Author Topic: [GB] Sentraq TK78 Keyboard Kit (Closing/Troubleshooting) (Read 126038 times)

tj_gee · « **Reply #300 on:** Wed, 21 September 2016, 10:42:46 »

That's what I thought. He sent it to me late at night so I assumed he meant plastic and was just tired.

kawasaki161 · « **Reply #301 on:** Wed, 21 September 2016, 12:07:40 »

If your case is machined like mine I'd recommend using real washers on the right standoffs (so the PCB does is not bent by default) and some foam on all screw holes on both sides of the PCB since the standoffs are not angled like the PCB. I used some foam sheet from an arts supplier and made my own foam washers.

For the middle and left screws the combination would be Screwhead -> Foam -> PCB -> Foam -> Case
For the right screws it would be Screwhead -> Foam -> PCB -> Foam -> Washer -> Case

IneffableTao · « **Reply #302 on:** Wed, 21 September 2016, 16:07:09 »

I did the assembly for tj_gee so I might as well chime in here and bypass the middleman.

Quote from: mogo on Wed, 21 September 2016, 10:36:39

Quote from: tj_gee on Mon, 19 September 2016, 21:18:34
Find longer metal screws and use metal washers between the screw head and the plate to secure the plate to the case without really touching the pcb
You mean plastic/paper washers? Wouldn't a metal washer just short the circuit again?

What I meant with my last of 4 possible solutions (quoted above) was something like this, expertly drawn, cross section: http://i.imgur.com/X1ufizC.jpg
There would not be any metal touching the top of the PCB which seems to be where the short is occurring. I'm not positive there's enough space between the switches on top of the plate to squeeze a washer anyway, so this is all mostly moot, but of the 4 options it keeps the metal the farthest away from the exposed connection.

I'll have to see if the standoffs suffer the same issue as described by kawasaki161 but I don't think they do; I'll validate tonight.

FWIW I have conferred with my EE cousin and he said nail polish, super glue or a conformal coating (most often used for waterproofing PCBs) can be used to cover the exposed trace and then a non-conductive washer will suffice. I'll probably go with the superglue as I have several varieties on hand already, and then either foam or paper washers on top of that (and maybe under the PCB as well, if necessary)

Thanks all for the feedback and suggestions.

skullydazed · « **Reply #303 on:** Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:59:33 »

On the screw holes, my recommendation would be to use longer screws and secure the plate to the case that way. If you can't do that for some reason nylon or rubber washer will work as well. I would prefer those over paper washers as they're less likely to tear and expose copper underneath, won't scrape off silkscreen, and will spread the load better.

breitling · « **Reply #304 on:** Sun, 25 September 2016, 09:52:27 »

what is the eta for the replacements?

doodersbrother · « **Reply #305 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 19:56:49 »

Hey guys, 5 PCB's are being made to make sure everything works and once we confirm that we will order the rest of the PCB's. I'm not certain on how long this will take, especially because of the week long holiday in China starting Oct 1.

I'll post another update when I know more.

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #306 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 20:37:20 »

Thanks for the update dooders. Hopefully this batch comes out better than the last

doodersbrother · « **Reply #307 on:** Fri, 07 October 2016, 09:47:40 »

The first 5 PCBs are supposed to be finished around the 10th, as soon as they are tested we'll get the rest ordered!

SmithTheNinja · « **Reply #308 on:** Fri, 07 October 2016, 22:08:38 »

Thanks for the update Dooders, glad to hear things are moving along!

doodersbrother · « **Reply #309 on:** Tue, 11 October 2016, 17:30:10 »

Test PCBs are finished and are currently being tested!

[GB] Sentraq TK78 Keyboard Kit (Closing/Troubleshooting)

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #310 on:** Tue, 11 October 2016, 18:50:00 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Tue, 11 October 2016, 17:30:10

Test PCBs are finished and are currently being tested!
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Great news! Too bad they're green, the white looked nicer.

deductivemonkee · « **Reply #311 on:** Tue, 11 October 2016, 20:08:55 »

Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 11 October 2016, 18:50:00

Quote from: doodersbrother on Tue, 11 October 2016, 17:30:10
Test PCBs are finished and are currently being tested!
(Attachment Link)

Great news! Too bad they're green, the white looked nicer.

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Test PCBs

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #312 on:** Tue, 11 October 2016, 20:34:39 »

Quote from: deductivemonkee on Tue, 11 October 2016, 20:08:55

Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 11 October 2016, 18:50:00
Quote from: doodersbrother on Tue, 11 October 2016, 17:30:10
Test PCBs are finished and are currently being tested!
(Attachment Link)

Great news! Too bad they're green, the white looked nicer.

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Test PCBs

Good point =|

breitling · « **Reply #313 on:** Tue, 11 October 2016, 22:10:30 »

i kinda like the green... dont have many green pcbs its kind retro.

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #314 on:** Tue, 11 October 2016, 22:22:49 »

Quote from: breitling on Tue, 11 October 2016, 22:10:30

i kinda like the green... dont have many green pcbs its kind retro.

