PCB and are soldered on the back instead of pads connected on the front only.  This is beneficial, because if there is too much strain on the pad soldered version, it can rip the copper off of the board quite easily.  The through hole parts don't have that issue. 

The pins go through the PCB and aren't just soldered to the top.

Will you be able to offer ordering individual plates? Say I buy one PCB, could I get three different plates with it?

You can order as many different plates as you want.  The kits will be sold in the same fashion as the previous GB.  You pick what you want, and I box it up for you.  Just want to try some Matias switches?  You can order just that if you like.  Want to buy 80 complete kits with all of the plate options for each?  Go for it.
I think you are referring to these connectors with the pins that secure it to the PCB right? http://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Wurth-Electronics/629105150521/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252byk2Wnkghg7F8rzYbeZ9K0ijhE7azhp8rv2w%3d%3d

Say if I were to source some of these connectors, how difficult is it to replace a Mini-B connector by myself? (I've only done relatively simple soldering jobs with through-hole resistors and diodes, never attempted to do small SMD components). Would you say it's possible with a little bit of practice and steady hands or is it better not to try at all and live with the Mini B connector?

Looking at those components, it seems possible to replace it with that part.  The through hole pins on the micro do not match the support through hole pins on the mini.  This means you will need to chop two of them off so the other two fit.  I would recommend soldering small wires to the SMD pins on the micro part, then putting those through the correct holes on the PCB.  Since this will have very few contact points with the board, I recommend use of glue to hold the receptacle in place.

I think I know what you mean now, some two-part epoxy should do it, it's good enough for the monolithic rudder on an A320, gotta be good enough for an USB port, that's how it works, right?

Do you know if there are any micro-B ports that have similar hole patterns to the mini B port you will be using? Or if possible could you share the part number for the mini port you will be using so I can try and find something with similar pin sizing?

Thanks for being patient with me, I am an engineer but my specialisation is not in electronics (very handy with a sledgehammer though!)
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #213 on: Mon, 11 July 2016, 18:13:22 »
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What does through-hole mean in that context? That you can solder cables to points inside the metal connector?

Blaise is correct.  The leads and housing connections go through the PCB and are soldered on the back instead of pads connected on the front only.  This is beneficial, because if there is too much strain on the pad soldered version, it can rip the copper off of the board quite easily.  The through hole parts don't have that issue. 

The pins go through the PCB and aren't just soldered to the top.

Will you be able to offer ordering individual plates? Say I buy one PCB, could I get three different plates with it?

You can order as many different plates as you want.  The kits will be sold in the same fashion as the previous GB.  You pick what you want, and I box it up for you.  Just want to try some Matias switches?  You can order just that if you like.  Want to buy 80 complete kits with all of the plate options for each?  Go for it.
I think you are referring to these connectors with the pins that secure it to the PCB right? http://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Wurth-Electronics/629105150521/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMulM8LPOQ%252byk2Wnkghg7F8rzYbeZ9K0ijhE7azhp8rv2w%3d%3d

Say if I were to source some of these connectors, how difficult is it to replace a Mini-B connector by myself? (I've only done relatively simple soldering jobs with through-hole resistors and diodes, never attempted to do small SMD components). Would you say it's possible with a little bit of practice and steady hands or is it better not to try at all and live with the Mini B connector?

Looking at those components, it seems possible to replace it with that part.  The through hole pins on the micro do not match the support through hole pins on the mini.  This means you will need to chop two of them off so the other two fit.  I would recommend soldering small wires to the SMD pins on the micro part, then putting those through the correct holes on the PCB.  Since this will have very few contact points with the board, I recommend use of glue to hold the receptacle in place.

I think I know what you mean now, some two-part epoxy should do it, it's good enough for the monolithic rudder on an A320, gotta be good enough for an USB port, that's how it works, right?

Do you know if there are any micro-B ports that have similar hole patterns to the mini B port you will be using? Or if possible could you share the part number for the mini port you will be using so I can try and find something with similar pin sizing?

