[GB] DSA LightCycle Full Set (CANCELLED)

[Norman_the_Owl]

Order number 1419, 1 of each in alps.

I meant to order earlier, i just never got down to it

[Zealousy]

I won't be able to join by the end of the groupbuy, but I hope to be able to get in on the glorious ALPS leftovers...

[daaawooo]

Numbers update

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please can you post the numbers for today ? especially if alps reach moq ?

[evangs]

Numbers update

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please can you post the numbers for today ? especially if alps reach moq ?

Alps is getting produced!


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[pomk]

Yay! I remembered this in time! I got one of everything, except for numpads, as I dont like those.
This is probably the only international alps GB for a while, thank you for organizing this with us ISO retards in heart 

[evangs]

Yay! I remembered this in time! I got one of everything, except for numpads, as I dont like those.
This is probably the only international alps GB for a while, thank you for organizing this with us ISO retards in heart 

You are welcome! Thanks for your support


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[daaawooo]

Alps is getting produced!

yeah, great to hear.

Order #1431, full alps/matias

[evangs]

Alps is getting produced!

yeah, great to hear.

Order #1431, full alps/matias

Thank you!!


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[mushman]

Is the GB over tonight or tomorrow night?

Also the webpage for the "Extras" pack states "Various layout support (1800, ergo dox, MiniVan, JD40, JD45, minorca, sebright, Tada68, HHKB, etc)"

Specifically for the HHKB I see a small shift but no Control key where the left capslock is.  Is that right?

[evangs]

Is the GB over tonight or tomorrow night?

Also the webpage for the "Extras" pack states "Various layout support (1800, ergo dox, MiniVan, JD40, JD45, minorca, sebright, Tada68, HHKB, etc)"

Specifically for the HHKB I see a small shift but no Control key where the left capslock is.  Is that right?

That is correct. You would have to use the caps keycap. Orders will close tomorrow night


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[MickeyAsh]

Hi, this will be my first keycap GB (building an Ergodox.) Can you let me know which sets I need to order to have my ergo covered? I'm thinking I'll need the base and the compatibility? Thanks in advance! Love this set.

[evangs]

Hi, this will be my first keycap GB (building an Ergodox.) Can you let me know which sets I need to order to have my ergo covered? I'm thinking I'll need the base and the compatibility? Thanks in advance! Love this set.

yes base plus compat... you might need the numpad as well. be sure to count the number of 2 unit keys you need. I originally had the set as one large set and I don't remember if there are enough 2u keys across base + compat.

[evangs]

numbers update.



today is the last day to get in. PLACE YOUR FINAL ORDERS!

[MickeyAsh]

yes base plus compat... you might need the numpad as well. be sure to count the number of 2 unit keys you need. I originally had the set as one large set and I don't remember if there are enough 2u keys across base + compat.

Got it. I edited it on KLE and it looks like base+compat will cover it. Order placed! Thanks!

[yowaffle]

numbers update.

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today is the last day to get in. PLACE YOUR FINAL ORDERS!

I know you've said that you'll buy out the rest to meet moq but it really excites me to see the Alps base nearly there!

[zombimuncha]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

[evangs]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

[evangs]

numbers update.

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today is the last day to get in. PLACE YOUR FINAL ORDERS!

I know you've said that you'll buy out the rest to meet moq but it really excites me to see the Alps base nearly there!

the base set has gone over 100 since I posted those number :D

[zombimuncha]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

So no cruciform mounts anywhere on the Alps keys? Neat!

[zslane]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

[eksuen]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

[evangs]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

good to know. thanks for confirming this

[zslane]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

Wait, so you're saying that I am going to have to bend the right shift stabilizer wire just to make the LightCycle keycap fit?

[eksuen]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

Wait, so you're saying that I am going to have to bend the right shift stabilizer wire just to make the LightCycle keycap fit?

Or find a wire that fits, yes. The DSA Alps keys are apparently the same as the DCS Alps keys with regards to stab mount type and placement.

[nateth]

Bam. I'm in for an Alps set.

[evangs]

Bam. I'm in for an Alps set.

Thank you!


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[eksuen]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

good to know. thanks for confirming this

Just double checked my board.
Correction: the stab inserts are Alps-style except the spacebar, which is MX-style.

[evangs]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

good to know. thanks for confirming this

Just double checked my board.
Correction: the stab inserts are Alps-style except the spacebar, which is MX-style.

