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[IC] SA Mechanist (launch in 2018 with MD!)
« on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 07:54:34 »
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      Hi! Everyone!
       I'm very pleased to  introduce our new design, the SP SA keycaps "Mechanist".It's all  about lowkey blue colors.
       As our basic principle that low-key colors are often more suitable for work and long-time use, .so we decide to apply deep blue, cyan , light grey. not that fancy, but more convinient and comfort not only at your home and also at work. This newly designed keyset will match a variety of keyboards layouts , and also have some  personalized inteseting novolties for this set, It would be very cool.

Set name:Mechanist
Profile:SA(1-1-2-3-4-3)
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GB schedule:2017, TBD
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Children deals:
1. Alphas

2. Frozen Alphas

3. TKL

4. Adapter( non-standard )
5. Numpad

6. Planck/Atomic

7.40%

8. Minila

9. Ergodox

10. Novolties1
12. Forums

11. Novolties2

13. Dvorak/Colemak

14. International
15. ISO


We referred to some successful SA sets'  kit layout but still need everyone's suggestions to improve it .
Need your feedbacks.  ;D ;D ;D   

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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 07:55:08 »



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Offline Overchecken8

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:44:18 »
Love those colors. I'll be interested to see some mock ups.

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:48:15 »
I'm excited for the mock ups. This may be my Light Cycle replacement.

Offline hoq

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:59:39 »
We used 3 kinds of blue colors, It's all about cold-tone blue.  :p

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 10:16:19 »
This sounds like something I'd want to have on the board at work (manufacturing company). Looking forward to seeing renders!

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:42:54 »
Nice color choices. I can always use more blue SA keysets...  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:46:39 »
I like the colors. I like the work this team has done in the past. You have my interest!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:54:24 »
I like the colors. I like the work this team has done in the past. You have my interest!  :thumb:

What other projects have they done in the past?  Still fairly new here
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:22:48 »
Design:WolfMark Team

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:31:05 »
Nice color choices. I can always use more blue SA keysets...  :thumb:
This coming from the creator of SA Dasher/Dancer is just too funny.

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 13:40:56 »
Blue alphas (in SA format) are almost unheard of. We need more! Dasher/Dancer is merely a good start.  ;D

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 14:25:11 »
Have you thought about about naming the set something different? "Mechanist" isn't really part of the English lexicon. In addition, it's a name that is used in the Fallout video game, and you might run into some IP issues like the Out of the Vault GB did.

I think that calling the set "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker" will better convey the feel that you are trying to create.


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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 15:46:07 »
I like the choice of colors, looking forward to previews! Reminds me of Submechanophobia, the fear of man made machines below sea. https://www.reddit.com/r/submechanophobia/
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Offline hoq

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 19:58:43 »
Blue alphas (in SA format) are almost unheard of. We need more! Dasher/Dancer is merely a good start.  ;D

Yes, your DaD set made a good start,  the colors are quiet suitable for work , people love it.
BTW, we call your set "dad" in China  :p,  a lot of people love your design and eager to buy one, really looking forward to Dec. groupbuy of Dasher/Dancer

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 20:10:21 »
Have you thought about about naming the set something different? "Mechanist" isn't really part of the English lexicon. In addition, it's a name that is used in the Fallout video game, and you might run into some IP issues like the Out of the Vault GB did.

I think that calling the set "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker" will better convey the feel that you are trying to create.

I know "mechanist " is not  a common word in English,but "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker"  are too normal, and not impressive at all.

and,this set has absolutely on intimation of any games and brands.......
   

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 20:21:07 »
I like the choice of colors, looking forward to previews! Reminds me of Submechanophobia, the fear of man made machines below sea. https://www.reddit.com/r/submechanophobia/

haha,the cold blue tone, reminds people of  some mechenical killing devices.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:20:07 »
hyped to see the design and novelties !
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 03:26:06 »
If you're looking for a unique name, then how about "Grease Monkey"? That's the slang version of "Mechanic."

Even if you aren't taking any inspiration from Fallout, you might still find yourself in hot water for using the name of one of the characters.
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 03:40:45 »
Is that a character's name?That's funny!

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 05:31:40 »
There are actually several characters named "Mechanist" in the Fallout series, but that's not funny because using that name might get you into the kind of trouble that stopped another GB.
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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 13:27:06 »
'Mechanist' is an archaic form of 'Mechanic', as well as a term used in philosophy to describe a believer of mechanism. The word's usage peaked once in the 1820s and again between in the 1930s. The Fallout series doesn't own the word any more than J.K. Rowling owns the word 'Potter'. ;)

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 13:37:40 »
So, let's get this going and we can put them on our  JC65 builds coming up!   :p
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 14:01:48 »
Awesome color theme, been looking for something like this. Are you considering multiple alpha sets so we can play with the color layout at all?