Thanks for being patient with me, I am an engineer but my specialisation is not in electronics (very handy with a sledgehammer though!)

Sure.  The part I'm using is the Omron XM7D-0512.  I have not seen anything which uses compatible pinouts while I was shopping for a good (inexpensive) part.

No worries.  I'm a chemist, not an engineer.  I'm flying by the seat of my pants here.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #214 on: Tue, 12 July 2016, 12:57:52 »

Sure.  The part I'm using is the Omron XM7D-0512.  I have not seen anything which uses compatible pinouts while I was shopping for a good (inexpensive) part.

No worries.  I'm a chemist, not an engineer.  I'm flying by the seat of my pants here.

Ok I just done perusing some datasheets, it seems like this is the only one I found one that might have a chance of even fitting: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1912469.pdf

The mechanical retention pins spacings looks to be about the right size (it's 0.15mm off the pin pitch of the Omron part, I'm not sure it that will cause mechanical issues with the slots on the PCB, I'm hoping not). The contact pins looks to be surface mount, and the connector itself is shorter than the Mini B part, so I'm guessing I can use simple wires to bridge each contact pin to its corresponding hole on the PCB, is that a correct assumption?

My only concern is that the pin pitch is tiny (apprently 0.6mm) so I'm not sure how well it's going to work with hand-soldering. Do you know how the two retention arms should be mechanically restrained to the PCB? Do you just stick them through the hole on the PCB and fill it with solder? I'm a bit unclear on that but I assume that's what's supposed to happen.
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #215 on: Tue, 12 July 2016, 22:23:34 »

Sure.  The part I'm using is the Omron XM7D-0512.  I have not seen anything which uses compatible pinouts while I was shopping for a good (inexpensive) part.

No worries.  I'm a chemist, not an engineer.  I'm flying by the seat of my pants here.

Ok I just done perusing some datasheets, it seems like this is the only one I found one that might have a chance of even fitting: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1912469.pdf

The mechanical retention pins spacings looks to be about the right size (it's 0.15mm off the pin pitch of the Omron part, I'm not sure it that will cause mechanical issues with the slots on the PCB, I'm hoping not). The contact pins looks to be surface mount, and the connector itself is shorter than the Mini B part, so I'm guessing I can use simple wires to bridge each contact pin to its corresponding hole on the PCB, is that a correct assumption?

My only concern is that the pin pitch is tiny (apprently 0.6mm) so I'm not sure how well it's going to work with hand-soldering. Do you know how the two retention arms should be mechanically restrained to the PCB? Do you just stick them through the hole on the PCB and fill it with solder? I'm a bit unclear on that but I assume that's what's supposed to happen.

Yep, just stick 'em and solder 'em. 

The pins might need some encouragement with the tweezers to fit the holes on the PCB, but it should work.  The pins on the Omron part are staggered instead of in a straight line, so this would be necessary to correct for that.  Buy more than one in case it takes some trial and error to get right.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #216 on: Wed, 13 July 2016, 10:40:33 »
I've been reading through this IC for a few days and have been learning quite a bit! I'm really impressed by the PCB design and am interested to say the least!




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« Reply #217 on: Wed, 13 July 2016, 10:46:07 »
will it be compatible with Pokemon GO ?
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #218 on: Wed, 13 July 2016, 10:47:09 »
Excellent question. :D

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« Reply #219 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 12:08:52 »

Sure.  The part I'm using is the Omron XM7D-0512.  I have not seen anything which uses compatible pinouts while I was shopping for a good (inexpensive) part.

No worries.  I'm a chemist, not an engineer.  I'm flying by the seat of my pants here.

Ok I just done perusing some datasheets, it seems like this is the only one I found one that might have a chance of even fitting: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1912469.pdf

The mechanical retention pins spacings looks to be about the right size (it's 0.15mm off the pin pitch of the Omron part, I'm not sure it that will cause mechanical issues with the slots on the PCB, I'm hoping not). The contact pins looks to be surface mount, and the connector itself is shorter than the Mini B part, so I'm guessing I can use simple wires to bridge each contact pin to its corresponding hole on the PCB, is that a correct assumption?

