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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:49:15 »
Halverson Hack Orange

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Actually it's just "Hack Orange", it's just that Halverson seems to have accumulated about a thousand of them.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:51:18 »
Halverson Hack Orange

thx  ;D

Actually it's just "Hack Orange", it's just that Halverson seems to have accumulated about a thousand of them.
if you're viewing this on Tapatalk, my comment had a strikethrough thought the Halverson bit

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:54:39 »
Halverson Hack Orange

thx  ;D

Actually it's just "Hack Orange", it's just that Halverson seems to have accumulated about a thousand of them.
if you're viewing this on Tapatalk, my comment had a strikethrough thought the Halverson bit

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What with nearly half the characters having horizontal lines halfway down, and my bad eyes, must have missed that :))
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:57:43 »
it's cuz of ****s like u that ****ed the clack market REEEEeee
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 15 November 2017, 20:02:16 »
it's cuz of ****s like u that ****ed the clack market REEEEeee

Only if you want Topre HO Skulls ...
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 15:51:51 »
Bump. Selling my soul
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 16:07:13 »
Bump. Selling my soul

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 16:11:25 »
dem :thumb:

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 17:01:45 »
Depth black has been sold.

Only two mint gum left, possibly one pending!
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 07:38:02 »
GLWS Dad

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 07:59:08 »
wut?

WHY?

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 08:11:43 »
Somehow I didn't realize you had 16 of them...
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 09:43:59 »
I'll buy one for the original retail price.

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 09:47:10 »
Had to stop by and say , wow! that's an impressive collection of HO. Sooo many.  :thumb:

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:32:58 »
Too bad green not for sale.

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 11:44:23 »
Somehow I didn't realize you had 16 of them...

I actually had 18/19 and a BS one.

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 11:44:53 »
wut?

WHY?

WHY?

Sorry man, life I guess. Bad life choices.
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:38:37 »
May have to add keyboards soon
For now, still clacks
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:48:27 »
May have to add keyboards soon
For now, still clacks

ur a clack
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:51:07 »
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 19:48:11 »
I follow this thread with trepidation and a certain amount of dismay that I do not have sufficient disposable income to ease your burden.

GLWS :D
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 05 February 2018, 13:30:48 »
Maybe
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 14 February 2018, 18:58:13 »
I got what I needed from this sale, but at this point....bah. HOs if needed
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 15 February 2018, 11:53:24 »
PMed.  Thanks!  :thumb:

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 23 February 2018, 16:04:04 »
Buy two for $200 shipped
Buy three for $275 shipped
Buy four for $350 shipped
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 23 February 2018, 18:42:28 »
Thanks Halverson, got the cap yesterday!  Perfect condition and looking good!   :thumb:

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:07:12 »
pm sent

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:16:10 »
WTB topre -> mx adapter :p
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:28:55 »
WTB topre -> mx adapter :p

Just need a real topre board, become one with cup rubber :D
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:40:55 »
WTB topre -> mx adapter :p

Just need a real topre board, become one with cup rubber :D

I don't know if I can.. too much flimsy plastic, every time I look  :-\
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #80 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:46:32 »
WTB topre -> mx adapter :p

Just need a real topre board, become one with cup rubber :D

I don't know if I can.. too much flimsy plastic, every time I look  :-\

Give some a try sometime, Iím always surprised how sturdy my TKL realforce is.
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #81 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:50:18 »
WTB topre -> mx adapter :p

Just need a real topre board, become one with cup rubber :D

I don't know if I can.. too much flimsy plastic, every time I look  :-\

Give some a try sometime, Iím always surprised how sturdy my TKL realforce is.

I will try :D Just need to find the most yellowed/beige case I can hehe
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #82 on: Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:59:30 »
RIP HO top row, gone but not forgotten


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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:14:00 »
What has this world come to.

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:33:48 »
What has this world come to.

Your mom.

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 15:40:57 »
Thanks again Halverson!  Finally got a clack!   :thumb:

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:06:09 »
Thanks again Halverson!  Finally got a clack!   :thumb:


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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:37:14 »
Thanks again Halverson!  Finally got a clack!   :thumb:


:D

At least me losing my long time achievement is bringing multiple people the love of Hack Orange :)
Now bring me the love of girlshark  :-*

Rest in peace Timberman

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:47:53 »
Thanks again Halverson!  Finally got a clack!   :thumb:


:D

At least me losing my long time achievement is bringing multiple people the love of Hack Orange :)
Now bring me the love of girlshark  :-*

On my way to Europe!
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How can you believe that I'm not a waste of space?
Oh I'm sorry to disappoint, I seldom save face.
But how can I speak your language
when I don't know my own....

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:52:27 »
Thanks again Halverson!  Finally got a clack!   :thumb:


:D

At least me losing my long time achievement is bringing multiple people the love of Hack Orange :)
Now bring me the love of girlshark  :-*

On my way to Europe!
Lets go! When are you planning to travel here?

Rest in peace Timberman

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:53:23 »
Thanks again Halverson!  Finally got a clack!   :thumb:


:D

At least me losing my long time achievement is bringing multiple people the love of Hack Orange :)
Now bring me the love of girlshark  :-*

On my way to Europe!
Lets go! When are you planning to travel here?


Iíd love to come when I get my life together, hopefully in the next decade!
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How can you believe that I'm not a waste of space?
Oh I'm sorry to disappoint, I seldom save face.
But how can I speak your language
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:37:20 »
Yo, Halverson. Where did you wind up?

I would LOVE a HO if you still have one. Hit me up if you're still in/around TO.

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 22:33:05 »
Yo, Halverson. Where did you wind up?

I would LOVE a HO if you still have one. Hit me up if you're still in/around TO.

Iíll message you next time I hop on battle net! I live in Ottawa now!
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #93 on: Tue, 13 March 2018, 22:37:02 »
I'm always on. Got back into WoW. Kill me?

Say hi to Justin for me. We're tight!

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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 17:38:18 »
Bump! Big update, will update the title tonight when I add more items for sale.
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 18:01:11 »
pmd

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« Reply #96 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 18:04:34 »
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 18:06:57 »
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Re: WTS: TOPRE CLACKS
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 16 March 2018, 19:15:47 »
Hey guys. I have gotten quite a few pms. Iím currently busy, have time just for this update.
 I will be selling in order of messages to be completely fair.

Will reply to every single message in the next few hours, tonight for sure.

Thanks for the interest!
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Big update, will fix all the imgur links in a bit.
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