Author Topic: g80-3000: Replacing some keys with inscribable keys? (Read 6536 times)

ibu · « **on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 14:32:14 »

Cherry offers some keyboards (with MX Switches) with inscribable keys, e.g. the G80-8113
http://www.cherry.de/english/products/cable_keyboards_MultiBoard_G80-8113.htm

My question:
Is it possible to replace e.g. the ten keys (keypad) of a g80-3000 with inscribable keys of the g80-8113?

My intention:
I don't need the the numbers of the keypad, but I would enjoy to use the keypad as a multimedia interface - with smart and lovely printed labels.

Thanks.

ch_123 · « **Reply #1 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 14:33:26 »

Yeah, there's no reason why you can't use them on a G80-3000.

ibu · « **Reply #2 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 14:48:15 »

Quote from: ch_123;144268

Yeah, there's no reason why you can't use them on a G80-3000.

Perfect.
Thanks

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 16:42:13 »

I did it with my G80-3000
Methinks it turned out pretty spiffy.

ibu · « **Reply #4 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 17:02:48 »

Quote from: PRISONER 24601;144302

I did it with my G80-3000
Methinks it turned out pretty spiffy.

I miss a customizable cherry mx keyboard.

The width of a 87 tenkeyless.
The depth of a SPOS G86-61400
http://www.cherry.de/deutsch/produkte/kabeltastaturen_SPOS_G86-61400.htm

Of course - with a programmable firmware like the miniguru
http://www.guru-board.com/english/layout_en

What a nice project! My best wishes for the Minigurus.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #5 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 17:04:18 »

There's always the most customizable keyboard out there: The Model M! Get some clear key-caps and you're set.

ibu · « **Reply #6 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 17:14:01 »

Quote from: microsoft windows;144311

There's always the most customizable keyboard out there: The Model M! Get some clear key-caps and you're set.

You think of an IBM M?
Please remember my "mx" in the wish.

ch_123 · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 17:23:39 »

Quote from: ibu;144316

You think of an IBM M?
Please remember my "mx" in the wish.

Oh, he'll always reply to a thread telling people to get a Model M. You'll get used to it.

ibu · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 17:37:50 »

Quote from: ch_123;144319

Oh, he'll always reply to a thread telling people to get a Model M. You'll get used to it.

Well, than the information, that there are inscribable keys for the IBM M, is new to me.
As well, that there are IBM Ms available with extra keys.

(If I sometimes have the chance to buy an IBM M4-1 with meta keys next to CTRL, I will get one. )

ch_123 · « **Reply #9 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 17:53:10 »

I'm afraid that there are no M4-1s with meta keys. Indeed, the Unicomps are the only Model M style keyboards with meta keys.

As for the clear caps, see -

Link

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #10 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 18:01:45 »

I got my Northgate in the mail today and from the looks of it, it's pretty darn customizable.

Then again, the Guru will be 100x better.

ibu · « **Reply #11 on:** Mon, 21 December 2009, 18:07:59 »

@ch_123

Quote

Keyboards: IBM Model F (AT), IBM Model M13 (Black) Filco Tenkeyless (Otaku, Blue Cherry), IBM M4-1. (Pics here)

I see, I had a wrong idea of the M4-1.
Yours has a ten key area, that "M4-1" does not.

ibu · « **Reply #12 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 02:02:36 »

Quote from: ch_123;144332

I'm afraid that there are no M4-1s with meta keys. Indeed, the Unicomps are the only Model M style keyboards with meta keys.

Are there Unicomps 87 tenkeyless with meta keys?

keyb_gr · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 10:53:27 »

Quote from: ibu;148357

Are there Unicomps 87 tenkeyless with meta keys?

With or without, plenty of people would probably be happy if there were any... Currently it seems to be about as promising as waiting for Godot.

ch_123 · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 10:59:14 »

God forbid that Unicomp go to the effort of producing a product that would sell like hotcakes... and your man on eBay with his constant stream of NIB Minis selling for $100+ a pop is testament to that fact.

itlnstln · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 11:09:45 »

Quote from: ch_123;148472

God forbid that Unicomp go to the effort of producing a product that would sell like hotcakes... and your man on eBay with his constant stream of NIB Minis selling for $100+ a pop is testament to that fact.

