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Re: [IC] KAM Inu (zFrontier x Keyreative)
« Reply #150 on: Sun, 21 July 2019, 05:59:50 »
Did they just ghost you?


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Re: [IC] KAM Inu (zFrontier x Keyreative)
« Reply #151 on: Sun, 21 July 2019, 09:17:13 »
Hope it does still happen! We're still interested here :)

Re: [IC] KAM Inu (zFrontier x Keyreative)
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 03:14:11 »
I just saw this post and I promise that there will be new progress tomorrow.

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Re: [IC] KAM Inu (zFrontier x Keyreative)
« Reply #153 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:10:49 »
Looks like we're back in business!

What do you guys think of a name change? Inu (just dog lol) always seemed kinda weird to me.

I think "Little Pilot" (main character's nickname) sounds kinda nice.

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Re: [IC] KAM Inu (zFrontier x Keyreative)
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 20:09:42 »
Exciting! Is this 2020 or 2019 GB?
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Re: [IC] KAM Inu (zFrontier x Keyreative)
« Reply #155 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 20:14:05 »
Exciting! Is this 2020 or 2019 GB?

Not sure at this point, Keyreative reached out today so we'll see :cool:

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (Inu)
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 14 August 2019, 13:41:41 »
Nice :)
I hope the samples will turn out great, it's definitely too shiny for Wraith but could be beautiful with the white alpha!

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (Inu)
« Reply #157 on: Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:08:13 »
Quick update:

Got the KAM samples last week but they were done using the old legends file. I've already sent Keyreative the needed fixes but overall they look great. The colors are much improved and the feel is much better than DSA. Waiting on new samples with the updates (thicker yellow legends, larger alpha legends) and then we can kick off the group buy shortly after.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (Inu)
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 19 August 2019, 21:09:21 »
👀
Anything larger than a 65% is extraneous!

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (Inu)
« Reply #159 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 03:33:01 »
Nice, you should post the samples somewhere else soon, before the group buy so it can gain traction.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (Inu)
« Reply #160 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 10:59:00 »
Nice, you should post the samples somewhere else soon, before the group buy so it can gain traction.

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Will post elsewhere when I get the new round of samples in person!

Speaking of those here's a sneak peek:



Final black modifiers will start with a yellow plastic and use a black mask (as opposed to white plastic with legend and black dyed on), so they should look much better.
Also there's the homing bars that DSA didn't have.

Will have updates around pricing and group buy date shortly!

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #161 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 11:10:44 »
so the final set will be glossy?

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #162 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 11:12:41 »
so the final set will be glossy?

Yessir, KAM is glossy

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #163 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 11:28:27 »
oh damn, KAT officially just got interesting to me, didn't realize it had gloss finish! This project has officially made its way back onto my radar.
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #164 on: Wed, 21 August 2019, 14:41:04 »
Nice, you should post the samples somewhere else soon, before the group buy so it can gain traction.

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Will post elsewhere when I get the new round of samples in person!

Speaking of those here's a sneak peek:

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Final black modifiers will start with a yellow plastic and use a black mask (as opposed to white plastic with legend and black dyed on), so they should look much better.
Also there's the homing bars that DSA didn't have.

Will have updates around pricing and group buy date shortly!


Red is made like black, right?  Yellow plastic with red mask?

oh damn, KAT officially just got interesting to me, didn't realize it had gloss finish! This project has officially made its way back onto my radar.

KAT and KAM 100% different tooling - even R2 shapes are different.
   • KAT is sculpted and I think matt finish.
   • KAM is uniform profile and glossy.



KAT row labels are backwards from typical - not sure why.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 08:53:10 »
Really unique set, esp. with that glossy finish. Want to throw this on a black Rama Thermal. Count me in!

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #166 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 09:24:48 »
I struggle to justify getting DSA profile sets but the design on this is too enticing.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #167 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 09:40:26 »
I struggle to justify getting DSA profile sets but the design on this is too enticing.

While both are uniform profile, KAM isn't exactly the same as DSA.




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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #168 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 10:00:42 »
Thanks for sharing! I wonder how that translates to key feel when typing.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #169 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 10:38:35 »
Red is made like black, right?  Yellow plastic with red mask?


Yup exactly  :thumb:


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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 06:24:39 »
Sexy PBT set, nice profile, ISO UK and euro proxy.. perfect run here, i'm in.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #171 on: Fri, 13 September 2019, 11:51:11 »
The legends on the black modifiers are looking good now! Will update you all as soon as I know the GB date.




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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #172 on: Fri, 13 September 2019, 14:40:12 »
The legends on the black modifiers are looking good now! Will update you all as soon as I know the GB date.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot (New samples)
« Reply #173 on: Fri, 13 September 2019, 19:50:38 »
I cannot wait for this Group Buy. Looks awesome. Job well done so far!