My only concern is that the pin pitch is tiny (apprently 0.6mm) so I'm not sure how well it's going to work with hand-soldering. Do you know how the two retention arms should be mechanically restrained to the PCB? Do you just stick them through the hole on the PCB and fill it with solder? I'm a bit unclear on that but I assume that's what's supposed to happen.

Yep, just stick 'em and solder 'em. 

The pins might need some encouragement with the tweezers to fit the holes on the PCB, but it should work.  The pins on the Omron part are staggered instead of in a straight line, so this would be necessary to correct for that.  Buy more than one in case it takes some trial and error to get right.

I see, trial and error is how I learn  :thumb:

I'll be in for a TKL set and a numpad, along with plates.

What are the options looking like in terms of cases? Are you able to find a machining shop who can do cases or do you plan to make generic CAD files available for people to sort their own cases? For the TKL board there's one or two options available I think (TEX case which is compatible with Costar OEM boards like the Cooler Master QFR, Filco or Phantom PCB, or the A87 layout of the Korean customs. What do you think?
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #220 on: Fri, 22 July 2016, 17:27:20 »
This hasn't been updated lately, so here is one.  There is nothing new to report.  I haven't been able to work on anything for this since my last post.  The TK is currently sitting to my left on the work desk waiting to be tested.  I need to run the osc over it to figure out where the data are getting clogged up.  The power all works fine, but the D+/- line is not communicating.  There are two small problems.

1. The oscilloscope is downstairs in my boss' office and locked tight.
2. I don't know how to use it.

I asked him to give me a tutorial on analyzing things with it, but he is very busy.  I also expect that he will hold this over my head until he gets more data out of me.  He's a bit of a douche like that.  Anyway, this project is stalled, but not dead.  I'll keep necro'ing it even if there is nothing to report so it stays on everyone's radar.

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« Reply #221 on: Fri, 22 July 2016, 18:28:20 »
Thanks for the update! Keep us in the loop  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #222 on: Thu, 28 July 2016, 22:39:00 »
Awesome project!!
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #223 on: Sat, 30 July 2016, 04:20:58 »
I heard someone say SMK compatibility?in the alps appreciation thread,  is it true?

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« Reply #224 on: Sat, 30 July 2016, 06:03:32 »
This is beyond awesome, I would definitely join the GB phase
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #225 on: Sat, 30 July 2016, 17:10:30 »
SMK compatibility is true.  Of course, I still need to find time to work on this.  The encouraging words are nice though.  It helps maintain what momentum I have.

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« Reply #226 on: Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:36:28 »
In for a TKL pcb when it goes live, thanks again Blue!

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« Reply #228 on: Thu, 04 August 2016, 01:44:56 »
SMK compatibility is true.  Of course, I still need to find time to work on this.  The encouraging words are nice though.  It helps maintain what momentum I have.

I very much would like to see a TKL pcb with SMK support.  :D  Keep it up!

I very very much would like to see a TKL pcb with SMK support! =)

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« Reply #229 on: Fri, 05 August 2016, 17:50:30 »
So I finally found some time today to mess with the TK and oscilloscope.  My findings so far: its broked.  Everything seems to be noise on the signal lines.  I am of the opinion that there may be something fundamentally wrong with my design.  I'm not done testing it yet, but I may have to make some changes.

My question to all of you:  would you still be interested in the TK without the USB hub feature?  I think that might be the real weak link here. 

EDIT: My advisor took a glance at the TI chip I'm using.  He suggested that since there is 3.3V power and a good oscillator signal, then there must be something wrong with it.  I showed him my "dmesg | grep usb" output, and he comment that the fact that there was no hub being listed when I plugged it in could support his theory.  So I haven't thrown in the towel yet. 
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #230 on: Fri, 05 August 2016, 19:06:40 »
My question to all of you:  would you still be interested in the TK without the USB hub feature?
I don't particularly care about having a hub.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #231 on: Fri, 05 August 2016, 19:13:31 »
So I finally found some time today to mess with the TK and oscilloscope.  My findings so far: its broked.  Everything seems to be noise on the signal lines.  I am of the opinion that there may be something fundamentally wrong with my design.  I'm not done testing it yet, but I may have to make some changes.

