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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 24 May 2016, 06:04:03 »
As you said your taste tend to change often. I am the same way, so it's possible that one day you will want to use your HHKB again and it would suck if you traded it.

I understand your dilemma, but let's not be rash. This is a life we are talking about here.

One reason why I keep so many keyboards around.
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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 24 May 2016, 06:07:03 »
As you said your taste tend to change often. I am the same way, so it's possible that one day you will want to use your HHKB again and it would suck if you traded it.

I understand your dilemma, but let's not be rash. This is a life we are talking about here.

One reason why I keep so many keyboards around.

I concur and my 60% collection is growing rapidly as such,however should i ever regret it down the line at all it gives me a solid excuse to go for the BT model :p
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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 25 May 2016, 14:29:10 »
Ultimately ended up keeping my HHKB Pro 2 as since i am collecting 60% boards anyways may as well keep one Topre in the rotation.  It also helps with Matt3o's advice i finally got my Red PBT Spacebar to fit and work properly.

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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 20:03:02 »
I was most disappointed by how much friction topre had..

The HHKB has way more friction than the Realforce boards. I was really disappointed by it when I got my first HHKB.

Something else strange is that the black keys sound and feel better on both the Realforce and HHKB (I have both colours of each).

The Realforce is just a better keyboard all around. The HHKB, while I really enjoy it in its own way, is really inconvenient a lot of the time. It's fine for general computer use, but anything that uses the F-layer or lots of navigation is a pain. The 45g in the HHKB is a bit heavier and pops a bit more than the 45g in the Realforce, though.

I do find that I get sick of all my keyboards before long, whether it's boredom, inconvenience, size, sound, weighting... it's always something. I praise the Realforce 87U 45g as much as I do because it's the only keyboard in my signature that I don't really tire of.
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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 21:55:11 »
I go in and out of mine. In fact, when I use Topre, I usually end up using the Novatouch over the HHKB. It's a board I'll keep, but it's a tough one for me to nail down in terms of regular usage.

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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 02:46:13 »
I was most disappointed by how much friction topre had..

The HHKB has way more friction than the Realforce boards. I was really disappointed by it when I got my first HHKB.

Something else strange is that the black keys sound and feel better on both the Realforce and HHKB (I have both colours of each).

The Realforce is just a better keyboard all around. The HHKB, while I really enjoy it in its own way, is really inconvenient a lot of the time. It's fine for general computer use, but anything that uses the F-layer or lots of navigation is a pain. The 45g in the HHKB is a bit heavier and pops a bit more than the 45g in the Realforce, though.

I do find that I get sick of all my keyboards before long, whether it's boredom, inconvenience, size, sound, weighting... it's always something. I praise the Realforce 87U 45g as much as I do because it's the only keyboard in my signature that I don't really tire of.

Hmm now see i felt the exact opposite in that i sold my Realforce in favor of my HHKB.  I found the case mounting on the HHKB much better feeling than the plate mount on the realforce boards.
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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 03:11:41 »
Yeah, the NovaTouch sounds lame. I think the TypeHeaven also sounds like a regular rubber dome.

The Royal Kludge/Plum Topre Clones sound like dental banded topre, and it's delicious! (because they are dental banded out of the box)
I thought the modded novatouches sounded pretty good.


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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 03:12:02 »
I go in and out of mine. In fact, when I use Topre, I usually end up using the Novatouch over the HHKB. It's a board I'll keep, but it's a tough one for me to nail down in terms of regular usage.

why do you prefer your novatouch?

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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 04:03:21 »
It's been the other way around with me.  I get other 60% or switches to try and they end up getting sold or in the case of my alps, put away for the venerable hhkb.

cuz its ****
hhkb is ****
a singular poo

3v1 right now

oK DemiQ as u will

but would damik hurt the 12yo girl that i am

would he rly

yes. i will.

in the name of hhkb's everywhere.

And right when he was overwhelmed by the three heels, my music would hit.


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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 07:39:49 »
Yeah, the NovaTouch sounds lame. I think the TypeHeaven also sounds like a regular rubber dome.

The Royal Kludge/Plum Topre Clones sound like dental banded topre, and it's delicious! (because they are dental banded out of the box)
I thought the modded novatouches sounded pretty good.

They're great!  Unmodded is a rattle-clack fest, though.  They really respond well to modding and everyone who owns one should at least lube the stabs and swap out for some nice caps.

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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 13:12:31 »
Yeah, the NovaTouch sounds lame. I think the TypeHeaven also sounds like a regular rubber dome.

The Royal Kludge/Plum Topre Clones sound like dental banded topre, and it's delicious! (because they are dental banded out of the box)
I thought the modded novatouches sounded pretty good.



To each his own and disrespect intended, IMHO that sounds pretty ugly, compared to what I hear with my unsilenced one. Which is not my favourite sound, either, but vaguely tolerable. The more I use the thing, the more I associate it mentally with a stiffer rubber dome, which is not really what I'm after.


They're great!  Unmodded is a rattle-clack fest, though.  They really respond well to modding and everyone who owns one should at least lube the stabs and swap out for some nice caps.

Tried Majestouch caps, didn't make much difference.

And it rattles, oh does it rattle. Which enhances the cheap feel of the keys wobbling under your fingers.
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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 17:13:42 »
So after some extended time has passed i'm glad i kept my main HHKB and did not trade/sell it.  WHile i am glad i traded the other since it was sitting boxed unused...going back and forth between my HHKB and ...a plethora of other 60%'s has made me appreciate it that much more.  SO thanks to those of you who convinced me to keep it :p


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Re: As time passes I find myself becoming less enthralled with my HHKB?
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 12 June 2016, 01:38:27 »
So after some extended time has passed i'm glad i kept my main HHKB and did not trade/sell it.  WHile i am glad i traded the other since it was sitting boxed unused...going back and forth between my HHKB and ...a plethora of other 60%'s has made me appreciate it that much more.  SO thanks to those of you who convinced me to keep it :p


@demik you can take me off the kill list now

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