No to say they wouldn't still sell like hotcakes, but Unicomp continues to potentially lose customers has long as those Space Savers keep popping up.

ibu · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 13:35:04 »

OK, when there's no 87 tenkeyless, I have to take one with a tenkey.

Is it true, that the only keyboards with bucklings springs and meta keys and german layout are the two following (apart from variants with balls, sticks, POS extra keys etc.)?:

* Unicomp SpaceSaver 104/105

* Unicomp Customizer 104/105

Does anyone know a shop in Europe which sells these Unicomps?

On the website of Unicomp it is said:
"The non-US English models (105) feature a smaller left shift button, an additional button just to the right of the left shift button and a vertical enter button."
Does anyone of you has a picture of a "Space Saver" with german layout.
I like to know how the layout, specially the enter key, looks.

Edit:

Chuck of Unicomp told me:

Shipping to Germany is 45$.
If you need to see the buttons layout for a German layout look at the
102/103 keyboard. This will show you the smaller left shift, the additional
button and the vertical enter as stated below. To make the 105 (which has
Windows buttons) there are 3 extra buttons on the bottom row.

itlnstln · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 13:51:52 »

I could be wrong, but I think you have to buy directly from Unicomp. They don't sell via third parties (typically; Fry's or J&R in the US was selling them for a short time, IIRC). That is, unless you buy second hand from someone in Europe.

keyb_gr · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 16:11:23 »

Quote from: ibu;148524

Does anyone know a shop in Europe which sells these Unicomps?

As mentioned, they only sell directly so far.

You know, becoming a distributor for Unicomp and other premium keyboards has been a long-time dream of mine. Now unfortunately I'm an engineer and not a sales / business guy (and hardly the classic entrepreneur type), so it would be a non-trivial exercise at the least.

Xuan · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 06 January 2010, 22:56:58 »

Quote from: ibu;144328

Well, than the information, that there are inscribable keys for the IBM M, is new to me.
As well, that there are IBM Ms available with extra keys.

(If I sometimes have the chance to buy an IBM M4-1 with meta keys next to CTRL, I will get one. )

meta key is usually alt

ibu · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 07 January 2010, 00:24:53 »

Quote from: Xuan;148726

meta key is usually alt

OK. I meant "Windows Key". Is there any other correct and distinct term for it, which is not as absurd?

ibu · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 07 January 2010, 00:28:10 »

Quote from: ripster;148723

Here's the German Layout. I stumbled across it in a archived pdf.

Thanks, ripster.
But that is a layout without windows key. The unicomp space saver 104/105 layout should have that keys.

HaaTa · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 07 January 2010, 00:32:25 »

Quote from: ibu;148743

OK. I meant "Windows Key". Is there any other correct and distinct term for it, which is not as absurd?

Well in Linux (configurations mostly), the "Windows Key" is referred to as Mod4.

ibu · « **Reply #23 on:** Thu, 07 January 2010, 00:46:34 »

Quote from: ripster;148747

The Unicomp Windows key will be between ALT and CTRL on their modern keyboards.

Thanks.
I asked Unicomp for a picture meanwhile. I will post it, when it will arrive.

Quote from: ripster;148747

You could call it the home key.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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bsvP585hUO2Y6 · « **Reply #24 on:** Thu, 07 January 2010, 03:36:10 »

ibu wrote on 5972 September 1993:

> OK. I meant "Windows Key". Is there any other correct and distinct
> term for it, which is not as absurd?

Emacs calls it super-key, probably due to its lisp heritage. You can
see a real one between the alt/meta and hyper modifiers on the space
cadet:

http://liwen.name/images/blog/space_cadet_keyboard.jpg

ak_nala · « **Reply #25 on:** Thu, 07 January 2010, 04:18:54 »

You could call it what it's been called all along on the Mac side of the Force - the Command Key.

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