Retro indeed

kawasaki161 · « **Reply #315 on:** Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:51:58 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Tue, 11 October 2016, 17:30:10

Test PCBs are finished and are currently being tested!
(Attachment Link)

Don't forget the mounting hole between the (referring to standard 1,25 and 6,25 layout) spacebar and right alt key again

I can't spot it on that prototype.

doodersbrother · « **Reply #316 on:** Wed, 12 October 2016, 22:49:50 »

Guys, only this PCB is green. The actual replacements will be white. Sorry for the confusion.

Brammm87 · « **Reply #317 on:** Tue, 18 October 2016, 06:01:24 »

Any updates on this?

SmithTheNinja · « **Reply #318 on:** Sat, 22 October 2016, 13:55:39 »

What's the word on testing Dooders? Did the green sample boards pass?

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #319 on:** Sat, 22 October 2016, 16:38:58 »

Quote from: SmithTheNinja on Sat, 22 October 2016, 13:55:39

What's the word on testing Dooders? Did the green sample boards pass?

Interested to know the same. This pile of SIP'd switches has been sitting on my desk forever!

scramm · « **Reply #320 on:** Sun, 23 October 2016, 08:43:53 »

Speaking of piles of switches, since my 60% from massdrop had to go back, i have 70 zealios (78g) sitting here. Anyone have a few they could sell me so i can fill this board with them?

IneffableTao · « **Reply #321 on:** Sun, 23 October 2016, 09:59:26 »

Quote from: scramm on Sun, 23 October 2016, 08:43:53

Speaking of piles of switches, since my 60% from massdrop had to go back, i have 70 zealios (78g) sitting here. Anyone have a few they could sell me so i can fill this board with them?

PM'd

doodersbrother · « **Reply #322 on:** Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:07:20 »

Hey guys, another update. The sample PCB tested well and they are making 20 pcs right now. The PCB's may actually be green instead of white as previously mentioned. As soon as they're finished they'll get shipped to me where I'll inspect and test each one and ship out to you guys.

Thanks again for being so patient with this...

SmithTheNinja · « **Reply #323 on:** Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:17:59 »

Thanks for the update dooders, I was starting to get worried

I for one embrace the possibility of green, its not like it will be visible much behind the plate though.

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #324 on:** Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:21:43 »

Hey dooders. Appreciate the update. Can't wait to get a working PCB in hand

breitling · « **Reply #325 on:** Thu, 24 November 2016, 01:08:18 »

any chance these will make it before Christmas?

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #326 on:** Mon, 28 November 2016, 20:53:56 »

Quote from: breitling on Thu, 24 November 2016, 01:08:18

any chance these will make it before Christmas?

Interested to know the same. What's the timeline looking like?

doodersbrother · « **Reply #327 on:** Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:03:20 »

Okay guys, I received the new PCB's. I'll test them further, but so far it's looking promising. Once I'm comfortable that they work well, I'll start shipping as soon as next week.

SmithTheNinja · « **Reply #328 on:** Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:50:55 »

Quote from: breitling on Thu, 24 November 2016, 01:08:18

any chance these will make it before Christmas?

Quote from: doodersbrother on Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:03:20

Okay guys, I received the new PCB's. I'll test them further, but so far it's looking promising. Once I'm comfortable that they work well, I'll start shipping as soon as next week.

♫♪♫
It's begging to sound a lot like maybe,
Thanks to doodersbro;
Take a look in this thread, it's glistening once again
With LEDs and silver traces aglow.

It's begging to sound a lot like maybe,
Boards in ev'ry store,
But the prettiest sight to see is the keeb that will be
On your own front door!
♫♪♫

Thanks for the update Dooders, put me in the holiday spirit!

doodersbrother · « **Reply #329 on:** Thu, 01 December 2016, 01:38:55 »

Quote from: SmithTheNinja on Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:50:55

Quote from: breitling on Thu, 24 November 2016, 01:08:18
any chance these will make it before Christmas?

Quote from: doodersbrother on Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:03:20
Okay guys, I received the new PCB's. I'll test them further, but so far it's looking promising. Once I'm comfortable that they work well, I'll start shipping as soon as next week.

♫♪♫
It's begging to sound a lot like maybe,
Thanks to doodersbro;
Take a look in this thread, it's glistening once again
With LEDs and silver traces aglow.

It's begging to sound a lot like maybe,
Boards in ev'ry store,
But the prettiest sight to see is the keeb that will be
On your own front door!
♫♪♫

Thanks for the update Dooders, put me in the holiday spirit!

I'm sorry that you guys have had to wait this long in the first place :/

SmithTheNinja · « **Reply #330 on:** Thu, 01 December 2016, 01:50:39 »

Don't worry about it bud, a lot of this stuff was outside your control and you've gone well above and beyond to make sure everyone still gets a fully functional board. You're a champ in my book. <3

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #331 on:** Thu, 01 December 2016, 08:36:28 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:03:20

Okay guys, I received the new PCB's. I'll test them further, but so far it's looking promising. Once I'm comfortable that they work well, I'll start shipping as soon as next week.