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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:30:29 »
Awesome color theme, been looking for something like this. Are you considering multiple alpha sets so we can play with the color layout at all?


Now we have not decided, but very likely.
One more alpha color, can be more suitable for some occasions.
But we need to carefully consider the color mix.

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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:38:17 »
'Mechanist' is an archaic form of 'Mechanic', as well as a term used in philosophy to describe a believer of mechanism. The word's usage peaked once in the 1820s and again between in the 1930s. The Fallout series doesn't own the word any more than J.K. Rowling owns the word 'Potter'. ;)

Yes, I use mechanist this word to emphasize those enthusiasts of Mechanicalism.

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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:46:15 »
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 22:49:42 »
hyped to see the design and novelties !

Novolties are still need to improve.
we need some more time.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 23:26:40 »
Really like the colors, but no 40% love? Need to advocate for more MiniVan support!

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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 00:25:00 »
changed the WA keycap legend color to BBJ
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:04:54 »
drawings announced!  please refer to the OP
 

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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:18:17 »
Count me in for Base, Frozen and Numpad  :thumb: very nice work, looks a bit like an inverted Calm Depths if you don't mind me saying, but of course enough differences that make it unique nonetheless.

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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:21:18 »
If you want to keep costs down for users of alternative layouts you should split the base kit into alphas and modifiers.

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:33:46 »
Count me in for Base, Frozen and Numpad  :thumb: very nice work, looks a bit like an inverted Calm Depths if you don't mind me saying, but of course enough differences that make it unique nonetheless.

Thanks.
Actually, after we decided the colors,  we found that they the same with some popular SA designs.

BFR: calmdepth
BBJ :  Dasher and Dancer, Oblivion
BFM:  yuri
WA:  a lot of sets use it as a font color.

but ,I think the color matching and the design inspiration are unique for Mechanist.

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:39:56 »
Love it. In for base, frozen, both novelties, and numpad.

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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 00:31:56 »
Saving up my money now....

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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 08:51:29 »
Awesome. Love the frozen alphas!

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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 08:54:27 »
Base and frozen, count me in.  Are the frozen alphas the same colors as Chronicler?

http://www.kbdist.com/chronicler-origins/

I don't think that set ever did much though because of the miscommunication.  I believe they were run with Cherry legends not centered. 
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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 09:41:35 »
Base and frozen, count me in.  Are the frozen alphas the same colors as Chronicler?

I tried to find which white(grey?) color that Chronicler used on Originative, but the color information is not there.
According to its real photo which taken after production, the keycaps look more grey than WA.


and I also checked the introduction of Chronicler,it says inspired by DCS Soware, 
Soware used the BFQ(cyan), GSL(light grey), GTD(deep grey)

so , I don't think they are the same. we are so lucky!

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« Reply #39 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 09:44:54 »
These are beautiful.

Only two things are missing from this to make it perfect for me:
A 1.75 R3 key that's either FN, blank, or a novelty.
A second 2.25 R3 novelty key so I can have two in the same color to use as a split space bar. Two blank 2.25 keys would work as well, but a second novelty might be easier to add to the set.

If those were options than I'd definitely get this set instead of or in addition to SA Oblivion, since it's the only set I know of so far that has those options.

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« Reply #40 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 10:35:22 »
Wow, you found a lot more info on Chronicler than I've ever seen. :)

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« Reply #41 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 11:50:25 »
Interested!

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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 12:55:59 »
My wife is going to kill me. I think this will be my first SA set.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 13:19:54 »
Love it. Any chance of PBT uniform r3?

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 13:22:14 »
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan

Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:05:09 »
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan

Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!

I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective.  Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet.  Gratz on that.  However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:25:45 »
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan

Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!

I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective.  Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet.  Gratz on that.  However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.

Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)

Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.

Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board

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« Reply #47 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:30:52 »
Lovely colors. Will probably be in on this.

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« Reply #48 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:38:46 »
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan

Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!

I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective.  Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet.  Gratz on that.  However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.

Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)

Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.

Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board

Thanks for the link.  Yes, the font is similar but it looks a bit too small and kind of short in X-height. 
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Re: [IC] SA Mechanist
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:55:27 »
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan

Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!

I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective.  Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet.  Gratz on that.  However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.

Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)

Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.

Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board

Thanks for the link.  Yes, the font is similar but it looks a bit too small and kind of short in X-height.

No, thank you for the vote :D And indeed, I wonder what the standard font of KBLE is? I Googled it and I can't seem to find anything