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #174 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 01:36:47 »
Updated the main post, groupbuy starts December 1st!

Changes:

– Homing kit for Colemak/Dvorak support
– Small changes to ISO UK & Ergo kits
– Adjustments to hiragana legends

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #175 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:16:55 »
Updated the main post, groupbuy starts December 1st!

Changes:

– Homing kit for Colemak/Dvorak support
– Small changes to ISO UK & Ergo kits
– Adjustments to hiragana legends

Could you add homing "A" to the Colevrak kit to support Carpalx QGMLWY?


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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #176 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 13:51:27 »
Could you add homing "A" to the Colevrak kit to support Carpalx QGMLWY?

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Can do!

Edit: Done!
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #177 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 14:04:21 »
Could you add homing "A" to the Colevrak kit to support Carpalx QGMLWY?

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Can do!

I, for one, welcome our new CARPALX overlords.
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #178 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:57:13 »
Here's a suggestion: Put the 1.5u Tab key in the Alphas kit (and remove it from Base Mods & Ergo kits) and put an Esc and a Return key in the normal mod colors in the Exotic kit. Why? Because this has several nice benefits: This would make the Exotic kit a _standalone HHKB Mod kit_!! Which would dramatically decrease the cost of getting this set for an HHKB layout without inconveniencing anyone else. Similarly, someone who wants to outfit two keyboards with different layouts with this set has a high chance of only needing one each of the Base Mods and the Exotic kits, since each mod kit would provide Esc and Return keys and the Tab would be provided by the Alphas, which one naturally would have to buy twice. Lastly, the Exotic kit would not only serve as extra mods for exotic layouts and a standalone mod kit for HHKB, but also as a de-accent kit (due to including non-accented Esc and Return) which are often very popular. Alternatively, the Esc and Return keys in the Exotic kit could have the mods base color but a different legend color, like red (my preference I think) or white, so that they're still accents, just more subtle ones.

What do you think?

Edit: Now that I think about it, the accented 1u Esc key might as well be in the Alphas kit as well. You never need more Esc keys than you need Qs, Ws etc and it's in just about every mod kit.

Another Edit: Thinking about the Exotic kit a bit more, I think I would prefer it if Fn and Ctrl keys of size 1.5 or higher said "Function" and "Control" instead. The 1.25 Fn key could also say "Func" imo.
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #179 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 07:16:37 »
Here's a suggestion: Put the 1.5u Tab key in the Alphas kit (and remove it from Base Mods & Ergo kits) and put an Esc and a Return key in the normal mod colors in the Exotic kit. Why? Because this has several nice benefits: This would make the Exotic kit a _standalone HHKB Mod kit_!! Which would dramatically decrease the cost of getting this set for an HHKB layout without inconveniencing anyone else. Similarly, someone who wants to outfit two keyboards with different layouts with this set has a high chance of only needing one each of the Base Mods and the Exotic kits, since each mod kit would provide Esc and Return keys and the Tab would be provided by the Alphas, which one naturally would have to buy twice. Lastly, the Exotic kit would not only serve as extra mods for exotic layouts and a standalone mod kit for HHKB, but also as a de-accent kit (due to including non-accented Esc and Return) which are often very popular. Alternatively, the Esc and Return keys in the Exotic kit could have the mods base color but a different legend color, like red (my preference I think) or white, so that they're still accents, just more subtle ones.

What do you think?

Edit: Now that I think about it, the accented 1u Esc key might as well be in the Alphas kit as well. You never need more Esc keys than you need Qs, Ws etc and it's in just about every mod kit.

Another Edit: Thinking about the Exotic kit a bit more, I think I would prefer it if Fn and Ctrl keys of size 1.5 or higher said "Function" and "Control" instead. The 1.25 Fn key could also say "Func" imo.

Hey, unfortunately kits are already locked in and quoted. We're getting pretty close to the GB date and focusing on other details at this point.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #180 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 07:25:58 »
Hey, unfortunately kits are already locked in and quoted. We're getting pretty close to the GB date and focusing on other details at this point.
Oh noo that's unfortunate :( Sorry for being late with that. What are the expected prices, then?

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #181 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 10:19:29 »
Hey, unfortunately kits are already locked in and quoted. We're getting pretty close to the GB date and focusing on other details at this point.
Oh noo that's unfortunate :( Sorry for being late with that. What are the expected prices, then?

Will announce once the proxies finalize their pricing, but they should be very affordable ✌️✌️

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #182 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:45:14 »
any changes ?
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #183 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 22:46:12 »
Like the legends on this one :cool:

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #184 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:21:50 »
Any idea when the prices will be announced?