Thanks dooders. Looking forward to it =D

doodersbrother · « **Reply #332 on:** Sun, 04 December 2016, 20:40:47 »

Kits will start shipping out in order this week.

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #333 on:** Sun, 04 December 2016, 21:11:33 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 04 December 2016, 20:40:47

Kits will start shipping out in order this week.

alexjd99 · « **Reply #334 on:** Sun, 04 December 2016, 22:55:28 »

Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 04 December 2016, 21:11:33

Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 04 December 2016, 20:40:47
Kits will start shipping out in order this week.

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I always love a good Office gif

Brammm87 · « **Reply #335 on:** Mon, 05 December 2016, 07:09:32 »

Oh baby! Been itching to get my solder iron out again

And then I just realized I'm still at my parents (in between moves) and all my keyboard stuff is somewhere in a box in storage... Roll on January!

doodersbrother · « **Reply #336 on:** Wed, 14 December 2016, 18:13:35 »

Ok so breitling's was shipped last week, tracking should've been emailed.

The following just need replacement PCB's, correct? If so, I'll get those out tomorrow.
TJ_Gee
alexjd99
UsualSuspectXXX
SmithTheNinja

The rest will ship very soon after, and those who needed assembly will take about a week.

tj_gee · « **Reply #337 on:** Wed, 14 December 2016, 18:19:15 »

Mine can go last.

My builder hacked mine together in an ingenious way so that it works, but I would like a replacement in case something else pops up with it.

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #338 on:** Wed, 14 December 2016, 22:32:24 »

Great. Thanks for the update dooders!

Brammm87 · « **Reply #339 on:** Thu, 15 December 2016, 02:23:25 »

Awesome news! Looking forward to finally building this

skuko · « **Reply #340 on:** Thu, 15 December 2016, 04:58:53 »

thank you for the update dooders

breitling · « **Reply #341 on:** Thu, 15 December 2016, 10:11:35 »

Sweet!!!! Didn't see an email with tracking but am happy to hear its on its way!!!!!

alexjd99 · « **Reply #342 on:** Thu, 15 December 2016, 18:13:52 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Wed, 14 December 2016, 18:13:35

Ok so breitling's was shipped last week, tracking should've been emailed.

The following just need replacement PCB's, correct? If so, I'll get those out tomorrow.
TJ_Gee
alexjd99
UsualSuspectXXX
SmithTheNinja

The rest will ship very soon after, and those who needed assembly will take about a week.

I do need a replacement PCB.

Thanks so much for the update!

SmithTheNinja · « **Reply #343 on:** Thu, 15 December 2016, 21:05:17 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Wed, 14 December 2016, 18:13:35

Ok so breitling's was shipped last week, tracking should've been emailed.

The following just need replacement PCB's, correct? If so, I'll get those out tomorrow.
TJ_Gee
alexjd99
UsualSuspectXXX
SmithTheNinja

The rest will ship very soon after, and those who needed assembly will take about a week.

Yup just the PCB for me!

breitling · « **Reply #344 on:** Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:25:45 »

Arrived!

Looks pretty sweet. Lighter than most of my aluminum boards.

Are these PCBs good to go? Or should I be testing it? I guess I'll test it anyway but kind of lazy... lol

kawasaki161 · « **Reply #345 on:** Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:29:22 »

Quote from: breitling on Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:25:45

Arrived!

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Looks pretty sweet. Lighter than most of my aluminum boards.

Are these PCBs good to go? Or should I be testing it? I guess I'll test it anyway but kind of lazy... lol

Did he forget the mounting hole in the lower middle again? :)) :)) :))

phinix · « **Reply #346 on:** Fri, 16 December 2016, 16:20:21 »

Is there ISO layout too?

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #347 on:** Fri, 16 December 2016, 17:35:05 »

Quote from: kawasaki161 on Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:29:22

Quote from: breitling on Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:25:45
Arrived!

Show Image

Looks pretty sweet. Lighter than most of my aluminum boards.

Are these PCBs good to go? Or should I be testing it? I guess I'll test it anyway but kind of lazy... lol

Did he forget the mounting hole in the lower middle again? :)) :)) :))

Appears that way

Brammm87 · « **Reply #348 on:** Mon, 19 December 2016, 06:47:03 »

Dooders, you might have an old address of mine, what's the best way to reach you to update that?

scramm · « **Reply #349 on:** Mon, 19 December 2016, 07:07:30 »

Quote from: Brammm87 on Mon, 19 December 2016, 06:47:03

Dooders, you might have an old address of mine, what's the best way to reach you to update that?

I just sent a pm for the same reason, I'll be moving before these ship out

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Author Topic: [GB] Sentraq TK78 Keyboard Kit (Closing/Troubleshooting) (Read 126038 times)