My question to all of you:  would you still be interested in the TK without the USB hub feature?  I think that might be the real weak link here. 

EDIT: My advisor took a glance at the TI chip I'm using.  He suggested that since there is 3.3V power and a good oscillator signal, then there must be something wrong with it.  I showed him my "dmesg | grep usb" output, and he comment that the fact that there was no hub being listed when I plugged it in could support his theory.  So I haven't thrown in the towel yet.

I'm not fussed about a hub either, if I can mash on the keys and make some numbers appear on the screen, I'll be a happy camper. Anything else is superfluous!  ;D
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #232 on: Sat, 06 August 2016, 05:25:02 »
Support for Alps and SMK is way more important than a hub.
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #233 on: Mon, 08 August 2016, 18:57:59 »
my body is ready

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #234 on: Tue, 09 August 2016, 23:08:54 »
Why are you so cool, BlueNalgene?

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #235 on: Wed, 10 August 2016, 19:32:13 »
Changes made to the DOM and new PCBs were ordered from OSH Park.  There are two less features and one extra feature.  It's a secret. ;D

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #236 on: Wed, 10 August 2016, 21:10:43 »
What is hype may never die

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #237 on: Thu, 11 August 2016, 03:58:33 »
Damnit, Blue and his secrets... :)

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #238 on: Mon, 15 August 2016, 11:50:00 »
This is exactly what I need in my life. Can't wait for it to happen! I need a home for my blue alps

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #239 on: Tue, 23 August 2016, 22:41:55 »
Any news on this? I need a Numpad :)
oh yeah I saw that crazy **** if that doesn't win I'm deleting my account

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #240 on: Wed, 24 August 2016, 12:25:11 »
The latest prototype came in the mail yesterday from OSHpark.  I haven't finished it yet.  Not much news to report.  I am pretty busy at the moment, so we will see where things go from here.  Hopefully I will be able to look at it this week.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #241 on: Wed, 24 August 2016, 12:31:00 »
I think we need to look at this as a "walk slowly" IC :D
GBs take time, and this isn't even a GB yet!

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #242 on: Wed, 24 August 2016, 23:05:24 »
Hype for the SGI layout.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #243 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 14:16:55 »
I just got a job offer so three for me if this gets to GB. :P
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #244 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 14:52:06 »
Someone get me a job offer, and I'll get six ;)

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #245 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 15:06:10 »
Someone get me a job offer, and I'll get six ;)

I need a foot massage, I'll pay you tree fiddy dollars  :cool:
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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #246 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 15:06:52 »
No no, a HUMAN job!

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #247 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 21:55:56 »
Support for Alps and SMK is way more important than a hub.

Think the trick is keep it SIMPLE hence you reduce possible failures when you go all complex and start bundling in extras into any keyboard design.

Make sure the keyboard is bullet proof and ready to operate under any circumstance otherwise it would be another design that failed to deliver anything to it's customers.  Always choose a simple, basic keyboard design that keeps on working whether it's 0C or 58C.

Looking forward to this and I am NOT even an ALPs fanboy here.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #248 on: Thu, 25 August 2016, 21:59:18 »
I think we need to look at this as a "walk slowly" IC :D
GBs take time, and this isn't even a GB yet!

It's a scratch built design, utilizing ALPs switches in a variety of different layouts.

Even for GON or LZ it would be a difficult task to achieve when everything in this world is based upon the (in)famous CherryMX technology.

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Re: [IC] Alps Party Massif: TK + TKL
« Reply #249 on: Mon, 12 September 2016, 21:34:59 »
I would be interested in a couple of tkl pcbs and plates to house my SGI granite boards.
thanks very much.