Gotta love inconsistency


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[evangs]

Final Numbers

MX
Base - 330
Numpad - 164
Compat - 133

Alps
Base - 105
Numpad - 46
Compat - 60

I have placed the order with SP and will hopefully be received the invoice soon. There is a special bonus that I will just leave as a surprise for when people start receiving their sets

[Norman_the_Owl]

How exciting. Do we get a hint?

[Vigrith]

I have placed the order with SP and will hopefully be received the invoice soon. There is a special bonus that I will just leave as a surprise for when people start receiving their sets

Oooo. I'll be sure not to be around much then once the sets start going out - else the surprise will be getting spoiled by the pesky US buyers before my order arrives!

[pixelpusher]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

good to know. thanks for confirming this

Just double checked my board.
Correction: the stab inserts are Alps-style except the spacebar, which is MX-style.

This is going to suck some big ass if I can't get these on my V60. Not only does it only match up with 1 mounting hole on most standard 60% cases, but now I'm discovering that I just spend $100 on keycaps I can't use?  Dear lord, say it isn't so.

[pixelpusher]

I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

Wait, so you're saying that I am going to have to bend the right shift stabilizer wire just to make the LightCycle keycap fit?

How can a bent stabilizer wire ever feel right?  Does it feel all janky?

P.S.  Anyone know how to go about making a stabilizer wire? What gauge the wires are and such?

[eksuen]

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I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

good to know. thanks for confirming this

Just double checked my board.
Correction: the stab inserts are Alps-style except the spacebar, which is MX-style.

This is going to suck some big ass if I can't get these on my V60. Not only does it only match up with 1 mounting hole on most standard 60% cases, but now I'm discovering that I just spend $100 on keycaps I can't use?  Dear lord, say it isn't so.

You can still use the keycaps. They just won't have 100% compatibility right out of the gate. You will need to do two things: 1) acquire MX-style stab inserts and 2) modify your existing right shift stab wire or get a new one.

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I realize this is a little late to be bringing this up but, I just read thru the entire IC and GB threads, and it was never really specified *how* the stabs are going to work on Alps. Did SP find a way to do rectangular-mount Alps stabs on DSA keys? Last I heard the stab mounts were always cherry style cruciform. Like this:http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alps-mount-2-space-pack-of-4/
Will the Matias hook set be included with the Alps orders?

the stabs match the linked cap. no stabs are included with the set.

Shouldn't be a problem for me, anyway. I simply plan to use the stab inserts that came with my KBP V60 mini.

The stab inserts on the V60MTS are alps-style and not cherry-style cruciforms. SP's Alps mount keycaps also have the stab mounts closer to the center compared to the stock keycaps on the V60MTS. All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

Wait, so you're saying that I am going to have to bend the right shift stabilizer wire just to make the LightCycle keycap fit?

How can a bent stabilizer wire ever feel right?  Does it feel all janky?

Mine was a tight fit at first right after modifying the wire, but I filed down the stab holder that fits into the plate to allow for more clearance and it doesn't feel all that different from my unmodified left shift now. YMMV depending on how you modify your wire I suppose. I also use the left shift almost exclusively, so this isn't an issue for me.

[zslane]

I also use the left shift almost exclusively, so this isn't an issue for me.

Same here.

As such, I would probably just elect to remove the stabilizer wire all together. If I ever felt the temptation to use the right shift key, I would just do my best to aim for its center with my pinky.

[zombimuncha]

P.S.  Anyone know how to go about making a stabilizer wire? What gauge the wires are and such?

Plan A: bend a paperclip
Plan B: buy it ready made from Matias (the set includes the plastic inserts you need for the other keys, so this should probably be option A for folks that don't already have those)
Plan C: buy the right gauge of wire and a wire-bender tool and make it yourself, but properly. The wire gauge is common knowledge but I always forget it. I remember that it can be found in the wiki at r/mk tho.

All the wires work fine except the right shift. I had to bend my wire haphazardly until it worked.

Huh.
I'm *still* faffing about trying to get my Badwrench DCS mods installed on my V80MTS, but I *am* lazy (and easily distracted by Zealios and GMK.)
But anyway, I didn't realize the other three wires would fit. I always started with the RShift because it was the biggest and in my mind should therefore be the easiest. I hadn't even tried the original wires from the V80MTS with the SP caps because I just assumed I would need to bend them, and I don't want to bend them.