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #185 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 00:29:46 »
I just want to say that I wholeheartedly support this KAM project and I'm glad it's going forward, especially since KAM Wraith has decided to ditch the glossy version of KAM (shame!).

I believe this makes this project the second KAM keyset to be release after Starry Night. As an owner of Starry Night, I can tell you that I am a huge fan of that extremely glossy profile (glossiest keycaps on the market by far) and "the thickness of it" (/bateman). Very very big fan of KAM and those who have not tried definitively should.

Looking forward to Dec 1st! Glad to hear pricing is going to be reasonable.

By the way, KAT is nothing like KAM in terms of texture. It's very grainy and porous in comparison.
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #186 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 03:15:08 »
Nice set !
Would it be possible adding a French, aka ISO-FR, aka baguette, kit ? I guess it's dye sub so I feel free to ask.
Thanks.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #187 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 21:18:17 »
Any idea when the prices will be announced?

I have zFrontier’s Intl store pricing, but TKC and mykeyboard are still working on theirs and I’d like to wait to announce those three at the same time. Also Deskhero.ca just joined as a vendor so that pricing will come a bit later.

Nice set !
Would it be possible adding a French, aka ISO-FR, aka baguette, kit ? I guess it's dye sub so I feel free to ask.
Thanks.

Sorry but kits have been locked in and price quoted!


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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #188 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 18:41:48 »
Am I missing something or why were no novelties considered?

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #189 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 21:53:27 »
Am I missing something or why were no novelties considered?

Not a fan of novelties 🤷‍♂️
(There’s one in this set though)

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #190 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 11:04:30 »
Updates

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Beautiful renders by MetallicCharles















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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #191 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 13:51:10 »
Very affordable, looks great! Definitely in
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #192 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 15:07:04 »
Great, I'm a fan, definitely going to pick a set up! Great job!

But lol at the numpad, is that what the numbers will look like or just the render? Why didn't you increase the size like you did with the latin alphabet characters? I don't use a numpad usually but you might as well make it look good :P

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #193 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 18:58:07 »
Great, I'm a fan, definitely going to pick a set up! Great job!

But lol at the numpad, is that what the numbers will look like or just the render? Why didn't you increase the size like you did with the latin alphabet characters? I don't use a numpad usually but you might as well make it look good :P

Oh yeah will probably size those up to alphas, also swapping in proper divide and multiply glyphs before I submit the final template.

Edit: kit renders will reflect the actual look, thanks for the note!

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 18 November 2019, 19:17:38 »
Damn! With these prices and that gloss, how can I say no.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #195 on: Tue, 19 November 2019, 04:45:06 »
aaaah much better imo! now I'm wondering if the F keys should have the same size as well, 2-3 tiny characters are obviously never as lonely as 1 tiny character on the numpad but it might still look better if all alpha-colour keys that don't take up 2 lines consistently have the same font size.

a render I'd be interested in seeing would be some keyboard with 8-10 F-keys to the left of the main area. I think this set would look strong on something like this because the F-keys use only one colour.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 1st
« Reply #196 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 23:46:48 »
aaaah much better imo! now I'm wondering if the F keys should have the same size as well, 2-3 tiny characters are obviously never as lonely as 1 tiny character on the numpad but it might still look better if all alpha-colour keys that don't take up 2 lines consistently have the same font size.

a render I'd be interested in seeing would be some keyboard with 8-10 F-keys to the left of the main area. I think this set would look strong on something like this because the F-keys use only one colour.

I don't have a render with F-keys, but but those will stay small so they contrast with the rest of the alphas 😮

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 6th
« Reply #197 on: Fri, 29 November 2019, 13:06:05 »
Hey all, we're gonna push back launch a bit to Dec 6th, next Friday. Need some more time for setting up, thank you for understanding. 🙏

Also just quickly noting, the Exotic kit will have an enter key included, and estimated ship date for the set is late May 2020.

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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 6th
« Reply #198 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 04:20:21 »
Hey all, we're gonna push back launch a bit to Dec 6th, next Friday. Need some more time for setting up, thank you for understanding. 🙏

Also just quickly noting, the Exotic kit will have an enter key included, and estimated ship date for the set is late May 2020.
Could you update the kits pictures, it's offline today?
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Re: [IC] KAM Little Pilot – Group Buy Starts December 6th
« Reply #199 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 12:06:05 »
Hey all, we're gonna push back launch a bit to Dec 6th, next Friday. Need some more time for setting up, thank you for understanding. 🙏

Also just quickly noting, the Exotic kit will have an enter key included, and estimated ship date for the set is late May 2020.
Could you update the kits pictures, it's offline today?

Fixed! Will have prettier kit renders prior to launch as well ✌️