[mushman]

Just put the 1U Shift key there.  Problem solved.  )

[00zeRO]

Just put the 1U Shift key there.  Problem solved.  )

Or 1.75u

[pixelpusher]

Plan A: bend a paperclip
Plan B: buy it ready made from Matias (the set includes the plastic inserts you need for the other keys, so this should probably be option A for folks that don't already have those)
Plan C: buy the right gauge of wire and a wire-bender tool and make it yourself, but properly. The wire gauge is common knowledge but I always forget it. I remember that it can be found in the wiki at r/mk tho.

Aha!  Didn't realize they sold them.  Is this what I would need: https://matias.store/products/stabilizer-and-hook-set  I guess $10 $15 isn't a deal-breaker by any means.

P.S.  Shipping was $5 for 5-8 day shipping. WTH?  $5 for a padded envelope going standard mail?

[pixelpusher]

I also use the left shift almost exclusively, so this isn't an issue for me.

Same here.

As such, I would probably just elect to remove the stabilizer wire all together. If I ever felt the temptation to use the right shift key, I would just do my best to aim for its center with my pinky.

Insanity!     I guess I just learned to use the shift opposite of which ever hand was typing the letter.  I would say I use them both equally.  But I'm glad to know I can order a stabilizer set from Matias.  This news just made my day.

[eksuen]

Plan A: bend a paperclip
Plan B: buy it ready made from Matias (the set includes the plastic inserts you need for the other keys, so this should probably be option A for folks that don't already have those)
Plan C: buy the right gauge of wire and a wire-bender tool and make it yourself, but properly. The wire gauge is common knowledge but I always forget it. I remember that it can be found in the wiki at r/mk tho.

Aha!  Didn't realize they sold them.  Is this what I would need: https://matias.store/products/stabilizer-and-hook-set  I guess $10 $15 isn't a deal-breaker by any means.

P.S.  Shipping was $5 for 5-8 day shipping. WTH?  $5 for a padded envelope going standard mail?

That will get the wire. I cannot confirm whether or not it works as I just bent my existing wire. You will still need to get MX-style cruciform stab inserts though since that's what SP's Alps mount caps use. WASDkeyboards sells them: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts/cherry-mx-keycap-stabilizer-insert-2pcs.html

[pixelpusher]

That will get the wire. I cannot confirm whether or not it works as I just bent my existing wire. You will still need to get MX-style cruciform stab inserts though since that's what SP's Alps mount caps use. WASDkeyboards sells them: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts/cherry-mx-keycap-stabilizer-insert-2pcs.html

It looks like the set comes with 4 cherry inserts, right?   From the description:

Top Hooks (for connecting to the underside of the keycap - 2 top hooks are needed per large keycap):

Minimum 14pcs (usually around 18pcs) Alps style (gray)
Minimum 4pcs (usually around 5pcs) Cherry style (white)

[zslane]

I don't see how buying a stabilizer wire from Matias helps here.The problem here is that the stock 2.75u stabilizer wire of the KBP V60 mini is the wrong width to fit the post spacing of SP keycaps, right? The stab wire in the KBP is already a Matias wire (after all, the KBP has Matias switches in it). How does buying another one help?

[pixelpusher]

I don't see how buying a stabilizer wire from Matias helps here.The problem here is that the stock 2.75u stabilizer wire of the KBP V60 mini is the wrong width to fit the post spacing of SP keycaps, right? The stab wire in the KBP is already a Matias wire (after all, the KBP has Matias switches in it). How does buying another one help?

I see what you're saying, unless the KBP has some proprietary wire (surely not the case), I don't know that this is going to help.  Maybe we'll be able to mod an MX wire on it somehow?  I guess we won't know until we get the caps and get to the dirty work.

I went ahead and bought the pack so that I could have a wire and inserts in case I needed them.  I don't have any extra on hand.  I guess worst case scenario is that I can bend up the extra one as my practice wire and perfect it on the second attempt.

[zombimuncha]

I don't see how buying a stabilizer wire from Matias helps here.The problem here is that the stock 2.75u stabilizer wire of the KBP V60 mini is the wrong width to fit the post spacing of SP keycaps, right? The stab wire in the KBP is already a Matias wire (after all, the KBP has Matias switches in it). How does buying another one help?

I see what you're saying, unless the KBP has some proprietary wire (surely not the case), I don't know that this is going to help.  Maybe we'll be able to mod an MX wire on it somehow?  I guess we won't know until we get the caps and get to the dirty work.

I went ahead and bought the pack so that I could have a wire and inserts in case I needed them.  I don't have any extra on hand.  I guess worst case scenario is that I can bend up the extra one as my practice wire and perfect it on the second attempt.

Sorry chaps, I was under the impression that the Matias kit came with both the standard Alps wires and the hybrid Alps/Cherry ones. On closer inspection it looks like I was wrong about that. At least you can get a second set of Alps-style wires so you can bend them without messing up your originals. But that still doesn't help with the 2.75 shift.

Gentlemen, choose your weapons: paperclips & pliers, or music wire & a Du-Bro. 

[eksuen]

You'll need 8 cherry stab inserts since the spacebar on the V60MTS already uses cherry inserts. For the wire, it's not really a width issue, strictly speaking. The issue is that the wire isn't long enough such that the ends that are bent towards the switch don't extend far enough inward to hold the stab inserts.

[pixelpusher]

Gentlemen, choose your weapons: paperclips & pliers, or music wire & a Du-Bro. 

-Sup man?

-Oh not much.  Bending some small wire.

-DUDE.  YOU'VE GOTTA SEE THIS VIDEO I SAW ON GEEKHACK TODAY

[Shadowkiller]

You'll need 8 cherry stab inserts since the spacebar on the V60MTS already uses cherry inserts. For the wire, it's not really a width issue, strictly speaking. The issue is that the wire isn't long enough such that the ends that are bent towards the switch don't extend far enough inward to hold the stab inserts.

So for the remaining stabilizer wires, not including the 2.75, they will fit fine with the cherry mx insert keys? I thought that since the alps stab wires are decently bigger than the mx ones, and the alps insert is a bit more forward than where the cherry mx inserts are located on the keycpas you would have to mcguyver something with all the wires in order to get compatibility.
I don't have a KBP60 nor a mx insert key (save my spacebar but I don't have a full length spacebar on my keyboard so I can't test), since mine is a custom which is why I'm asking.

[eksuen]

You'll need 8 cherry stab inserts since the spacebar on the V60MTS already uses cherry inserts. For the wire, it's not really a width issue, strictly speaking. The issue is that the wire isn't long enough such that the ends that are bent towards the switch don't extend far enough inward to hold the stab inserts.

So for the remaining stabilizer wires, not including the 2.75, they will fit fine with the cherry mx insert keys? I thought that since the alps stab wires are decently bigger than the mx ones, and the alps insert is a bit more forward than where the cherry mx inserts are located on the keycpas you would have to mcguyver something with all the wires in order to get compatibility.
I don't have a KBP60 nor a mx insert key (save my spacebar but I don't have a full length spacebar on my keyboard so I can't test), since mine is a custom which is why I'm asking.

Yes, they all fit fine. On my V60MTS, which this response was typed with, I used all the stock wires with the Cherry inserts from WASD without any issue, barring the 2.75u right shift, of course. The Cherry inserts may have a loose fit in the keycap stab mounts, but that's an easy fix with some Scotch tape or Saran wrap.

[Shadowkiller]

You'll need 8 cherry stab inserts since the spacebar on the V60MTS already uses cherry inserts. For the wire, it's not really a width issue, strictly speaking. The issue is that the wire isn't long enough such that the ends that are bent towards the switch don't extend far enough inward to hold the stab inserts.

So for the remaining stabilizer wires, not including the 2.75, they will fit fine with the cherry mx insert keys? I thought that since the alps stab wires are decently bigger than the mx ones, and the alps insert is a bit more forward than where the cherry mx inserts are located on the keycpas you would have to mcguyver something with all the wires in order to get compatibility.
I don't have a KBP60 nor a mx insert key (save my spacebar but I don't have a full length spacebar on my keyboard so I can't test), since mine is a custom which is why I'm asking.

Yes, they all fit fine. On my V60MTS, which this response was typed with, I used all the stock wires with the Cherry inserts from WASD without any issue, barring the 2.75u right shift, of course. The Cherry inserts may have a loose fit in the keycap stab mounts, but that's an easy fix with some Scotch tape or Saran wrap.

Then I guess I lucked out with my custom then. The spacing of the stabs on my 2.75 key is the same as all my 2 spaced keys, so I can just swap it for a 2 spaced wire and it would fit fine. So in theory I won't have to worry about modding; we'll see when the time comes though haha.